Why buy an SUV ??

[kitkat]

Originally Posted by Misho

they use them to tow hoes, not horses Matra !!

they are not hoes, they are ladies.

[Nigel]

I only had an hour, so I only read 3/4 of this thread for now, and pretty much all my points have been covered.
I think there is some confusion between the sport is Sport utility vehicle and the sport in sports car. An SUV is a utility to the sports that you do. It is made for hauling gear etc. A sports car is a car the makes driving a sport.
Also, you cant bring emission stadards into this for the following reasons: after a certain weight they stop testing vehicles, and they test based on parts per million, so if you burn twice as much gas, there will be twice the CO, NO, NO2, and HC pollutants.
No matter what anyone says though, luxury cars are the safest out there. The only reason SUVs are seen as the safest is they are heavier so the plow other cars. If you hit a wall in a SUV, you are no better off then in a compact car.

I will finish reading the thread tomorrow to make sure that I didnt repeat someone at the end of the second page.

[werty]

Originally Posted by kitkat

they are not hoes, they are ladies.

speaking of "ladies" what is up with that avatar Kitkat?

[Nigel]

Boats (mostly freighters, ferries, and cruise liners) Produce 4 times more emissions then land transportation. A large percentage of land transportion is shipping. SUVs, on a global scale, represent a small percentage of the problem. My problem with SUVs however, is the fact that they are unnecessary. One could say that driving a two seater car stripped of all emission reducing hardware is unnecessary and irresponsible, but we are not talking about me, we are talking about the global population.

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that most people who own SUVs use them to get only themselves to and from work. If someone is going to pick a car to take them to and from work, what is better? a 1047kg toyota MR2? or a 3247kg H2? an approximation can be made that the fuel consumption of a car is roughly porportional to the weight of the car. The H2 uses a humble 20L to drive 100km, whereas the mr2 sips 8L in 100km, which represents a roughly linear relationship. Just something to think about when you buy a vehicle, if you get a car you are being more environmentally responsible then if you buy a truck/SUV.

Whether or not there is an iminent oil shortage is a debatable fact, and it has been debated here already. Global warming is a reality, although it is debatable whether human activities such as driving SUVs has a major impact as 97% of carbon dioxide comes from the fido plancton. The issue that is a reality is the localization of emissions. oxides of nitrogen emissions (which my car makes more than its share of) creates photochemical smog when localized in areas with calm winds, hot temperatures, and direct sunlight. This is harmful to humans and other life, and is a direct cause of automobiles, and is not attrubuted to any other cause. Acid rain, in some areas caused by localized nitrate emissions (in an engine: N2 +O2 + heat -> 2NO; in the atmosphere: 2NO +O2 -> 2NO2; under certain conditions in the atmosphere, the most notable of which being high concentration due to localization as a result of rush-hour trafic and the like, 4N2O +2H2O + O2 -> 4HNO3, a strong acid) I am not going to go into the effects of acid rain, as Im sure you have all read/heard about them. How do you deal with a problem such as photochemical smog or acid rain? You have to be responsible with the creation of these emissions, and that means not commuting in rush-hour trafic in an SUV.

[Coventrysucks]

But you yourself said that the ammount of pollution that can be attributed to SUV's is, in the grand scheme of things, negligable. So it doesn't matter if you change to a car

The major problem with pollution from cars of course, is not the ammount of pollution an individual vehicle makes, but the concentration of those vehicles.
Cities are more likely to be affected by the pollutants you mentioned, than the shipping lanes of the Atlantic, because there is a greater number of vehicles in a city centre.

The cure to SUV's of course would be to put US gas prices up to the level of the UK.
50% of the SUV owner population would have a shock induced heart attack on their first fill up at the new prices, the rest would probably ditch their monster jeep and head straight to the nearest Honda dealerships.

The motor manufacturers would suddenly realise that producing large SUV's is a profitless exercise, and stop making them.

