View Poll Results: Which hatch will it be?

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  • Alfa-Romeo 147 GTA

    4 10.26%
  • Audi A3 3.2 Quattro

    6 15.38%
  • Renault Clio Sport 3.0 V6

    13 33.33%
  • Renault Sport Megane

    2 5.13%
  • Volkswagen Golf GTI

    4 10.26%
  • BMW 130i

    3 7.69%
  • Ford Focus ST

    2 5.13%
  • Opel Astra OPC

    1 2.56%
  • Other...

    4 10.26%
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Thread: Battle of the hatches

  1. #1
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    Battle of the hatches

    Looooong list:

    Alfa 147 GTA


    Engine 60º V 6
    Engine Location Front , transversely mounted
    Displacement 3.179 liter / 194 cu in
    Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
    Fuel feed Bosch Motronic ME 7.3.1 Fuel injection
    Aspiration Naturally Aspirated
    Gearbox 6 speed Manual
    Drive Front wheel drive
    Power 250 bhp / 187 KW @ 6200 rpm
    Torque 300 Nm / 221 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm
    BHP/Liter 79 bhp / liter
    Power to weight ratio 0.18 bhp / kg
    Top Speed 246 km/h / 153 mph
    0-60 mph Acceleration 6.3s


    Audi A3 3.2 Quattro



    Engine 15º V 6
    Engine Location Front , transversely mounted
    Displacement 3.189 liter / 194.6 cu in
    Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
    Fuel feed Fuel injection
    Aspiration Naturally Aspirated
    Gearbox DSG 6 speed Automatic
    Drive Quattro All wheel drive
    Power 250 bhp / 187 KW @ 6300 rpm
    Torque 320 Nm / 236 ft lbs @ 2500 rpm
    BHP/Liter 78 bhp / liter
    Power to weight ratio 0.16 bhp / kg
    Top Speed 250 km/h / 155 mph (limited)
    0-60 mph Acceleration 6.3 s


    Renault Sport Megane



    Engine Inline 4
    Engine Location Front , transversely mounted
    Displacement 1.998 liter
    Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
    Fuel feed Fuel injection
    Aspiration Turbocharged
    Gearbox 6 speed Manual
    Drive Front Wheel Drive
    Power 225 bhp / 167 KW @ 5500 rpm
    Torque 300 Nm @ 3000 rpm
    BHP/Liter 112.5 bhp / liter
    Power to weight ratio NA
    Top Speed 240 km/h est.
    0-60 mph Acceleration 6.6 s est.


    Opel Astra OPC



    Engine Ecotec Straight 4
    Engine Location Front , transversely mounted
    Displacement 1.998 liter / 121.9 cu in
    Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
    Fuel feed Fuel injection
    Aspiration Turbo
    Gearbox 6 speed Manual
    Drive Front wheel drive
    Power 240 bhp / 179 KW
    Torque 320 Nm / 236 ft lbs
    BHP/Liter 120 bhp / liter
    Power to weight ratio N/A
    Top Speed 240 km/h / 149 mph
    0-60 mph Acceleration 6.8 s


    VolksWagen Golf GTI



    Engine Straight 4
    Engine Location Front , transversely mounted
    Displacement 2.000 liter / 122 cu in
    Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
    Fuel feed Direct Fuel injection
    Aspiration Turbo
    Gearbox 6 speed Manual
    Drive Front wheel drive
    Power 200 bhp / 149 KW
    Torque 280 Nm / 207 ft lbs
    BHP/Liter 100 bhp / liter
    Power to weight ratio N/A
    Top Speed 235 km/h / 146 mph
    0-60 mph Acceleration 7.0 s


    Renault Clio Sport



    Engine L7X 60º V 6
    Engine Location Mid , transversely mounted
    Displacement 2.946 liter / 179.8 cu in
    Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
    Fuel feed Bosch Motronic ME 7.4 Fuel injection
    Aspiration Naturally Aspirated
    Gearbox PK6 6 speed Manual
    Drive Rear wheel drive
    Power 255 bhp / 190 KW @ 7150 rpm
    Torque 300 Nm / 221 ft lbs @ 4650 rpm
    BHP/Liter 87 bhp / liter
    Power to weight ratio N/A
    Top Speed 235 km/h / 146 mph
    0-60 mph Acceleration 6.3 s


