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View Poll Results: Enzo or Veyron?
Enzo 81 45.25%
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Bugatti, since i need something that can get me over 350km/h
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they both suck huge amounts of dick
Of whose? Yours? Great, Eminem, just great... And the Pagani could be faster, if taken by a tornado... there are lots of them back in England, are there not?

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Enzo or Veyron or do not bother to post. The thread is Enzo or Veyron.
Can't you take a joke?
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And it looks ugly, does it really need to have a two color paint job?
The color in the photos above is kinda bad, true, but I've seen it in some other colors too, like black and blue, or two types of grey (a light and a dark one), so there are some options to chose from. And who knows, if you are a customer and ask for only one color, maybe they'll do it for you. Yet I think the two color paint job further highlights the shape of the car.
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Of whose? Yours? Great, Eminem, just great... And the Pagani could be faster, if taken by a tornado... there are lots of them back in England, are there not?
yeah ...god damn n00b

the enzo is an ugly piece of shit and the bugatti is as heavy as a house

Weight lb (kg): 3416 (1550) thats nearly 1000lb heavier than the pagani

The pagani is greater than both of them, looks a hell of alot better, so what if it cant go as fast, i challenge you to find anywhere in the world that you find a normal stretch of road that you can do 250mph on.

this will do fine for me

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Engine
7.3 liter AMG V12

Weight
2712 lbs

Aspiration
natural

Torque
561 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm

HP
602 hp @ 6150 rpm

HP/Weight
4.5 lbs per hp

HP/Liter
82.4 hp per liter

0-124 mph
9.8 seconds

0-62 mph
3.6 seconds

Top Speed
over 214 mph

and now for enzo
0-62 mph sprint time of 3.65 seconds - Oh wait isnt that 0.05 seconds slower

£420,000 Oh isnt that another £100,000 more than the pagani

Top Speed mph : 218 - My god that extra 4mph is gonna make so much difference

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I'd take them both, but the Veyron seems like your luxury supercar. I mean, its got a freaking diamond in the console!

But I would take them both given the chance as collectables.
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yeah ...god damn n00b

the enzo is an ugly piece of shit and the bugatti is as heavy as a house

Weight lb (kg): 3416 (1550) thats nearly 1000lb heavier than the pagani

The pagani is greater than both of them, looks a hell of alot better, so what if it cant go as fast, i challenge you to find anywhere in the world that you find a normal stretch of road that you can do 250mph on.

this will do fine for me

Price
--

Production
--

Engine
7.3 liter AMG V12

Weight
2712 lbs

Aspiration
natural

Torque
561 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm

HP
602 hp @ 6150 rpm

HP/Weight
4.5 lbs per hp

HP/Liter
82.4 hp per liter

0-124 mph
9.8 seconds

0-62 mph
3.6 seconds

Top Speed
over 214 mph

and now for enzo
0-62 mph sprint time of 3.65 seconds - Oh wait isnt that 0.05 seconds slower

£420,000 Oh isnt that another £100,000 more than the pagani

Top Speed mph : 218 - My god that extra 4mph is gonna make so much difference

John Wain got OWNED
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The Veyron certainly sounds great at full chat

Apart from that it is rubbish.

Overdone styling inside and out.

Sledgehammer engineering with no finesse - as much power as possible to make it go fast, then 4wd and a raft of electronics to keep that power from throwing the car off the road (which obviously doesn't work - given the nubmer of times development cars have hit things)

Style over substance - clearly demonstrated by the fact that they suddenly realised the design they came up with couldn't actually stay on the ground at 250mph or keep the engine and gearbox cool.

The Enzo is also a poor attempt at a supercar. Without the trick electronics I suspect it would be complete rubbish.

Playstation controls - press "O" to turn off traction control - L1 changes up, R1 changes down etc... and by all accounts about as interesting to drive as a playstation game. I've read several reports complaining of poor feedback, ride, lack of driver involvement etc.

Their thinking was obviously "lets make an F1 car for the road" clearly forgetting that F1 is the pinnacle of boredom.

A supercar should be an exquisitely refined piece of exceedingly clever engineering and design - not just a VAG executive's wet dream or a load of carbon fibre and electronics lashed together.

Pagani and Koenigsegg seem to be the only companies following that philosophy.
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I think that all cars are going towards the playstation generation. Using all the electronical possibilities to make the cars better. This is because most of the people that are buying cars now were part of the playstation generation.
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I chose the Veyron, not because it looks better or is faster, I think that in this very exclusive market the Veyron will be more exclusive and be coveted by collectors .... and collectors - Jay Leno aside - don't drive them, they display the cars with engine details and tech highlights displayed on a plaque while the car rotates on mirrors with lights flashing.

Veyrons will not be driven, IMHO, and will probably earn a legendary reputation as the fastest road car (circa 2005) that never turned a wheel on a public road.

I have to agree with Cov concerning Koenigsegg and Pagani. But it would be between these 2 (even Ferrari for the F430) that would end up with my money if I were in the market .... hell I mgiht even look into a used car .... McLaren F1 would be nice.
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amen to cov
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they both suck huge amounts of dick
Really classy repsone Mustang.

I can play that stupid game to, but I do not act like a 5 year old.
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how many 5 year olds do you know that know about sucking huge amounts of dick

lol enough of that, these 2 cars are terrible

GO KOENIGSEGG AND PAGANI !!
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how many 5 year olds do you know that know about sucking huge amounts of dick

lol enough of that, these 2 cars are terrible

GO KOENIGSEGG AND PAGANI !!
Damn man, you are terrible! Forget about it! Go Koenigsegg and Pagani, but just SHUT UP! Piston Burner's right, you really act like a five year old, or shoud I say four?!
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Haha.

Your just jealous becuase im older than you
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