2008 NASCAR Season

[TS020]

Originally Posted by faksta

Thanks TS020!

No problem, NASCAR - Rowdy.com is also another good resource of news and such.

[Kitdy]

Carl Edwards was docked 100 points for his car not having a gas cap. He fell from 1st to 7th in standings. His crew chief was fined $100,000 as well as being suspended for 6 weeks and Roush Fenway was also docked 100 points.

$100,000 bones is a big hit to take on your paycheck. How much do crew chiefs make anyway?

[fisetdavid26]

Originally Posted by Kitdy

Carl Edwards was docked 100 points for his car not having a gas cap. He fell from 1st to 7th in standings. His crew chief was fined $100,000 as well as being suspended for 6 weeks and Roush Fenway was also docked 100 points.

$100,000 bones is a big hit to take on your paycheck. How much do crew chiefs make anyway?

I understand it's for safety regulations and blah blah blah but isn't it a bit exaggerated?

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by fisetdavid26

I understand it's for safety regulations and blah blah blah but isn't it a bit exaggerated?

TSN said it gave an aerodynamic advantage.

[magracer]

Originally Posted by Kitdy

$100,000 bones is a big hit to take on your paycheck. How much do crew chiefs make anyway?

The team will most probably cover the bill.

[TS020]

Originally Posted by Kitdy

Carl Edwards was docked 100 points for his car not having a gas cap. He fell from 1st to 7th in standings. His crew chief was fined $100,000 as well as being suspended for 6 weeks and Roush Fenway was also docked 100 points.

$100,000 bones is a big hit to take on your paycheck. How much do crew chiefs make anyway?

It was actually the cap from the dry-sump oil tank that was missing.

Originally Posted by fisetdavid26

I understand it's for safety regulations and blah blah blah but isn't it a bit exaggerated?

NASCAR doesn't bullshit around when it comes to teams trying to mess in the 'grey area' of sorts, even though that's what the series was built on, innovation.

Originally Posted by Kitdy

TSN said it gave an aerodynamic advantage.

It does, without the cover, air is sucked in through the vents in the side windows of the cars reducing aero drag and increasing speed.

Originally Posted by magracer

The team will most probably cover the bill.

Teams like Roush-Fenway draw in at least $100,000 for every car they have entered in a race (5 cars = $500,000; not including sponsorship money), it's no big deal really. The money just goes back into the point fund which will be given equally to all the drivers at season's end.

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by TS020

NASCAR doesn't bullshit around when it comes to teams trying to mess in the 'grey area' of sorts, even though that's what the series was built on, innovation.

Innovation? NASCAR?

I also read NASCAR is hesitant to actually entirely disqualify drivers unlike some other series.

[SolidStradale]

Originally Posted by TS020

Teams like Roush-Fenway draw in at least $100,000 for every car they have entered in a race (5 cars = $500,000; not including sponsorship money), it's no big deal really. The money just goes back into the point fund which will be given equally to all the drivers at season's end.

Actually, I think the fine money goes to various charitys like Victory Junction.
BTW, Robby Gordon's fine was appealed and he got his points back but his fine was bumped up to $150,000. He got the wrong nose for his Charger because of a dash in the part number. The only thing innovative in NASCAR is safety(HANS device, safer barrier,COT), thats why they still run carburated small blocks and 4 speed trannys. The car is meant to be "technologicly challenged"

[MattW]

Originally Posted by SolidStradale

Actually, I think the fine money goes to various charitys like Victory Junction.
BTW, Robby Gordon's fine was appealed and he got his points back but his fine was bumped up to $150,000. He got the wrong nose for his Charger because of a dash in the part number. The only thing innovative in NASCAR is safety(HANS device, safer barrier,COT), thats why they still run carburated small blocks and 4 speed trannys. The car is meant to be "technologicly challenged"

Therefore, making the car hard to drive, and letting the drivers earn their paychecks.

[TS020]

Originally Posted by Kitdy

Innovation? NASCAR?

I also read NASCAR is hesitant to actually entirely disqualify drivers unlike some other series.

Yes, you heard of things like this all the time back in the day, until they started to require things to be done/assembled/placed a certain way.

Crew chiefs and mechanics used to modify parts of the cars that weren't legal, but weren't defined as illegal in the rule books.

Originally Posted by SolidStradale

Actually, I think the fine money goes to various charitys like Victory Junction.

When'd this start happening? In the past fine money has always gone back into the point fund.

Originally Posted by SolidStradale

BTW, Robby Gordon's fine was appealed and he got his points back but his fine was bumped up to $150,000. He got the wrong nose for his Charger because of a dash in the part number. The only thing innovative in NASCAR is safety(HANS device, safer barrier,COT), thats why they still run carburated small blocks and 4 speed trannys. The car is meant to be "technologicly challenged"

It keeps costs down by having carborated engines and manual gear boxes, otherwise teams like Robby Gordon wouldn't be able to run full time.

[RacingManiac]

I doubt keeping the car carburated makes it any cheaper.....it is not cheap to make a 6 liter pushrod small block to rev over 10k and makes 800+bhp....the amount of testing required to tune those things are probably just as expensive as an F1 motor....which is the reason why there tend to be only a few teams that makes their own engine and everyone else buys it from them....

[TS020]

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

I doubt keeping the car carburated makes it any cheaper.....it is not cheap to make a 6 liter pushrod small block to rev over 10k and makes 800+bhp....the amount of testing required to tune those things are probably just as expensive as an F1 motor....which is the reason why there tend to be only a few teams that makes their own engine and everyone else buys it from them....

There's less money going into developing a carborated engine, no electronics to control or change like a EFI setup, it's all mechanical.

[RacingManiac]

But making it all mechanical means all "testing" comes from making specific parts. They tune each cylinder differently to compensate for the different amount of intake charge coming from the intake manifold(uneven distribution between cylinder), in a EFI car you can do this by adjusting fuel amount, in stockcar motor they make slightly different valve size and piston to compensate.....and trial and error with prototype parts is expensive....

BTW, congrats to Toyota for winning their first race...

[Kitdy]

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

BTW, congrats to Toyota for winning their first race...

I forgot to check. They won eh? That's great!

EDIT: And Kyle Busch leads the standings in a Toyota. Booyeah!

[Wang Lung]

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