[KOT]

seriously! why get an SUV?
Well I mean they do have some advantages:
Ground clearance
Practical for families
Well thats it!!
But now lets see the downsides:
Dont look pimp
Polutin
Low performance
But really! Get a real nice lookin high performance car! BMW, Mercedes, Cadillac, or at least a pimp Ford. In a perfect world I would of course get a Firrari, prolly F550, or a Lambargini, but I'll prolly never have the money, so in a real world Id go for a BMW. Those things are long lasting, for one, and statistics show that ppl drivin BMW's have the most sex!!
So here's the advice: forget those big azz SUV's, get BMWs!

[crisis]

I owed Niko FX a couple of photos of me and my Cruiser from ages back. Noting really thrilling but it suitable for this thread anyhow. Beach and dune (Toyota hill) at Robe South east South Australia, Mountain in Flinders Ranges South Australia.

[crisis]

Flinders Ranges

[Homem de Gelo]

People can buy SUVS if they search for veichles that are comfortable and reasonably versatile, being fast and comfortable enough put them on the road and enjoy a nice trip, or to take them on some not so harsh off road paths. Not to mention the status symbol and the pimpness.

There are reasons to buy SUVs, but I wouldn't buy one. I'd rather buy a sedan.

[Homem de Gelo]

And speaking of safety, bad drivers will make any car dangerous for himself, the passengers and the pedestrians. Good drivers will make a SUV just as safe as anything else on the road.

[Niko_Fx]

Originally Posted by crisis

I owed Niko FX a couple of photos of me and my Cruiser from ages back.

Hell, your cruiser looks awesome.

Noting really thrilling but it suitable for this thread anyhow. Beach and dune (Toyota hill) at Robe South east South Australia, Mountain in Flinders Ranges South Australia.

Looks like a trip with a lot of action and beautiful sceneries

Thanks for the pics, post some more if you have!

EDIT: Regarding the thread question...

Yes, I would buy an SUV IF I had places to go such as Crisis' or if I lived in a country (or at least another state, cause here in Florida is not allowed) were I could place my SUV on the beach, open the trunk, put some music, beers and let the fun begin

Also if I had a store, market, some kind of business like that and had to carry boxes all the time... And I would probably get one too if I had a big family or something.

There's plenty of reasons to own an SUV.

[UK CARS]

Originally Posted by Niko_Fx

Hell, your cruiser looks awesome.



Looks like a trip with a lot of action and beautiful sceneries

Thanks for the pics, post some more if you have!

EDIT: Regarding the thread question...

Yes, I would buy an SUV IF I had places to go such as Crisis' or if I lived in a country (or at least another state, cause here in Florida is not allowed) were I could place my SUV on the beach, open the trunk, put some music, beers and let the fun begin

Also if I had a store, market, some kind of business like that and had to carry boxes all the time... And I would probably get one too if I had a big family or something.

There's plenty of reasons to own an SUV.

Good Lad

[KOT]

Originally Posted by kitkat

they are not hoes, they are ladies.

Well they look hoes to me )
I'd change ur avatar also... what up with it?

[KOT]

Well... all I kno is that SUV, which means sport utility vihicle does not have anything to do with sport. I mean really. think about it. Id say its shit utility vihicle. what so sport about SUV's? They do a really good job with poluting, they dont look anywhere near good, at least most of them dont. They are bulky, hard to drive, and what's so save about them?? They are probably even more dangerous than a honda civic or something. In a critical condition on the road, it will be much harder to avoid an accident. Even though they are not really expencive, the fuel cost will be enormous. So I'd personally rather get a BMW or a Mercedes, more expencive, but better performance, better lookin, more fuel efficient.

[mawi427]

i am very against people buying SUV's for around-the-town use. if you use it for off road purposes, however, i stand with u. my family owns a 1989 GMC suburban that we take hunting every year...it has been to northern wisconsin numerous times as well as nebraska, north dakota, and colorado.


p.s. i am against buying luxury SUV's such as the escalade navigator etc....y the hell not just buy a bmw or mercedes????