    BMW 130i M Sport



    Engine Straight 6
    Engine Location Front , longitudinally mounted
    Displacement 2.996 liter / 182.8 cu in
    Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
    Fuel feed Fuel injection
    Aspiration Naturally Aspirated
    Gearbox 6 speed Manual
    Drive Rear wheel drive
    Power 265 bhp / 198 KW
    Torque 315 Nm / 232 ft lbs
    BHP/Liter 88 bhp / liter
    Power to weight ratio N/A
    Top Speed 250 km/h / 155 mph (limited)
    0-60 mph Acceleration 5.9s est.


    Ford Focus ST



    Engine Straight 5
    Engine Location Front , transversely mounted
    Displacement 2.500 liter / 152.6 cu in
    Valvetrain 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
    Fuel feed Fuel injection
    Aspiration Naturally Aspirated
    Gearbox 6 speed Manual
    Drive Front wheel drive
    Power 220 bhp / 164 KW @ 5000rpm est.
    Torque 320N.m. @ 1500rpm est.
    BHP/Liter 88 bhp / liter
    Power to weight ratio N/A
    Top Speed 235km/h est.
    0-60 mph Acceleration 6.5s est.

  2. #2
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    the Clio V6, unless what you say about the 1series is correct...
    Don't bother me, I'm probably working while posting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHEESE-TACULAR
    the Clio V6, unless what you say about the 1series is correct...

    Yeah, I pretty much took a guess with the acceleration based on the 210kW E36 M3's 5.5s time.

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    quite a tough choice. I'll take the VW GTi for its sportiness and looks.

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    Very tough choice. Between the Clio, Alfa and Audi.
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    1. The audi, just great for every day driving
    2. The VW, I like the looks and it seems to be a great drive too and its practical
    3. The Clio, I would kill myself in that but it would still be fun
    4. The BMW 1 series lets me down on looks a bit, and its a bit less spacey as the VW and Audi but should be more fun to drive...

    5. The rest, because I dont want any of those, altho I liked the old focus rs but the new looks have ruined it all.

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    until i see what that BMW can do, im all for the VW, the daddy

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    Clio.... not practical.. but definitly fun and nice looking...

    rearseats are overated... hehehe..

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    Alfa with black exterior pain and red or yellow interior is very very hot.
    Audi out is big...but inside is very small
    Ford is....is....bho i don't know, but not cool like VW or Alfa.

    I hope for Alfa...looks so cool

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    In the Dutch market the real competition is between the Megane, the Golf and the Astra (Focus ST is not available). All three cost around 32000 Euro. The Alfa is already 40000, while the Audi is 43000 (the cheapest version). The Clio does not belong here, as it is mid-engined. The price for the BMW is not yet known, but I guess it will be on par with the Audi.

    My choice would be the Megane, in spite of its strange shape.
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    The Alfa- desirable, amazing engine, cool looker, I love them to bits I wouldn't vote BMW on pure principle.

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    does everyone know that once the new clio is introduced they are cancelling production of the Clio V6? they claim that the 'sport' clio FWD is 'fast enough' so they arent making a new clio v6...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotterik
    does everyone know that once the new clio is introduced they are cancelling production of the Clio V6? they claim that the 'sport' clio FWD is 'fast enough' so they arent making a new clio v6...
    If it releases the Dieppe "Alpine" factory to make a "real" sportscar I wont' complain
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    In Mexico's market the Audi 3.2 V6 is the top dog, Alfa just sells the 150 HP 147s here and the Clio V6 is not available, even though the 183 HP Clio sport is

    I'm not crazy about the BMW's looks and I'm not sure if the Sport Megane is sold here, I'll have to check on that; the 2 door Megane is quite atractive IMO.

    Ford Focus ST, not sold here. Same for the Opel Astra OPC. VolksWagen Golf GTI, I'd rather have the Audi.
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    Like any sane person I'd crawl over all the others to get to one of those V6 Clios

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