Car Identity

[DasModell]

i need help identifying the second car .. the pic is rather small but if anybody can help

[Matra et Alpine]

i need help identifying the second car .. the pic is rather small but if anybody can help

Do you have any idea on where or when it was taken ?

[UK CARS]

i think the first one is a buggati
the second one's double back wheels is odd, havent seen that before.....i dont know that much on pre 50's cars.

[Matra et Alpine]

i think the first one is a buggati
the second one's double back wheels is odd, havent seen that before.....i dont know that much on pre 50's cars.

As speeds climbed in the early days of racing the biggest problem was keeping the early tyres on the rims and getting enough grip from them.
At various times everybody played with twin rear wheels to get more rubb, more grip and safer racing. Knowing where the photowas taken will help reuce the huge list of possibilities to consider looking for that distinctive rounded body shape - again much copied

[DasModell]

the location and date doesn't help that much . it is said that the photo was taken in Romania more exact . in Brasov (city) . in the early 1950's . more i don't know

[UK CARS]

As speeds climbed in the early days of racing the biggest problem was keeping the early tyres on the rims and getting enough grip from them.
At various times everybody played with twin rear wheels to get more rubb, more grip and safer racing. Knowing where the photowas taken will help reuce the huge list of possibilities to consider looking for that distinctive rounded body shape - again much copied

oh rearly! thanks for that bit of info

[DasModell]

my instinct says it a french car .. but i've seen this rounded shape .. in Mercedes cars and also Bugatti too . but these cars are 20's cars . i don;t think somebody would have raced it in the 50's

[eyebrows]

what about an alfa?

[henk4]

I really can't imagine that somebody would race a prewar bugatti in the early fifties and certainly not in Romania. Motor racing was not very popular in the post war communist countries. But if it is indeed in romania, than I would suggest it's a one off special that may have just been lapped again by the bug.

[DasModell]

pre war it looks like there was even a Bucharest GP in 1937,38,39.. so the thing i'm really not sure . is the date . i would think it could be something around those years ..
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1937.html#9
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1938.html#20
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1939.html#15

[henk4]

pre war it looks like there was even a Bucharest GP in 1937,38,39.. so the thing i'm really not sure . is the date . i would think it could be something around those years ..
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1937.html#9
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1938.html#20
http://wsrp.wz.cz/prewar1939.html#15

That was what I was trying to say, your picture is distinctly older than the fifties, and could actually be taken in the mid ro late twenties. The Bucharest GP was obviously for two seaters, as the BMW 328 won all the time. But to be honest I have no clue about the car.

[DasModell]

I found some info
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/4582/sport.htm .
so it was 1934

[DasModell]

it had to be Calcianu . cause i know he worked for Bugatti .. . now that we got the year . it remains to find the car

[henk4]

it had to be Calcianu . cause i know he worked for Bugatti .. . now that we got the year . it remains to find the car

There must be a starting grid somewhere, but I would not be surprised if it a locally built special;

[DasModell]

new Info .. it looks like there have been a GP of Brasov in 1936 too .. and found that a ford V8(Cristea) classified after a Bugatti(Carp) and a Duessenberg(J.Calcianu) .. and if this is the race in the picture . it could be a Duessy ..