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Old 04-20-2007, 11:57 PM
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Rate Your Car

I don't think this kind of survey has been done.
Borrowing the idea from Car & Driver (the older issues), I thought it would be interesting to rate the cars we own on different items.
I figure that (hopefully) the 0-10 scale is most familiar (0 being poor; 10 being excellent).

I own three cars, so I won't rate them all at the same time. And I'm trying to be fair... I didn't give a whole bunch of "10s". If anything, I may be too critical in rating a few of the items.

So if anyone wants to jump in and rate their car(s), go ahead!
Anyway, here are my ratings for one of my cars to start with:
1969 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, 4-door 6-passenger sedan.

Styling (which is hard to rate, since it varies from person to person):
-------------------------- 9
Engine:
Starting------------------- 9
Response/acceleration----- 8
Fuel mileage--------------- 4
Noise---------------------- 8
Vibration------------------- 8

Drivetrain:
Shift smoothness----------- 9
Transmission controls------- 8

Brakes:
Response------------------- 7
Pedal pressure-------------- 8
Smoothness---------------- 9
Directional stability---------- 8
Fade resistance------------- 7

Steering:
Response------------------- 7
Accuracy------------------- 7
Feedback------------------- 6
Road feel------------------- 4


Suspension:
Ride comfort---------------- 9
Harshness control----------- 9
Roll stiffness---------------- 7
Tracking-------------------- 9
Pitch control---------------- 7
Shock damping-------------- 7

Controls:
Location-------------------- 8
Relationship----------------- 8
Small controls--------------- 8
Instrument comprehensiveness-- 9
Instrument legibility---------- 8

Interior:
Visibility--------------------- 7
Instrumentation-------------- 6
Lighting---------------------- 7
Entry/exit-------------------- 10
Storage space---------------- 7
Wind noise-------------------- 9
Road noise-------------------- 9

Weather protection:
Ventilation-------------------- 9
Weather sealing--------------- 8
Windshield wiper action-------- 8
Heater/defroster/air cond.----- 9

Quality control:
Materials, exterior-------------- 8
Interior------------------------ 9
Exterior finish------------------- 8
Interior finish------------------- 9
Hardware and trim-------------- 8
Sheet metal-------------------- 9
Paint--------------------------- 9
Chrome------------------------- 10
Upholstery---------------------- 9
Padding------------------------- 9


General:
Service accessibility------------ 8
Bumper protection-------------- 10
Exterior lighting----------------- 8
Resistance to crosswinds-------- 9
Luggage space------------------ 10

Comfort:
Steering wheel position---------- 9
Shoulder room, front------------- 9
Rear---------------------------- 9
Hip room, front------------------- 9
Rear---------------------------- 9
Leg room, front------------------ 9
Rear---------------------------- 9
Headroom front/rear-------------- 8/8
Seat design---------------------- 9
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:08 AM
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thats quite a range. i might do it tommorow for it is too late now
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:09 AM
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RATE YOUR CAR
Not a bad idea. although it's a little long winded. I've shortened mine somewhat :P

FURTHER EDIT - sorry - it's a 1986 BMW 318i.

Styling-------------------- 8.5
Engine:
Response/acceleration----- 6
Fuel mileage--------------- 8
Noise/Vibration/Harshness-- 3


Drivetrain:
Shift smoothness----------- 5
Transmission controls------- 6

Brakes:
Response ------------------7
Pedal Pressure -------------9
Fade ----------------------6

Steering:
Feel ---------------------10
Turn In ------------------ 9
Weighting ----------------10


Suspension:
Comfort ------------------6
Control ------------------ 8


Controls:
Location-------------------- 7
Relationship----------------- 9
Small controls--------------- 8
Instrument legibility---------- 10

Interior:
Visibility--------------------- 8
Instrumentation-------------- 7.5
Lighting---------------------- 2
Entry/exit-------------------- 8/7
Storage space---------------- 5
Wind noise-------------------- 7
Road noise-------------------- 5
Comfort (Cool/Heat) ----------4/9
Seating Position/Adjustability--8.5/4 (my seats are from a Coupe BMW - minorly dodgy )

General:
Build Quality (Interior/Exterior) 4/9.5
Fit/Finish -------------------9/8

Condition:
Paint -----------------------2
Body/Panels-----------------8
Interior Plastics -------------1
Interior Fabrics -------------4



