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I have to admit, the Mazda 787B has really grown on me the few past months. I was suprised to actually find out that it was rotary powered, and it beat the Sauber Mercedes at LeMans. I am just wondering what your thought on it are.
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My thought is, that it's a freakin' ledgend. And that the MXR-01 that replaced it looks even cooler, but, alas, couldn't deliver. Oh, and I think it's cool that it's N/A.
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was suprised to actually find out that it was rotary powered, and it beat the Sauber Mercedes at LeMans. I am just wondering what your thought on it are.
You are kidding me aren't you?

Anyway, I think it's an awesome machine, a true underdog.
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The first and only Japanese car to win Le Mans?
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The first and only Rotary to win at Le Mans perhaps?
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yes. yes.
Also the "most reliable finisher" engine raced in Le Mans too
[excluding the one year, 3 car Honda entry !]
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I have to admit, the Mazda 787B has really grown on me the few past months. I was suprised to actually find out that it was rotary powered
Are you serious? that is practically the only well renowned fact about the car.

[CYNIC] think it was successful because it was allowed to run light[/CYNIC]
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[CYNIC] think it was successful because it was allowed to run light[/CYNIC]
You're actually pretty close to the truth, in a way, sort of. Rotaries were banned by the FIA after it won as they said that rotaries had a significant weight advantage. Which is a shame, as they could've just worked out an equivalency formula for them, and Mazda could've continued to work at the engine and we may have had better rotaries than we do now. Pity.
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When you put it like that, it is a pity.
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Considering the engineering effort that went into the Renesis, i dont think we got that much of a raw deal.
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[excluding the one year, 3 car Honda entry !]
Didn't two of them drop out, and one finished 2nd in class?
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Which is a shame, as they could've just worked out an equivalency formula for them, and Mazda could've continued to work at the engine and we may have had better rotaries than we do now. Pity.
Yeah but if they made it heavier to be fair with the power/weight thing it would still have sucked with the fuel efficiency and the would have canned it anyway.
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I was not aware of there being a minimum weight in Group C.
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I was not aware of there being a minimum weight in Group C.
I thought it was 1000kg, but the Mazda was running about 830kg. Although, I am by no means a Le Mans historic rulebook buff.
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I thought it was 1000kg, but the Mazda was running about 830kg. Although, I am by no means a Le Mans historic rulebook buff.
IIRC, Group C was based in fuel consumption/fuel tank size formula.
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