Mercedes Benz Engine

[NAZCA C2]

Why is the Mercedes F1 engine such a large peice of poopy? Mercedes is one of the biggest manufacturers in the world and they are getting shown up by Ferrari, BMW, Toyota, Honda, Jaguar, and Renault. Last year Mclaren was a championship contender and this year they can barely finish a race. Last years engine wasnt the best but it was reliable. MB needs to get its stuff together. Kimi deserves better!

[DasModell]

i almoast feel sorry for him

[Alfahollic]

Puts a bigger smile on my face every time i see one of those "powerfull" Mclarens expire. Like wise with those shithouse BMW powered things. Best they change the rules again so the others can keep up with Ferrari...

[Ferrari Tifosi]

Remember Mercedes themselves don't build the F1 engine, a company they own, Ilmor Engineering, does.

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by Ferrari Tifosi

Remember Mercedes themselves don't build the F1 engine, a company they own, Ilmor Engineering, does.

Well actually NONE of the F1 car engines are designed and/or built by the mainstream company. They all have offshoots.
Some are at more arms-length than others.
The buck stops at Norbert Haug and it's time Ron got some gumption and called it as it is. I can't wait till (if!) DC gets signed for another team. I espect he'll then start talking straight and none of the Ron-speak the team has used in the last 5 years !!!!

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

.... none of the Ron-speak the team has used in the last 5 years !!!!

Dave Richards at BAR is a breath of fresh air in the F1 team locker room

Hopefully he'll keep himself "grounded" as the team progresses !!

Maybe all successful F1 teams need a rally-bred manager to succeed - Jean Todt

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

I can't wait till (if!) DC gets signed for another team. I espect he'll then start talking straight and none of the Ron-speak the team has used in the last 5 years !!!!

It'll be interesting to see if DC does start telling a few tales about life with Ron and Merc.

How much do you want to bet that DC will have a book out in the not too distant future?

[Homem de Gelo]

Mercedes sucks, but then, they have never been the same after FIA had to intervene and ban berylium, under the false acusation that it was dangerous and bla-bla-bla.

[drakkie]

yep , they kinda screwed up this year. I hope for them that the build a better engine for next year.They can keep this engine ,if they blow up that nice as kimi raikonnen in bahrein , for the whole year . On a scale from one to ten , it surely is a 9.5. Damn that was a nice one, you dont see them as often anymore.



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[NAZCA C2]

Originally Posted by Ferrari Tifosi

Remember Mercedes themselves don't build the F1 engine, a company they own, Ilmor Engineering, does.

thats true but it say mercedes benz on the valve covers so MB is the one that will be looking stupid when Mclaren finishes near the bottom of the constructors championship and not ilmor.

[Ferrari Tifosi]

Originally Posted by NAZCA C2

thats true but it say mercedes benz on the valve covers so MB is the one that will be looking stupid when Mclaren finishes near the bottom of the constructors championship and not ilmor.

Very true

[Matra et Alpine]

Originally Posted by drakkie

....They can keep this engine ,if they blow up that nice as kimi raikonnen in bahrein , for the whole year . On a scale from one to ten , it surely is a 9.5. Damn that was a nice one, you dont see them as often anymore.

Definately, the sight of white hot pieces of metal spewing out the exhaust in that ball of flames was impressive. The ITV commentator mentioned it and wondered how M-B would explain it as NOT being an engine failure

[DasModell]

Originally Posted by HBoss

Mercedes sucks, but then, they have never been the same after FIA had to intervene and ban berylium, under the false acusation that it was dangerous and bla-bla-bla.

well .. actually it is kinda dangerous ..

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by drakkie

yep , they kinda screwed up this year. I hope for them that the build a better engine for next year.They can keep this engine ,if they blow up that nice as kimi raikonnen in bahrein , for the whole year . On a scale from one to ten , it surely is a 9.5. Damn that was a nice one, you dont see them as often anymore.

Yeah, that's the thing with the one engine rule. I miss the sight a $1m engine self destructing.

[DasModell]

the blow was .... hmm . pretty good .. maybe a 7.5 to 8 .. best two .. McLaren F1 and Porsche 911 GT1 at LeMans ... on the mulsanne straight ..