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That just hurts...
if only my 5th engineeirng degree stuff was this inviting, this is the fun bit!
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I think he mean he wants each step broken down.
I don't see how that will help you blingbling unless somebody explains it all you.
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I think he mean he wants each step broken down.
I don't see how that will help you blingbling unless somebody explains it all you.
Leave it man, I'm too bloody tired to try and commit my self to anything mathematical...
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hope this is clearer
if there is stuff you can't understand here, then you might need to look back on notes, we cant teach you all about differentiation, there is no quick solution. sorry to be a bummer if am, you are welcome to ask me/us individual questions like "how to derive an exponential function on its own".or tell us Where is it you struggle? best of luck
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I remember doing all that and being very good at it. 2 years without maths of any sort and I REALLY need to refresh, thanks for the thread
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hope this helps. finally having a tablet comes in handy. just in case you don't trust me, mathematica's answer is attached too.
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looking at that, i might not have done the derivative of e^u correctly. but i think i did. one of us is wrong.
Your first derivative is the correct one.

However, is the second derivative correct? The first two components look right but the third doesn't (looking at the non-simplified form).

Should it be:

(2/x^2)e^(-1/x^2)(2/x^2)

or

(2/x^3)e^(-1/x^2)(2/x^2)
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Wow I am so glad I never have to take a Math course again. EvAr!!!!
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maths is funnnn
Going to the strip club is fun. Math isn't.
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Going to the strip club is fun. Math isn't.
Math is fun when you calculate stuff on engine and valves and those kind of stuff Otherwise it is boring,difficult and annoying
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Math is fun when you calculate stuff on engine and valves and those kind of stuff Otherwise it is boring,difficult and annoying
that is what makes an engineering course more fun and useful than a maths course
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Your first derivative is the correct one.

However, is the second derivative correct? The first two components look right but the third doesn't (looking at the non-simplified form).

Should it be:

(2/x^2)e^(-1/x^2)(2/x^2)

or

(2/x^3)e^(-1/x^2)(2/x^2)
Yes i did this quickly it goes like you said and the final answer comes out
((-2/x^3)+(4/x^5))e^(-1/x^2)
which is correct its the same answer given by mathematica in someone else's post. In my hurry to be done i didn't check my exponenets.
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hope this is clearer
Your derivation of e^u is wrong.

d/dx e^u = u'e^(u)

you have it as

d/dx e^u = e^(u')
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that is what makes an engineering course more fun and useful than a maths course
Agreed and I hate it when math teachers say just do math for the sake of math (even though I do like it). It is supposed to be a tool and applications in the real world are most important.
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