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Old 04-21-2007, 12:09 AM
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thats quite a range. i might do it tommorow for it is too late now
Yeah, it is. I wanted it to be thorough. Let me know if I missed any item(s).
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:10 AM
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IB4R... what is the car? BTW, feel free to modify the items so it applies to your car.
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:23 AM
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1996 Suzuki Alto

Styling--------------------3

Engine:
Starting------------------- 8
Response/acceleration----- 8
Fuel mileage--------------- 10 (1 l : 20 km !)
Noise---------------------- 6
Vibration------------------- 6

Drivetrain:
Shift smoothness----------- 8 (with new gear linkages)
Transmission controls------- 8

Brakes:
Response------------------- 6
Pedal pressure-------------- 7
Smoothness---------------- 9
Directional stability---------- 5
Fade resistance------------- 8

Steering:
Response------------------- 7
Accuracy------------------- 7
Feedback------------------- 8
Road feel------------------- 6


Suspension:
Ride comfort---------------- 6 1/2
Harshness control----------- 7
Roll stiffness---------------- 5
Tracking-------------------- 10
Pitch control---------------- 7
Shock damping-------------- 6 1/2

Controls:
Location-------------------- 8
Relationship----------------- 8
Small controls--------------- 8
Instrument comprehensiveness-- 9
Instrument legibility---------- 9

Interior:
Visibility--------------------- 8
Instrumentation-------------- 6
Lighting---------------------- 7
Entry/exit-------------------- 8 (compared to other small car !)
Storage space---------------- 5
Wind noise-------------------- 6
Road noise-------------------- 9

Weather protection:
Ventilation-------------------- 8
Weather sealing--------------- 9
Windshield wiper action-------- 7
Heater/defroster/air cond.----- 7

Quality control:
Materials, exterior-------------- 6 1/2
Interior------------------------ 6
Exterior finish------------------- 6
Interior finish------------------- 6
Hardware and trim-------------- 7
Sheet metal-------------------- 8
Paint--------------------------- 4
Chrome------------------------- N/A
Upholstery---------------------- 5 1/2
Padding------------------------- 6


General:
Service accessibility------------ 8
Bumper protection-------------- 8
Exterior lighting----------------- 6 1/2 (8 with new aftermarket xenon lights)
Resistance to crosswinds-------- 3 (really working to keep it on the highway ! )
Luggage space------------------ 6

Comfort:
Steering wheel position---------- 7
Shoulder room, front------------- 9
Rear---------------------------- 9
Hip room, front------------------- 9
Rear---------------------------- 9
Leg room, front------------------ 7
Rear---------------------------- 6
Headroom front/rear-------------- 8/8
Seat design---------------------- 6

Overall I can say it's not that bad of a car for the money. With minor adjustments and some tinkering you get a much better vehicle. The only downside is the stability and sensitiveness to crosswinds on the highway. It is really demanding to drive and after an hour or 4 you are absolutely knackered because you have to keep adjusting it's path.

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Old 04-21-2007, 12:44 AM
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drakkie, at least yours has some 9s and 10s.
I wonder if I should have had an overall rating listed? Well, I guess I can always modify the list.
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:22 AM
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Styling--------------------6

Engine:
Starting------------------- 10
Response/acceleration----- 4
Fuel mileage--------------- 7 (7 l : 100 km)
Noise---------------------- 6
Vibration------------------- 4

Drivetrain:
Shift smoothness----------- 9 (once warm)
Transmission controls------- 6

Brakes:
Response------------------- 7
Pedal pressure-------------- 8
Smoothness---------------- 4
Directional stability---------- 3
Fade resistance------------- 0

Steering:
Response------------------- 2
Accuracy------------------- 4
Feedback------------------- 9
Road feel------------------- 8


Suspension:
Ride comfort---------------- 2
Harshness control----------- 2
Roll stiffness---------------- 5
Tracking-------------------- 6
Pitch control---------------- 5
Shock damping-------------- 3

Controls:
Location-------------------- 10
Relationship----------------- 9
Instrument comprehensiveness-- 9
Instrument legibility---------- 8

Interior:
Visibility--------------------- 10
Instrumentation-------------- 6
Lighting---------------------- 8
Entry/exit-------------------- 10
Storage space---------------- 6
Wind noise-------------------- 4
Road noise-------------------- 5

Weather protection:
Ventilation-------------------- 6
Weather sealing--------------- 8
Windshield wiper action-------- 4
Heater/defroster/air cond.----- 8

