Video: Porsche 911 GT3 RS Rally Special

[erni]

Hi, I made a small special of the Porsches in German Rally Championships. Enjoy the sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXfP6vT-qiU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXfP6vT-qiU

[Matra et Alpine]

Thank you
Didn't realise they were pushing the GT3s out on loose stages too

[NSXType-R]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Thank you
Didn't realise they were pushing the GT3s out on loose stages too

The Porsche GT3s ran in Pikes Peak. Before and after they paved it.

[W.R.]

So when will we see more ex-circuit racers taking to the stages? This is the best use for otherwise redundant track cars ever.

[Matra et Alpine]

Doubt these are "redundant" racers
If Britain gets road closures back on the law books then expect lots of tarmac focussed cars on our rallies too !!!
Other European countries have lots of tarmac events

There was the Aston

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yso-HwXT85M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yso-HwXT85M

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Doubt these are "redundant" racers
If Britain gets road closures back on the law books then expect lots of tarmac focussed cars on our rallies too !!!
Other European countries have lots of tarmac events

There was the Aston

Aside from Porsche and Astons, we had Ferraris as well.

Our championship is fully run on tarmac.

[Matra et Alpine]

Yeah Pikes Peak's a bit special one-off tho
National rallies are regular and less "specialist" I was thinking

[Matra et Alpine]

^^^ yeah we're stuck with the Manx and the Jim Clark as the only closed-road tarmac events in the uk

[RacingManiac]

I think the advantage of the RR layout, like traction, will probably be just as useful on the loose stuff.....

These cars do look like the Cup cars no?

[clutch-monkey]

^some of them look like simply modified road cars, but who can tell when their so close to begin with..

[NSXType-R]

Originally Posted by clutch-monkey

^some of them look like simply modified road cars, but who can tell when their so close to begin with..

Some of them seem to have headlight covers, making a 996 look more like a 997.

Broken egg headlamp 996s really don't appeal to me, so all the better.

I actually like the 997 GT3s pre mid-model change the best.

[Matra et Alpine]

NO, RM, sadly the Porsche on loose is as Porsche has always been on loose .... power-off oversteer
The Porsche layout works on tarmac because the big rears can guarantee the grip.
On loose, you lose that and so end up taking stages like a drift driver and as slowly

[Ferrer]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

NO, RM, sadly the Porsche on loose is as Porsche has always been on loose .... power-off oversteer
The Porsche layout works on tarmac because the big rears can guarantee the grip.
On loose, you lose that and so end up taking stages like a drift driver and as slowly

And ever since Audi introduced four wheel drive to rallying in 1981, the traction advantage was lost forever.

[erni]

...here is some more, older stuff of the Porsches...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFrMy-4ra2g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFrMy-4ra2g

[Commodore GS/E]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

NO, RM, sadly the Porsche on loose is as Porsche has always been on loose .... power-off oversteer
The Porsche layout works on tarmac because the big rears can guarantee the grip.
On loose, you lose that and so end up taking stages like a drift driver and as slowly

But if the RR layout is that bad on gravel, why have RR vehicles dominated rallying for that long (Simca, NSU, the Hillman Imp... I could go on)? I guess that having more weight on the driven wheels improves traction (which is why FR cars nearly disappeared from the sport). Also, Porsche has solved the "uncontrollable oversteer of death" problem now.