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    every detail on the the rear looks different. They have 4 wheels in common though...
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    It's now been leaked completely.

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    I'm not sure. It's a bit ungainly, especially at the front. The profile isn't bad though.
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    By the way, in 1 hour it will be official.
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    Quote Originally Posted by henk4 View Post
    every detail on the the rear looks different. They have 4 wheels in common though...
    I imagined this was coming. Eh, maybe it reminds me more of the rear of the refreshed Sonata and the Optima.

    That isn't necessarily a bad thing.

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    http://jalopnik.com/this-map-shows-y...net-1714269509

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    Yes! Finally the south of Europe is good at something.
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    From what I heard, the 911 is going turbo for the base 911s now. Does that mean the GT3 is going to be endangered, or is that an exception to the rule?

    I kind of liked having the NA GTS around, as the GT3 had gone PDK.

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    I think that the idea is that the GT models will remain N/A (don't know if that includes the GTS) and the rest will go turbo.
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    If lesser 911 models are now with twin turbochargers, what will happen to 911 Turbo and its position in the 911 lineup?

    Not so special anymore, is it?

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    The name Turbo will see the same devaluation the name Carrera suffered in 1989.

    No that this matters to the average 911 owners as they do not know what's under the bonnet. Or under which one for that matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    I think that the idea is that the GT models will remain N/A (don't know if that includes the GTS) and the rest will go turbo.
    I hope that's true, as that was the most powerful 911 you could get with a manual and a N/A engine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Revo View Post
    If lesser 911 models are now with twin turbochargers, what will happen to 911 Turbo and its position in the 911 lineup?

    Not so special anymore, is it?
    I didn't think about that either!

    Maybe they will add a BIG 911 Turbo badge and a LITTLE 911 Turbo badge to the rear to differentiate the two.

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    Sniff's got you covered.

    Realistically, the badges won't change, the Turbo will just keep a higher capacity engine with more boost (it'll be 0.8 for Carrera, 1.1 for Carrera S and 1.2 for Turbo, with the turbo retaining the extra 800ccs). I too would like to see the GTS badge kept NA for some options, but who knows. As for the GT3 I get the feeling that the GT department has heard the criticism, experimented with the GT4 and saw that it was good. Personally I feel that the GT3 should have the option of manual or PDK and then keep the GT3 RS with PDK only because it's the superfast one. Hopefully (and I am hopeful there) they agree with that.

    Anyone taking bets on them lopping a couple of cyls off for a 2.0TT for the Boxter? Or the oft-rumoured baby model?
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    The Boxster will indeed get a flat four turbo engine with the mid-cycle refresh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pimento View Post
    Sniff's got you covered.

    Realistically, the badges won't change, the Turbo will just keep a higher capacity engine with more boost (it'll be 0.8 for Carrera, 1.1 for Carrera S and 1.2 for Turbo, with the turbo retaining the extra 800ccs). I too would like to see the GTS badge kept NA for some options, but who knows. As for the GT3 I get the feeling that the GT department has heard the criticism, experimented with the GT4 and saw that it was good. Personally I feel that the GT3 should have the option of manual or PDK and then keep the GT3 RS with PDK only because it's the superfast one. Hopefully (and I am hopeful there) they agree with that.

    Anyone taking bets on them lopping a couple of cyls off for a 2.0TT for the Boxter? Or the oft-rumoured baby model?
    That's so retro... a 4 cylinder 911. Oh wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrer View Post
    The Boxster will indeed get a flat four turbo engine with the mid-cycle refresh.
    I'd love for the Boxter S model to get a chip detuned 3.0TT from the Carrera (S?) so folk will just swap the chip out and get proper power.

    In fact, I wonder just how different the internals will be between Carrera and Carrera S...
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