Quality control:
Materials, exterior-------------- 4
Interior------------------------ 5
Exterior finish------------------- 6
Interior finish------------------- 4
Hardware and trim-------------- 8
Sheet metal-------------------- 2
Paint--------------------------- 0
Chrome------------------------- 5
Upholstery---------------------- 2
Padding------------------------- 4


General:
Service accessibility------------ 9
Exterior lighting----------------- 4 (7 with new aftermarket Hellas)
Resistance to crosswinds-------- 2
Luggage space------------------ 10

Comfort:
Steering wheel position---------- 7
Shoulder room, front------------- 10
Rear---------------------------- stereo
Hip room, front------------------- 10
Rear---------------------------- N/A
Leg room, front------------------ 4
Rear---------------------------- N/A
Headroom front------------------- 8
Seat design---------------------- 8 (surprisingly comfortable on long journeys)
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Old 04-21-2007, 03:54 AM
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My Dads new VW Passat sedan

Styling (which is hard to rate, since it varies from person to person):
-------------------------- 10
Engine:
Starting------------------- 9
Response/acceleration----- 9
Fuel mileage--------------- 9
Noise---------------------- 9
Vibration------------------- 9

Drivetrain:
Shift smoothness----------- 9
Transmission controls------- 9

Brakes:
Response------------------- 9
Pedal pressure-------------- 9
Smoothness---------------- 9
Directional stability---------- 9
Fade resistance------------- 10

Steering:
Response------------------- 9
Accuracy------------------- 9
Feedback------------------- 9
Road feel------------------- 10


Suspension:
Ride comfort---------------- 9
Harshness control----------- 9
Roll stiffness---------------- 9
Tracking-------------------- 9
Pitch control---------------- 9
Shock damping-------------- 9

Controls:
Location-------------------- 9
Relationship----------------- 9
Small controls--------------- 9
Instrument comprehensiveness-- 9
Instrument legibility---------- 9

Interior:
Visibility--------------------- 10
Instrumentation-------------- 10
Lighting---------------------- 9
Entry/exit-------------------- 10
Storage space---------------- 9
Wind noise-------------------- 9
Road noise-------------------- 9

Weather protection:
Ventilation-------------------- 9
Weather sealing--------------- 9
Windshield wiper action-------- 9
Heater/defroster/air cond.----- 9

Quality control:
Materials, exterior-------------- 9
Interior------------------------ 9
Exterior finish------------------- 9
Interior finish------------------- 9
Hardware and trim-------------- 9
Sheet metal-------------------- 9
Paint--------------------------- 9
Chrome------------------------- 10
Upholstery---------------------- 9
Padding------------------------- 9


General:
Service accessibility------------ 9
Bumper protection-------------- 10
Exterior lighting----------------- 9
Resistance to crosswinds-------- 9
Luggage space------------------ 10

Comfort:
Steering wheel position---------- 9
Shoulder room, front------------- 9
Rear---------------------------- 9
Hip room, front------------------- 9
Rear---------------------------- 9
Leg room, front------------------ 9
Rear---------------------------- 9
Headroom front/rear-------------- 10
Seat design---------------------- 9

Not to brag about, but this is a seriously good car and looks a million bucks. its got a V6 that is pretty good to 0-100kmh. the steering is very responsive when your about to do a sharp turn, if you don't believe me try one out.

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Old 04-21-2007, 04:02 AM
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drakkie, at least yours has some 9s and 10s.
That's because these properties really deserve it.. The tracking is excellent, i've let go of the steering wheel at high speed (170km/h) and it keeps on going straight out without a problem. You just don't want to know where it goes when there is wind..

The best mileage I got (1l / 20km) is pretty damn good. The average for normal driving is about 1l / 17or18 km's, which is better than most cars out there !

For what I expected (not much) it is a damn neat car.
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:08 AM
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My Audi A4 1.8T 97' Front Trak



Styling (which is hard to rate, since it varies from person to person):
-------------------------- 8 (9=AR156GTA, 10=8C)
Engine:
Starting------------------- Starting????
Response/acceleration----- 2
Fuel mileage--------------- 2
Noise---------------------- 3
Vibration------------------- 4

Drivetrain:
Shift smoothness----------- 0 (Only Jap makes are smooth)
Transmission controls------- 1

Brakes:
Response------------------- My response??!? then 8
Pedal pressure-------------- ???!?
Smoothness---------------- 1
Directional stability---------- 0
Fade resistance------------- 2

Steering:
Response------------------- 7
Accuracy------------------- 8
Feedback------------------- 8
Road feel------------------- 7


