Ferrari F430 Challenge v.s. Hamann Ferrari F430

[Ziostilon]

So which one is better overall. Don't base your result just because one is faster and the other isn't. Please consider the following:

-Aerodynamics
-Cornering
-Horsepower
-and what else that you think is important and don't base your opinion on the looks of the car

[2ndclasscitizen]

You'll have to post up specs on the Hamann, but they are 2 different cars. One's a racing 430, the other is a 430 with an ugly bodykit.

[The_Canuck]

I think the Hamann looks good...but i need the specs

[Cotterik]

probably the challenge, because every ferrari should and most likely is perfect without the need for a second party to work on it.

[taz_rocks_miami]

I 2nd...er...3rd the motion...we need the specs.

[Rockefella]

The Hamann, only because I wouldn't be allowed to use the Challenge, unless I went to a racetrack.

[Ziostilon]

who knows which site i can get complete specs of the Hamann F430, but i got whatever i could.

Weight- 3200lbs
0-60mph- 4secs
Top Speed- 196mph
8 Cylinder
Twin Supercharged
Horsepower- 620.00 HP@ 6870.00 RPM
Torque- 464.5 Ft-Lbs @ 5340.00 RPM
HP to Weight Ratio- 5.2LB / HP
Hp to Liter- 144.2 BHP / Liter

[2ndclasscitizen]

That looks the specs for the Novitec F430, not the Hamann. Actually, it looks like weight and speed specs for the F430, then engine specs of the Novitec

[The_Canuck]

Hamann

engine 90 Degree V8
position Mid Longitudinal
aspiration Natural
valvetrain DOHC, 4 Valves per Cyl w/Variable Timing, Variable Intake Tract
fuel feed Electronic Sequential Injection
displacement 4308 cc / 262.9 cu in
bore 92 mm / 3.62 in
stroke 81 mm / 3.19 in
compression 11.3:1
power 396.0 kw / 531 bhp @ 8500 rpm
hp per litre 123.26 bhp per litre
bhp/weight 366.21 bhp per tonne
redline 8500
drive wheels RWD w/E-Diff, CST
body / frame Aluminum Monocoque
front brakes Carbon-Ceramic Discs w/6-Piston Calipers, ABS, EBD
f brake size 380 mm / 15.0 in
rear brakes Carbon-Ceramic Discs w/4-Piston Calipers, ABS, EBD
r brake size 350 mm / 13.8 in
front wheels F 48.3 x 19.0 cm / 19 x 7.5 in
rear wheels R 48.3 x 25.4 cm / 19 x 10 in
front tire size 225/35ZR19
rear tire size 285/35ZR19
steering Rack & Pinion
f suspension A-Arms w/Coil Springs, Electric Adj Tube Shocks, Anti-Roll Bar
r suspension A-Arms w/Coil Springs, Electric Adj Tube Shocks, Anti-Roll Bar
wheelbase 2600 mm / 102.4 in
front track 1669 mm / 65.7 in
rear track 1616 mm / 63.6 in
length 4512 mm / 177.6 in
width 1923 mm / 75.7 in
height 1214 mm / 47.8 in
transmission Manual or F1 Paddle Shift
gear ratios 3.29:1, 2.16:1, 1.61:1, 1.27:1, 1.03:1, 0.82:1
final drive 4.30:1

[taz_rocks_miami]

Originally Posted by The_Canuck

Hamann

engine 90 Degree V8
position Mid Longitudinal
aspiration Natural
valvetrain DOHC, 4 Valves per Cyl w/Variable Timing, Variable Intake Tract
fuel feed Electronic Sequential Injection
displacement 4308 cc / 262.9 cu in
bore 92 mm / 3.62 in
stroke 81 mm / 3.19 in
compression 11.3:1
power 396.0 kw / 531 bhp @ 8500 rpm
hp per litre 123.26 bhp per litre
bhp/weight 366.21 bhp per tonne
redline 8500
drive wheels RWD w/E-Diff, CST
body / frame Aluminum Monocoque
front brakes Carbon-Ceramic Discs w/6-Piston Calipers, ABS, EBD
f brake size 380 mm / 15.0 in
rear brakes Carbon-Ceramic Discs w/4-Piston Calipers, ABS, EBD
r brake size 350 mm / 13.8 in
front wheels F 48.3 x 19.0 cm / 19 x 7.5 in
rear wheels R 48.3 x 25.4 cm / 19 x 10 in
front tire size 225/35ZR19
rear tire size 285/35ZR19
steering Rack & Pinion
f suspension A-Arms w/Coil Springs, Electric Adj Tube Shocks, Anti-Roll Bar
r suspension A-Arms w/Coil Springs, Electric Adj Tube Shocks, Anti-Roll Bar
wheelbase 2600 mm / 102.4 in
front track 1669 mm / 65.7 in
rear track 1616 mm / 63.6 in
length 4512 mm / 177.6 in
width 1923 mm / 75.7 in
height 1214 mm / 47.8 in
transmission Manual or F1 Paddle Shift
gear ratios 3.29:1, 2.16:1, 1.61:1, 1.27:1, 1.03:1, 0.82:1
final drive 4.30:1

Wow, you didn't happen to find out how much paint they used by any chance??

[:Exige:]

Ferrari F430 Challenge ... there should be no question about it.

[MrKipling]

I do wish people would stop comparing road and race cars! It just doesn't make any sense.

It's like these FXX vs Bugatti Veyron threads, of which we seem to have had about a million, aside from anything one has slick tyres - that makes rather a large difference.

[The_Canuck]

Originally Posted by taz_rocks_miami

Wow, you didn't happen to find out how much paint they used by any chance??

3.546 litres

Lol jk i googled the specs

[The_Canuck]

Originally Posted by MrKipling

I do wish people would stop comparing road and race cars! It just doesn't make any sense.

It's like these FXX vs Bugatti Veyron threads, of which we seem to have had about a million, aside from anything one has slick tyres - that makes rather a large difference.

I think he really meant the challenge stradale...

[Rockefella]

Originally Posted by The_Canuck

I think he really meant the challenge stradale...

Well, he said the Ferrari F430 Challenge, which is a real car after-all. Plus, the Stradale doesn't exist, yet.