View Poll Results: What car will win the 2008 Wheels Car of the Year

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  • Audi A4

    10 22.22%
  • BMW 1-series Coupe

    3 6.67%
  • Ford Falcon FG

    15 33.33%
  • Honda Accord

    0 0%
  • Honda Accord Euro

    2 4.44%
  • Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X

    1 2.22%
  • Jaguar XF

    5 11.11%
  • Mazda6

    3 6.67%
  • Volkswagen Tiguen

    1 2.22%
  • Mercedes-Benz C63

    2 4.44%
  • Honda Jazz

    3 6.67%
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Thread: 2008 Wheels Car of the Year - what car will win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruim20 View Post
    Did the C5 tested have Hidromatic suspension or regular one?
    I think they had a 2.7 version and that comes only with Hydro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post

    As for the C5 it seems like Citroën tried to be German wihtout leaving it frenchness behind and failed at both.
    utter nonsense
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    I think they had a 2.7 version and that comes only with Hydro.
    Then i have no ideia how they could have said it didn't cope with the roads, that's the point of hidro suspension, to be confortable in any road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    utter nonsense
    Ads, caring for the handling and non-hydropneumatic suspension available point otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Ads, caring for the handling and non-hydropneumatic suspension available point otherwise.
    ads?
    caring for handling?
    non hydro is a pure cost element.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    ads?
    caring for handling?
    non hydro is a pure cost element.
    Haven't you seen the C5 ads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    I had not seen it before, but I do remember that ages ago when the car was not even officially presented we saw one on the road and I thought it was an Audi....so no "fail" there.....
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    I'm going to have to say the XF. Although I do prefer other cars like the C63, 1-series and the EVO, a COTY has to be practical, reliable and provide good value. I can say from experience that my mum has an XF and they are just great all round cars, look amazing too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    Ads, caring for the handling and non-hydropneumatic suspension available point otherwise.
    if you can read German, here is a test of a Volvo, BMW and C6. Contrary to what you would expect, the C6 was faster through a slalom than the BMW, maybe Citroen already did care about handling earlier...

    BMW 525d, Volvo S80 D5, Citroën C6 HDi: Kontrast-Mitte | auto motor und sport

    here is a link to an AMS test of the C5HDIV6
    I have taken out the judgment on ride quality...the only negative point is the turning circle, but Australia is roomy enough to not take that as a serious minus point I would say.

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    + stabiler Geradeauslauf (stable in a straight line)
    + gutes Handling
    + geringe Karosseriebewegungen (few body movements)
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    In short I can only qualify the Wheels judgment as blatantly incorrect, and a disgrace for the Australian automotive press, if they are indeed as MSN said the largest publication around.
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    No I can't read german I'm afaird.

    Well done Citroën.

    (I've always liked the C6 anyway, handling or not)
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post

    In short I can only qualify the Wheels judgment as blatantly incorrect, and a disgrace for the Australian automotive press, if they are indeed as MSN said the largest publication around.
    Blatant fanboyism is blatant.

    Carey is a qualified and respected automotive journalist. you don't have to like his opinions, but this is honestly the most sour puss response I've ever seen.

    You know very little of the road conditions in Australia, and it's entirely plausible, and indeed possible, that the vehicle did not perform to expectations.

    Furthermore, the vehicle obviously did not leave a good enough impression on Mr McCarthy, another well respected automotive journalist in Australia, to warrant further inclusion in this test.

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    Well said IB4R - I must say that I thought that the C5 had a good ride but am very unequipped to comment.

    You must consider that henk is the premier auto expert in all The Netherlands and possibly the World and all dissenting views are invalid - funny though, as I would say he's what probably would be described as liberal and liberals are meant to accept other's opinions.

    Curious.

    Anyways, tension and argument add to the fun of UCP!

    This was the classiest of the comment: "Blatant fanboyism is blatant."

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBrake4Rainbows View Post
    Blatant fanboyism is blatant.

    Carey is a qualified and respected automotive journalist.
    who credits a car as having an "electric" steering, which it has not....
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    Where on the spec sheet does it indicate it doesnt?
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    At this point the Falcon leads polling.

    What I wonder is are people voting for what they want to win or what they think will win - the poll asks for what will win not what's your favourite.

    Is the Falcon really that good or are people cosing it because they think patriotism (coupled with bribery maybe?) will give it the edge in the test?

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