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GT4: Project 10.

Sebring was over, F1 was 3 hours away. What was I to do? Pop in GT4, that's what. But racing wasn't curing my boredom. I needed a goal. Build a 10 second car. I owed Vin Diesel one.
So to stay true to my roots, I picked up a stock, no mileage 71 Dodge Charger 426 Hemi.

All runs were with AMS/TCS off unless otherwise noted.

Base run
0-60mph: 6.3
0-100mph: 12.5
1/4mile: 14.568

Exhaust + Chip
0-60mph: 5.8
0-100mph: 11.6
1/4mile: 14.012
*Traction problems start

Clutch + Flywheel + Driveshaft
0-60mph: 5.8
0-100mph: 11.0
1/4mile: 13.927

Soft Racing Slicks
0-60mph: 4.4
0-100mph: 9.6
1/4mile: 12.622
*Traction problems solved

Weight Reduction Stage 1 + 2 (1564Kg)
0-60mph: 3.7
0-100mph: 8.4
1/4mile: 11.956

Port Polish + Blueprint/Balanced Block + Wt Stage 3 (1528Kg)
0-60mph: 3.8
0-100mph: 8.1
1/4mile: 11.977
*Traction problems back, probably due to no weight on rear tires

Racing Transmission
0-60mph: 3.6
0-100mph: 8.2
1/4mile: 11.808
*Traction problems gone, probably due to longer gears

Nitrous (50 shot)
0-60mph: 3.6
0-100mph: 6.9
1/4mile: 11.193
*Traction problems back in 1st and 2nd

Supercharger
0-60mph: 4.3
0-100mph: 7.5
1/4mile: 11.636
*Traction problems until 5th gear, which was basically the whole strip

TCS level 4
0-60mph: 3.4
0-100mph: 6.0
1/4mile: 10.456
*No more traction problems. This also let me spray nitrous the whole way, which helped a LOT in trap speeds.

LSD
0-60mph: 3.4
0-100mph: 6.1
1/4mile: 10.455

2.910 Final Drive
0-60mph: 3.3
0-100mph: 5.7
1/4mile: 10.352

Then it started getting really interesting. I bought the racing suspension, and took all the camber and toe out of it. Then I tried different combinations of shock/spring rates, which seemed to have little to no effect at all. So back to the gears it was.

I raised the final drive from 2.91 to 4.100 again, set the Auto setting to 25, and dragged the gears down individually. From there it was just making little changes. The racing box is a 6 speed, but I ended up running it as a 4 speed for the 1/4. I was losing too much time running it as a 5 speed.

The final transmission setup was
1st: 1.863
2nd: 1.175
3rd: 0.825
4th: 0.645
Final: 4.100

Best run
0-60: 3.0
0-100: 5.666
0-125: 7.316
0-150: 9.633
1/4mile: 10.218 @154mph

..............Base.............Final
Wt..........1841Kg..........1528Kg
Hp@RPM...425@5000.....763@5000
Tq@RPM...480@4000.....901@4000

I was hoping to build a sub-ten second car in this Charger, but after an hour of tinkering with suspension and gears, I just don't think it's possible. Still, to take 4.35 seconds off a quarter mile is pretty impressive. I've got 2 pages of notes for future projects. I think my next project is going to be a 10 second AWD car- STI, Skyline or VW R32.
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Unread 03-19-2005, 10:53 PM
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Wow, props on the tenacity. As a GT series fanatic, it's nice to see someone else that loves getting as deep into the details of the game as possible. Maybe soon I'll be able to say I beat your time
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nicely done quiggs.

mental rep heading your way.
great effort.
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is there a way to revert a car to stock? im going ot do those tests to my m3 csl
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is there a way to revert a car to stock? im going ot do those tests to my m3 csl
You can take off everything except weight reductions, port polishing, and engine balancing in the Settings menu before a race.
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You can take off everything except weight reductions, port polishing, and engine balancing in the Settings menu before a race.
damn
can i buy a new csl and put all the mods one by one onto it from my other csl?


i only have about 700,000 credits and im saving for an R8
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If you've got 2 memory cars, go to the PS2 browser and copy your game over. Then just mess with one of them for fun and use the other for your career progress.
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i have two memory cards, but i think ill just not do the tests
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wow supernice figures there quiggs. I may try that with a superbird. BTW have you bought the R32 from the tune shop? Wondering why the engine cant be modded. only the turbo.
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wow supernice figures there quiggs. I may try that with a superbird. BTW have you bought the R32 from the tune shop? Wondering why the engine cant be modded. only the turbo.
The HPA R32 is a twin turbo car. It's already built to the balls. They screwed up the pricing though. $31,000 is the price of the package, not including a donor car. http://www.hpamotorsports.com/r32.htm
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I'm working on a R34 Skyline now. I'm running mid 9's with a stock turbo and transmission, and TCS off. I think a low 8 is do-able, maybe high 7's. Oi vey...
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Im finding GT4 kinda boring already and only had it a week

call of duty online is so much better
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I'm working on a R34 Skyline now. I'm running mid 9's with a stock turbo and transmission, and TCS off. I think a low 8 is do-able, maybe high 7's. Oi vey...
Watsup Brian Spilner. Are 9's doable w/ stock turbo and transmission in a skyline or did the game developer's make the skyline better than it really is due to fanboy love?
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Watsup Brian Spilner. Are 9's doable w/ stock turbo and transmission in a skyline or did the game developer's make the skyline better than it really is due to fanboy love?
I doubt it's possible with just about any car. To get 9's in something around 3000lbs you need more like 700hp, not the <500 I had in the R34.

My best run was 8.585@180. Running a 3speed or 4speed had result within .05 of eachother.
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