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    Quote Originally Posted by pimento View Post
    Apparently after the #2 car had its incident there was a radio call for the Audis to just retain positions and cruise, but that may have just been conjecture I read somewhere.
    Nope, that was the case. Dr Ulrich left it very clear in the subsequent interviews. Up until then they could race for the victory, after the crash the instructions were to bring the cars home safely and in one piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post

    I wouldn't call the Corvettes an armada, there were 2, there were way more Ferraris, if they stop taking out P1 cars....
    there were four, two from the US and two from the Larbre Competition, they won the GTE/AM class.
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    2 of the new one was what i meant...they are as numerous as any car in the class barring Aston.....
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    But they were the only proper works team aside from the lonely Aston, weren't they?
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    I don't see that being any more of an advantage...the class is performance balanced. Ferrari ran to a different aero rule to the rest for an entire season last year. BMW are given breaks in ALMS all the time, and Corvette is running an engine that had to be downsized from production while Porsche has a bigger motor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    But they were the only proper works team aside from the lonely Aston, weren't they?
    AF Corse is the ghost works team.
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    And the Flying Lizard and Felbermayer are the semi-official Porsches, aren't they?

    Anyway, they are not fully factory-backed entries, if there's any difference that is...
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    If it looks like a duck, and quack like a duck....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    And the Flying Lizard and Felbermayer are the semi-official Porsches, aren't they?

    Anyway, they are not fully factory-backed entries, if there's any difference that is...
    Their drivers are on the Porsche payroll, so they are de-facto works cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wouter Melissen View Post
    Their drivers are on the Porsche payroll, so they are de-facto works cars.
    But the Flying Lizard Porsche was in the GTE Am class, wasn't it? If they were Porsche they should've been in the GTE Pro class, shouldn't they? (Unless two of the Porsche drivers had no racing experience whatsoever).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    But the Flying Lizard Porsche was in the GTE Am class, wasn't it? If they were Porsche they should've been in the GTE Pro class, shouldn't they? (Unless two of the Porsche drivers had no racing experience whatsoever).
    Flying Lizard had both a Pro and Am car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RacingManiac View Post
    The fact that the Rebellion had pretty much a faultless race, and was still 11 laps down shows how much faster factory cars are....SPEED broadcast did mention they were surprised by Toyota's speed, since they thought diesel would still be much faster....this just plainly proves Henri was full of sh°t....
    Each year the diesels have gradually been pegged back, so you can not say Henri was full of sh*t per se. Judging from the times, the ACO have finally found a balance.
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    IMO he was full of it....as far back as 2007, when the LMP2 FACTORY gas car(RS Spyder and Acura ARXs) were running head to head with R10 in ALMS despite the power deficit, it was showing that with enough development gas car can be competitive. No one has a competitive DI engine on offering for petrol, yet such engine did exist in R8, and also in RS Spyder. The current Toyota we still don't know if it is Direct injection, and even then the race pace could very well match the Audi, and this was a first year program. Looking at the difference between eTron and Ultra, its not hard to see that while hybrid provides some pace, its not nearly as much as you think, and Toyota is already on pace with R18. If the whole time there was a legitimate petrol competitor, I doubt ACO would have been pegging the diesel back as much as they did....
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    Quote Originally Posted by faksta View Post
    every time Buemi got the lead people at the big monitors on the track were applauding and yelling. Lotterer was getting his position back in a complete silence.
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