Yet another GTR flaw.

[aNOBLEman]

Originally Posted by Ferrer

What if it fails because you drive it fast on the road?

I guess that's covered then? Which can be bad because that, in a sense, promotes street racing.

[NicFromLA]

This is really dumb. Nissan have implied pretty heavily that these cars are costing them more to make than they're selling them for and they're desperate for these cars to be a success, particularly in the US. If word gets around that car's gizmo's are set up with Nissan's lawyer's best interest and not the customers, this car might fail (particularly in the US where it's new to the market). It's always amazing to me when car companies move into other car companies territories as assume just because their product is good they can be successful. The fact is customer service and reputation are almost as important as the product and if this stuff is true it will kill the GT-R's reputation.

[Kooper]

This, if true, would be a huge mistake. Yooooge mistake.

But even so, I'm sure there'll be more than enough people out there willing to plonk down money for this car, if only to be able to say "I drive a GT-R, bro" and only use the car to idle down the busiest streets, windows down so everyone can notice.

Personally though, I can't understand with the market this car's targeting why something like this would ever seem like a good idea. Imagine some list somewhere:

Create a car that supposedly can take on a 911 Turbo on a track - Check.
Make sure it costs a fraction of the price of said Zuffenhausen product - Check.
Have marketing shout as loud as they can about the car's track credentials - Check.
Have CEO of company make claims of product being able to take on competitors "anywhere, anytime" - Check.

...Install device that would deter anyone with sane mind from testing the company's by now well known claims - Check.

Yep, makes sense.

[Waugh-terfall]

I thought the nav system turned off the limiter when the car reached a track but voided the warrantee if you tried to re-map it or something like that.

[koenigseggccx]

That may infact be the WORST choice EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER in the history of mankind. What the flap are they crackin'? honestly??

[TheOne]

how bout this, wait to see if its true and not some blab lie from somebody that doesn't like the car, or its a prototype model.

[Matra et Alpine]

Makes sense when you see what the difference is to a car driven enthusiastically on the road and one driven on a trackday.
Engines have a limited time at peak revs. Items wear and stress more at the limits. Fully tined Mini 1340s had a couple of minutes at peak revs ... but that was enough for a half a season of rallying.
LOTS of complaints about Subarus because they AREN'T marketed with such an open warning. Guys who track them are regularly having to change diffs, clutches, gearboxes, driveshafts ... then try to claim against warranty coz it's only 4 months old !
As I see it they're just trying to make sure buyers know up front what all sensible knew already ..... if you buy a road car and take it to the track and emulate a race/rally team don't expect it to last. If you wanted a race/rally car and will drive it so then buy one.

Personally, when I did lots of trackdays I treated them the same as I do a competitive event. It will incur costs in later service/maintenance and I chose to do it. Can't expect the manufacturere to cover me buying a 747 and flying it like a Concorde

[Evil Ewok]

I think that the main point behind Nissan's idea of having a voided warranty when tracking is that this protects them from wrongful accusations that the car was not up to snuff. Sure, car makers can press on you that they are race worthy and that they support you to take the car and flaunt it around the track, but if you decidely do take that car to the environment there should be no reason for them to protect your car as if you were the factory backed race team. Why people are finding this quite wrong I don't entirely understand. Besides, there is racer insurance out there that you can pay for to protect yourself and your car when you are on the track. If you have the money to pay 70k + then you really shouldn't be complaining, and as it happens the majority of this website doesn't have enough money themselves for a ford fiesta, so no one really should be complaining about a car that is 60k dollars out of their range. I'll consider this next flame on behalf of my welcome party as this is my first post in a long ass time.

[Evil Ewok]

Originally Posted by TheOne

how bout this, wait to see if its true and not some blab lie from somebody that doesn't like the car, or its a prototype model.

It was a pre-release model so you never know.

[Kooper]

I've just thought of a potentially funny situation (assuming this is true):

TopGear and 5th Gear each do a show featuring the new! improved! GT-R. Straight after the show, Nissan sells the cars, each branded "as seen on TopGear" and "as seen on 5th Gear".

The catch?

No warranty.

[NSXType-R]

Originally Posted by Matra et Alpine

Makes sense when you see what the difference is to a car driven enthusiastically on the road and one driven on a trackday.
Engines have a limited time at peak revs. Items wear and stress more at the limits. Fully tined Mini 1340s had a couple of minutes at peak revs ... but that was enough for a half a season of rallying.
LOTS of complaints about Subarus because they AREN'T marketed with such an open warning. Guys who track them are regularly having to change diffs, clutches, gearboxes, driveshafts ... then try to claim against warranty coz it's only 4 months old !
As I see it they're just trying to make sure buyers know up front what all sensible knew already ..... if you buy a road car and take it to the track and emulate a race/rally team don't expect it to last. If you wanted a race/rally car and will drive it so then buy one.

Personally, when I did lots of trackdays I treated them the same as I do a competitive event. It will incur costs in later service/maintenance and I chose to do it. Can't expect the manufacturere to cover me buying a 747 and flying it like a Concorde

Originally Posted by Evil Ewok

I think that the main point behind Nissan's idea of having a voided warranty when tracking is that this protects them from wrongful accusations that the car was not up to snuff. Sure, car makers can press on you that they are race worthy and that they support you to take the car and flaunt it around the track, but if you decidely do take that car to the environment there should be no reason for them to protect your car as if you were the factory backed race team. Why people are finding this quite wrong I don't entirely understand. Besides, there is racer insurance out there that you can pay for to protect yourself and your car when you are on the track. If you have the money to pay 70k + then you really shouldn't be complaining, and as it happens the majority of this website doesn't have enough money themselves for a ford fiesta, so no one really should be complaining about a car that is 60k dollars out of their range. I'll consider this next flame on behalf of my welcome party as this is my first post in a long ass time.

Nice points made there.

Good to see you back, Evil Ewok!

Yeah, I think I remember from the Mitsubishi Evolution FQ-something series that if you race it or something it automatically voids the warranty.

Makes sense, what Evil Ewok and Matra said.

Who wants to make a sports car and have the owners hooning them around- for them to come back and say oh, I got a warranty, so I can screw up my car however I want.

Nissan's done the smarter thing by adding it to the nav system. All I see is that the company is covering its ass. Nothing wrong with that.

And to be serious, does the nav-system know every racetrack out there? I'm sure that it's gotta be incomplete to some extent. They don't survey every last square millimeter of the Earth for racetracks.

[Rockefella]

Originally Posted by NSXType-R

And to be serious, does the nav-system know every racetrack out there? I'm sure that it's gotta be incomplete to some extent. They don't survey every last square millimeter of the Earth for racetracks.

A modern GPS knows pretty much every street in a country. Every racetrack seems like a pretty feasible task.

[NSXType-R]

Originally Posted by Rockefella

A modern GPS knows pretty much every street in a country. Every racetrack seems like a pretty feasible task.

But not every GPS is updated unless you update it yourself.

Solution- Load an ancient GPS program into it. Problem solved.

[Waugh-terfall]

Solution - Build you own track

[charged]

Originally Posted by Waugh-terfall

Solution - Build you own track

The old CEO of Coca Cola Amitil built his own track in country NSW Australia




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