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Unread 10-25-2007, 06:31 AM
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They'll probably use the 'box they've got that fits an SLR and can reliably take 478 kW and 820 N·m.

You know, rather than spend millions designing and building/commissioning a new manual one for 21 cars.
You're right, but so utterly down-to-earth as usual... I guess that's why your posts are so ultimately boring to read.

Anyway, even if Mercedes spends 'millions' developing a manual transmission for only 21 cars, I'm quite sure they could just raise the car's price (which is probably already very high) to recoup their investment, and it seems obvious that they're all sell like hotcakes whatever their price is, just like the FXX.
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Mercedes-Benz McLaren SLR 722 GT Spied On The 'Ring


We have gotten our grubby hands on spy photos taken a few days ago of the Mercedes-Benz McLaren SLR 722 GT, and it looks pretty much completed. Shot on the 'Ring last week, this killer supercar lapped the 20.6 kilometer long Northern Loop (Nordschleife) in a stunning 7m 38s, although Auto Motor Und Sport reports the driver had to take it easy during the test because of transmission problems.

That is slightly faster than a 2004 run on the ring in a Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren, and runs by the Porsche 997 Turbo and Bugatti Veyron. Those three all finished in 7m 40s. The 722 GT was beat by the Koenigsegg CCR, which raced the Nordschleife in 7m 34 under cold conditions.

Only about 20 units of the McLaren SLR 722 GT will be produced. This GT version uses the same supercharged V8 as the SLR 722, getting 650 horsepower. Engineers somehow found a way to cut more than 650 lbs. from the 722's dry weight.

Speculation leads us to think this SLR 722 GT is being prepped for an upcoming FIA GT race. RML Motorsport, the company believed to be developing this car, refused our request for comment on the car, stating only that they are not allowed to say anything about the SLR 722 GT, whether they are involved or not. However, their truck parked next to the SLR 722 GT is an indicator that they have at least some interest in the vehicle's development.

We expect to find out more about this car, which should be wrapping up testing today, by the end of next week. We will definitely pass those details along when they become available.

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What do you mean automatic? Might have paddle shifters but it won't be automatic.
You know the present SLR's are all-automatic with no paddle shifters, don't you?

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Anyway, even if Mercedes spends 'millions' developing a manual transmission for only 21 cars, I'm quite sure they could just raise the car's price (which is probably already very high) to recoup their investment, and it seems obvious that they're all sell like hotcakes whatever their price is, just like the FXX.
Investment recovering is an expression that is never heard on this kind of projects. This cars usually represent a loss of money for a make like Mercedes. The result of such an investment is always hard to quantify, but I really doubt they build a totally new gearbox for it.
For me the car still looks like a circus to which they've just added a couple of pink elephants to make it even more absurd.
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Investment recovering is an expression that is never heard on this kind of projects. This cars usually represent a loss of money for a make like Mercedes. The result of such an investment is always hard to quantify, but I really doubt they build a totally new gearbox for it.
For me the car still looks like a circus to which they've just added a couple of pink elephants to make it even more absurd.
And an oversized, ridiculous looking wing! I didn't think Mercedes would actually lose money, I was figuring they could probably sell them at the price they want since it's a rare, powerful and rather light car, and since the regular SLR sold pretty well for what it is the GT version could do good too, even though they're not quite on the same market segment.

I do agree with you though now that you say it.
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You're right, but so utterly down-to-earth as usual... I guess that's why your posts are so ultimately boring to read.
I know, how uninteresting could common sense possible be?! I'm not trying to take the piss, but we've got to be serious here. It would cost stupid amounts to make your own gearbox (Mercedes gearboxes being built by the company themselves, as opposed to ZF). It's also a race car, so what would make much more sense would be to just add paddle-shifters to the car. I agree, the SLR shoulda had a Manual option in the first place (as well as the Auto), but i dont believe that they should put a manual in this car. Not only wouldit not make sense because of past mistakes (not putting a manual in the SLR - though, lets be honest, the SLR is more of a Super-GT, anyway, so it wasn't necessary to have a manual) and also because race cars very rarely have Manual boxes.

That car is bloody lovely. That big wing is the sex, and i love the stance. Looks mean!
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You know the present SLR's are all-automatic with no paddle shifters, don't you?
Don't they have thoose butons in the back of the wheel to change gears to? Works like a paddle to, still automatic gearbox and a it looks like s.....!
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You know the present SLR's are all-automatic with no paddle shifters, don't you?
Even so it would be insanely idiotic to make a track car like this, fully automatic.
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Not bad, however the wing looks a little goofy...
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Don't they have thoose butons in the back of the wheel to change gears to? Works like a paddle to, still automatic gearbox and a it looks like s.....!
the coupe has those buttons while the roadster has proper paddles. the 722 also has real paddles.

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the coupe has those buttons while the roadster has proper paddles. the 722 also has real paddles.
Yet, even the roadster is a torque converter and not a electrically controled manual.
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Even so it would be insanely idiotic to make a track car like this, fully automatic.
The reviews of both the SLK55 AMG Black Series and the CLK63 AMG Black Series both say the same thing, 'great car for road and track, awful transmission for the track.' MB has this obsession with putting auto'boxes with torque converters in all of their high-end sporting cars even when the cars (and their drivers) beg for a stick or sequential.
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And an oversized, ridiculous looking wing! I didn't think Mercedes would actually lose money, I was figuring they could probably sell them at the price they want since it's a rare, powerful and rather light car, and since the regular SLR sold pretty well for what it is the GT version could do good too, even though they're not quite on the same market segment.

I do agree with you though now that you say it.
Actually the regular SLR didn't sell too great.

That's why they had to update it with the 722 thingy.
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Oh, it looks like something more official...
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I don't like the car that much...but that first pic is now my wallpaper
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