Suspension:
Ride comfort---------------- 0
Harshness control----------- 0
Roll stiffness---------------- 4
Tracking-------------------- 2
Pitch control---------------- 5
Shock damping-------------- 0

Controls:
Location-------------------- 9
Relationship----------------- 9
Small controls--------------- 9
Instrument comprehensiveness-- 9
Instrument legibility---------- 9

Interior:
Visibility--------------------- 7
Instrumentation-------------- 6
Lighting---------------------- 9
Entry/exit-------------------- 10
Storage space---------------- 9
Wind noise-------------------- 3
Road noise-------------------- 1

Weather protection:
Ventilation-------------------- 0
Weather sealing--------------- 0
Windshield wiper action-------- 2
Heater/defroster/air cond.----- 5

Quality control:
Materials, exterior-------------- 7
Interior------------------------ (Used to be 9, now 6)
Exterior finish------------------- (Used to be 8, now 4)
Interior finish------------------- (Used to be 10, now 4)
Hardware and trim-------------- (Used to be 10, now 4)
Sheet metal-------------------- 7
Paint--------------------------- 6
Chrome------------------------- 6
Upholstery---------------------- (Used to be 9, now 2)
Padding------------------------- 10


General:
Service accessibility------------ 9
Bumper protection-------------- ???
Exterior lighting----------------- 2
Resistance to crosswinds-------- 7
Luggage space------------------ 8

Comfort:
Steering wheel position---------- 9
Shoulder room, front------------- 9
Rear---------------------------- 2
Hip room, front------------------- 9
Rear---------------------------- 2
Leg room, front------------------ 9
Rear---------------------------- 2
Headroom front/rear-------------- 10
Seat design---------------------- 5

Overall, I bought the A4 not because how it performs in whichever way, not because of the Turbo or the 1.8, or the brand. I just liked how it looks.
Given unlimited fundings, I'd take this A4 bodyshell, tug in an Alfa Romeo 156 interior, throw in Toyota's 2.0 VVTi-L and turbo charged it and a 6 speed manual shift from Altezza (previous IS)

TO HELL WITH ZF TRANSMISSION AND CRAPPY VAG 1.8T
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:11 AM
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1991 Honda DA9 integra LS

Styling (which is hard to rate, since it varies from person to person):
-------------------------- 6
Engine:
Starting------------------- 9
Response/acceleration----- 4
Fuel mileage--------------- 8
Noise---------------------- 7
Vibration------------------- 7

Drivetrain:
Shift smoothness----------- 8
Transmission controls------- 3

Brakes:
Response------------------- 8
Pedal pressure-------------- 9
Smoothness---------------- 7
Directional stability---------- 10
Fade resistance------------- 4

Steering:
Response------------------- 6
Accuracy------------------- 8
Feedback------------------- 7
Road feel------------------- 9


Suspension:
Ride comfort---------------- 8
Harshness control----------- 6
Roll stiffness---------------- 5
Tracking-------------------- 7
Pitch control---------------- 7
Shock damping-------------- 7

Controls:
Location-------------------- 9
Relationship----------------- 9
Small controls--------------- 9
Instrument comprehensiveness-- 9
Instrument legibility---------- 7

Interior:
Visibility--------------------- 9
Instrumentation-------------- 8
Lighting---------------------- 10
Entry/exit-------------------- 10
Storage space---------------- 7
Wind noise-------------------- 8
Road noise-------------------- 6

Weather protection:
Ventilation-------------------- 10
Weather sealing--------------- 9
Windshield wiper action-------- 8
Heater/defroster/air cond.----- 9

Quality control:
Materials, exterior-------------- 9
Interior------------------------ 9 (perfect condition 16 years on..)
Exterior finish------------------- 7
Interior finish------------------- 8
Hardware and trim-------------- 6
Sheet metal-------------------- 8
Paint--------------------------- 7
Chrome------------------------- N/A
Upholstery---------------------- 9
Padding------------------------- 9


General:
Service accessibility------------ 7
Bumper protection-------------- 5
Exterior lighting----------------- 8
Resistance to crosswinds-------- 8
Luggage space------------------ 7

Comfort:
Steering wheel position---------- 9
Shoulder room, front------------- 9
Rear---------------------------- 7
Hip room, front------------------- 9
Rear---------------------------- 7
Leg room, front------------------ 9
Rear---------------------------- 5
Headroom front/rear-------------- 8/5
Seat design---------------------- 7
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98 Subaru Justy, 1.3, manual, 5dr

