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    holdens target buyer for the irs holden ute isnt the typical tradesman, its the people who'd go out and buy a hilux cab chassis, stick a fox decal on the rear winscreen and 17" rims and crome exhaust tip. holden even consider it a sports car

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    If an SS sedan is a sports car then so is a SS ute. Just lighter and cheaper. Must admit utes dont do much for me though.
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    Egg Nogg 02-04-2005, 05:07 AM

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    utes are hardly lighter than their sedan equivalents these days.

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    How much does a back seat, two doors and a couple of windows weigh. Not totally insignificant.
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    Egg Nogg 02-04-2005, 05:07 AM

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    how about the extra wheelbase and structural strength in utes. all the things lost from the sedan are just counteracted with the length and estra strengthening of the ute

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    Need specs to settle this.
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    Egg Nogg 02-04-2005, 05:07 AM

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    falcon xl styleside box standard suspensioin: 1680kg
    falcon xt sedan: 1672kg

    holden commodore ute: 1478kg
    holden commodore executive: 1526kg

    falcon xr6 turbo styleside box: 1755kg
    falcon xr8 styleside box: 1800kg
    falcon xr6 turbo sedan: 1732
    falcon xr8 sedan: 1795kg

    holden commodore ss ute: 1560kg
    holden commodore ss sedan: 1627kg

    source: wheels magazine

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    Well done. Its an intersting insight into design of both camps. Fords utes are uniformly heavier than the sedans where the opposite is true for Holdens. Do the Faclon utes run independant rear suspension?
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    Egg Nogg 02-04-2005, 05:07 AM

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    nope, unlike holden they wanted them to be known as a workhorse not a 2 door, big boot sports car

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    the falcon utes are probably so close to their sedan equivalents weight because of its hybrid chassis design underneath all the ute models where the cabin is monocoque and the back is seperate box section chassis

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    Why are the Falcon Utes so heavy for? is there a reason behind that?

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    cause of how strong the body is

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    The Ford chassis is much, much more advanced than the Holden equivalent, and is far stronger, which is why it weighs more. The Holden one tonner ute in SS guise weighs 1520 kg, continuing the trend that Crisis notes, that the Utes in the Holden range are lighter than the sedans, but the gap is much smaller.

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    holden dont make an ss one tonner, they only make a one tonner and one tonner s

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    They may be strong but if they run into an older falcon or charger theyll be stuffed

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