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Old 09-23-2008, 01:03 AM
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... more torque coming?
yep
and one more turbo...
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:04 AM
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yep
and one more turbo...
Will Wouter be allowed to drive it?

I'm unsure about his actual capabilities to drive a car. We all know for a fact he can take good pictures of them but... drive them? I want footage!
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:07 AM
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Maybe you could let Drakkie do it. He could recharge the AC for maximum off-the-line grip.
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:08 AM
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Maybe you could let Drakkie do it. He could recharge the AC for maximum off-the-line grip.
He has yet to explain where the missing power from his tune-up on the Alto went though.
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:09 AM
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Maybe you could let Drakkie do it. He could recharge the AC for maximum off-the-line grip.
Nah, let's leave his godly powers out of this mere mortal discussion.
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He has yet to explain where the missing power from his tune-up on the Alto went though
Into the second V8 that was powering the shift linkage.
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Will Wouter be allowed to drive it?

I'm unsure about his actual capabilities to drive a car. We all know for a fact he can take good pictures of them but... drive them? I want footage!
I assumed that Oliver Stone movie "W" was going to be about Wouter, I was sorely dissapointed to see the previews.


Anyway. Its past mah bedtime in GMT -7 land, so 'night.
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As for the first part, it was a joke, I thought you were joking for a minute but I guess not.

And as for the second, is diesel's specific torque greater on average than gasoline if one considers naturally aspirated engines only? An interesting question... then again, I don't think people that buy diesels are often motivated by how they perform, rather, how cost effective they are.
In Europe we buy diesel for both reasons, BMWs 20d, 6l/100km and 177bhp when needed, 35d with almost 300bhp, VAGs 2.0TDI 140/170bhp used for all the ranges it will soon be used in the Audi TT and is used currently in the Seat Ibiza and Leon FR versions.
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Winner is Torque.. Just happens to have a L67 under it's bonnet.

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Old 09-23-2008, 03:25 AM
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In Europe we buy diesel for both reasons, BMWs 20d, 6l/100km and 177bhp when needed, 35d with almost 300bhp, VAGs 2.0TDI 140/170bhp used for all the ranges it will soon be used in the Audi TT and is used currently in the Seat Ibiza and Leon FR versions.
My BMW has 300Nm. A fine car and you can have a good time in the twsities.

The Mini had 220Nm. An absolute hoot to drive.

Torque alone means nothing.
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Old 09-23-2008, 04:41 AM
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Electric motors produce 100% of their torque regardless of RPM, i.e., linear power delivery.

Given correct discharge controls, an electric motor of horsepower equal to an internal combustion engine will produce more useful torque under any load condition.

Win. Provided the battery packs last.
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lol, i'm getting pretty good at converting HP to KW .....but torque is harder lol
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For the record i cannot convert nm to lbft
lol, the conversions are basically the inverse of each other. 1HP=~.75kW and 1Nm=~0.75lbs/ft.

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I have always been acustomed to torque in lbft and power in hp being about the same in engines of moderateish tune. There is something very inherently pleasing about a Corvette's engine making ~400hp and ~400lbft, I don't kno what it is. and any car that has 400 kw and 400 nm actually has, in my head, an utterly unbalanced 535hp and 300lbft.
The equivalent in metric is to have the torque number close to double that of the power. 300kw/600nm for instance is 402hp and 450lbs/ft.
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:28 AM
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I like a car with more torques than powers. This provides greatest accelerations and velocities.
power: torque X rpm, now can you tell me how is responsible for acceleration and velocities?!

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My BMW has 300Nm. A fine car and you can have a good time in the twsities.

The Mini had 220Nm. An absolute hoot to drive.

Torque alone means nothing.
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Electric motors produce 100% of their torque regardless of RPM, i.e., linear power delivery.

Given correct discharge controls, an electric motor of horsepower equal to an internal combustion engine will produce more useful torque under any load condition.

Win. Provided the battery packs last.
electric engines have tons of torque: is any kind of electric car really fun to drive? no
beside fuel economy (and different prices), who is going to buy a Tesla and not an Exige/Elise? no one.

torque doesn't win. lightweight owns everything.

if torque wins, buy this, the yellow one of course

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my beautiful VQ35DE puts out equal torque and horsepower in SI
260 fl/lbs and 260 horsepower
and when she gets to peak torque she sings a melodious tune. and when she gest to peak horsepower she screams to get out of her way!
low end torque is the best by far!
BMW I6 turbo's have loads of it! (i want one)
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Old 09-23-2008, 06:35 AM
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my beautiful VQ35DE puts out equal torque and horsepower in SI
260 fl/lbs and 260 horsepower
That, sir, is not in SI.....
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