Styling (which is hard to rate, since it varies from person to person):
-------------------------- 2
Engine:
Starting------------------- every time! 8
Response/acceleration----- 6
Fuel mileage--------------- 7
Noise---------------------- 6 (its quiet!)
Vibration------------------- 4

Drivetrain:
Shift smoothness----------- depends on me (Only Jap makes are smooth)
Transmission controls------- 1

Brakes:
Response------------------- 3 there anti-lock beause the pads suck!
Pedal pressure-------------- cant really say
Smoothness---------------- 4
Directional stability---------- 0
Fade resistance------------- 1

Steering:
Response------------------- 5
Accuracy------------------- 4
Feedback------------------- 4
Road feel------------------- 3


Suspension:
Ride comfort---------------- 0
Harshness control----------- 0
Roll stiffness---------------- 3
Tracking-------------------- 2
Pitch control---------------- 5
Shock damping-------------- 1

Controls:
Location-------------------- 9
Relationship----------------- 9
Small controls--------------- 7
Instrument comprehensiveness-- 7
Instrument legibility---------- 8

Interior:
Visibility--------------------- 8
Instrumentation-------------- 6
Lighting---------------------- 2
Entry/exit-------------------- 6
Storage space---------------- 6
Wind noise-------------------- 2
Road noise-------------------- 0

Weather protection:
Ventilation-------------------- 2
Weather sealing--------------- 2
Windshield wiper action-------- 3
Heater/defroster/air cond.----- 2 no a/c and noisy

Quality control:
Materials, exterior-------------- 3
Interior------------------------ 4
Exterior finish------------------- 3
Interior finish------------------- 3
Hardware and trim-------------- 3
Sheet metal-------------------- 2
Paint--------------------------- 3
Chrome------------------------- (its not american )
Upholstery---------------------- 1
Padding------------------------- 3


General:
Service accessibility------------ 7
Bumper protection-------------- ???
Exterior lighting----------------- 2
Resistance to crosswinds-------- 6
Luggage space------------------ 4

Comfort:
Steering wheel position---------- 5 (no adjustment at all )
Shoulder room, front------------- 5
Rear---------------------------- 5
Hip room, front------------------- 6
Rear---------------------------- 6
Leg room, front------------------ 7
Rear---------------------------- 4 (surprisingly ok)
Headroom front/rear-------------- 7
Seat design---------------------- 2
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:58 AM
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I think that this is one of the most quality threads there has been in a while. Good job fleet!
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Styling (which is hard to rate, since it varies from person to person):
-------------------------- 8
Engine:
Starting------------------- 9
Response/acceleration----- 8
Fuel mileage--------------- 6
Noise---------------------- 7
Vibration------------------- 9

Drivetrain:
Shift smoothness----------- 7
Transmission controls------- 7

Brakes:
Response------------------- 8
Pedal pressure-------------- 8
Smoothness---------------- 8
Directional stability---------- 8
Fade resistance------------- 8

Steering:
Response------------------- 9
Accuracy------------------- 9
Feedback------------------- 8
Road feel------------------- 9


Suspension:
Ride comfort---------------- 5
Harshness control----------- 6
Roll stiffness---------------- 8

Controls:
Location-------------------- 8
Relationship----------------- 8
Small controls--------------- 7
Instrument comprehensiveness-- 9
Instrument legibility---------- 9

Interior:
Visibility--------------------- 8
Instrumentation-------------- 8
Lighting---------------------- 8
Entry/exit-------------------- 5
Storage space---------------- 3
Wind noise-------------------- 4
Road noise-------------------- 4

Weather protection:
Ventilation-------------------- 8
Weather sealing--------------- 8
Windshield wiper action-------- 6
Heater/defroster/air cond.----- 8

Quality control:
Materials, exterior-------------- 8
Interior------------------------ 7
Exterior finish------------------- 8
Interior finish------------------- 7
Hardware and trim-------------- 7
Sheet metal-------------------- 9
Paint--------------------------- 9
Upholstery---------------------- 9
Padding------------------------- 9


General:
Bumper protection-------------- 5
Exterior lighting----------------- 9
Resistance to crosswinds-------- 9
Luggage space------------------ 3

Comfort:
Steering wheel position---------- 9
Shoulder room, front------------- 8
Rear---------------------------- 5
Hip room, front------------------- 8
Rear---------------------------- 4
Leg room, front------------------ 8
Rear---------------------------- 2
Headroom front/rear-------------- 7/7
Seat design---------------------- 9
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