A work of pure genius! - Brilliant "Revetec" Engine

[wagga]

here we go again more crap and more time wasting same story and still no solution we have been holding on for year after year after year just change the director at this agm we really would be better off we must be six years over due and millions of dollars down the drain and still they are asking for more time and more money from the government Any body would think they have become over paid doll bloodgers i think there time must be up by now TIME FORE A CHANGE
hey chook pull your out of the directors ass as it must be hurting him by now and find your self a rooster

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Your finely crafted and stunningly succinct reply is somehow lacking in both spelling, grammar & punctuation.

But thanks for trying.

[wagga]

thats OK as long as you can understand it thats all that matters using American spell check the grammer is all mine i can teach you if you like it is not hard

[IBrake4Rainbows]

The words you have misspelt are the same in either version of the English language.

Furthermore, your previous post was in fact incredibly difficult to decipher due to the lack of proper punctuation and spelling. one wasn't entirely sure what you were saying, or where to take a pause.

If you are going to criticise an organisation for it's work than you had best come prepared with something better written and more thoroughly researched, otherwise you simply come off looking like a fool.

The Revetec engine is a part of our forums that we are quite protective of - mostly to try and stop incidents such as this - where someone from the outside of the project seeks to derail it.

So, unless you have anything constructive, positive or useful to say, I dare suggest you save the keystrokes.

[3yearsharehold]

"I haven't seen in the Media a mention of the 3-1 before, it's always described as a "Gift".

By Toyota's lack of excitement , I doubt they asked for it , so it was a gift.

"But a turboprop is a shaft drive jet, so not our market".

Sorry about that, got a little exited reading that this morning before a coffee.

Anyway good luck with Rudd meeting , put some super glue on your hand before shaking , so you have plenty of time to hold him to any deal .

[wagga]

I must thank you for your lecture and I do agree with you about my poor eduction it has been a big problem in my life since I left at 14 sob sob could please explain to me and some of us uneducated shareholder how do we make this company work as their is to many well educated people in this would including the revetec directors but when it comes to making money that eduction goes out the door so they put their hands up in the air and say we cannot do this any more so please give me more money and time and then they leave it to some of us poor dummy shareholders to pull them out of the sit again and again so if education really works go and have a good look at the share price and tell us What has gone wrong and please spare me that it will take more time and more money and if you want to go down the tube with theses directors then go but I for one will go down fighting and hopefully try and turn this company around with better director with fresh idea's and motivation so if you cannot see the writing on the wall about how revetec is going your really need and eduction in how a business work's so please read it as it is and thank for your input and I am not being sarcastic

[LotusLocost]

Those of you who claim to be shareholders in this company:
Please take this debate out of this forum right away! It has nothing to do with us outsiders, and I am sure it is only interesting for the involved. If you don't stop discussing the Revetec company structure and leadership in here, I will close this thread, and I will not permit you into this website again.

It's a shame to close this thread really, cause it has been a good discussion channel for those who believe, and those who have doubt about the technology behind the Revetec engine. And the debate and discussion have been hard and well backed up. Not cool of you two-three shareholders to ruin it. In the same turn, you actually let the public know how "bad" things are at Revetec, which also gives other potential investors no good reason to invest in the company. You are just ruing it for yourselves with this.

[Revetec Raptor]

Originally Posted by LotusLocost

Please take this debate out of this forum right away!

New shareholders forum, to keep this a Technical forum !!!

There is NOTHING "iffy" or "dubious" about the web site, it is a legal registered website !
It is an attempt to give shareholders a place to voice their Thoughts & Opinions, other than annoying people on this web site.
In fact there are links back to this site.

[Matra et Alpine]

LL, whilst threatening thread closure would remove the children's opportunity to mouth-off, it also would limit the chances of the rest of us from reading Brad's on-going inputs on the TECHNOLOGY.
Those who take this into shareholder/business bleats have already been warned numerous times in the thread. UCP moderation rules permit us to ban you ( you KNOW who you are ) for periods at a time so that you ( you know who you are! ) will not be able to contribute till you cool down. So please save us the hassle and stick to the guidelines we've given often in this thread. KEEP THE SHAREHOLDER BUSINESS COMMENTS OUT OF HERE.

[GTM]

Keep up the good work Brad. Nobody is more dedicated then you when it comes to developing Revetec into a successful engine technology. Pioneering this technology has been a huge acheivement, getting it to this stage is no mean feat. I know many of the trials and tribulations you have been through.

Brad has given many of his years to developing the Revetec technology, he has sunk his life into the Revetec technology. He has riden the ups and downs many people couldn't bear. The world would be a duller place without engineers like Brad developing new technologies.

Brad has our total support. We support the Revetec Technology.

[Revetec Raptor]

Interested parties would have noted that Revetec was removed from http://peswiki.com/index.php/Congres...:Complete_List
This is the peswiki BUMPED-OFF listing; http://peswiki.com/index.php/Congress:T100:Former
The reason for being bumped off, was the 50% better fuel efficiency claimed by Revetec was disproved by Orbital independent testing !
This may be the reason why many have shied away from Revetec technology.

Too many academics are chasing ultimate efficiency, which I suppose is ok for writing papers and going to conferences,

However, what should/would attract big investors, is the proving of low Vibration claims that are stated/speculated on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revetec.
Quote: "Due to controlled piston acceleration rates the CCE reduces engine vibration.[citation needed]"

[Matra et Alpine]

Revetec-Raptor ... where did you get your reason for them being "bumped" ?

As I understand the PesWiki, the NEC Top100 is a fluid list with ONLY the top 10 - by their published criterion - being retained in the list.
Items aren't "removed" , they are judged and voted on according to 10 criteria. If you are in the top 100 then you stay in the list. If not then you get "dumped". Given the highly controversial and speculative headline-grabbing solutions in the list it's no surprise that plain ICE-improvements will drop off fairly quickly

So please confirm your source for the reasons you gave.


... and after that, drop it. THe thread is here for techies, if you want business then raise it in another forum please

[revetec]

I do the best I can with the resources at hand. When I'm designing and building an engine I work about 16 hours a day. I do a huge amount of research when doing a project. I had a goal for the X4 to prove that our technology is the most efficient bottom end, which I have done. If anyone thinks this is an easy task, think again. If I was sitting around doing very little (or even a mediocre performance) in doing my job, there is no way we would even get close to 207g/(kW-h).

I can't really blame some shareholders who don't understand the work involved in this type of development, because it is not a common thing that the average person even has a slight exposure to.

What I can say is that look at the X4v2 engine in detail.

Estimate the time it takes for: Initial research into every part you can see in the models and engine pictures. Estimate the design times, stress analysis, modifications and machining and build times. Custom built manifolds etc. Finding and sourcing the correct ancillaries that fit the engine design such as alternator and water pump. If you know anything about engineering you may be able to do this.

Now look at fitting all the electronics, The custom wiring of all those sensors, engine control module, charging, starting and engine monitoring systems. Then the mounting on the dyno and customising cooling, exhaust etc. Then there is the programing of the ECU from scratch, ignition, injection and correction maps. The the engine is started and tuned over several weeks.

This is just a glimps into a six month period for two engineers. I'm not trying to justify my existence, just a blurb to show you what type of job I do. I do this all while also working on the running of the company. All that know me, know how hard I work and my dedication is no less than 100%.

It's disappointing that after all this dedication, hard work, the stress of testing and achieving the desired results, people who are ignorant of what we do and how hard it is to get the results needed for marketing our engine, spend five minutes of their time to have a go at me. Well if you are looking for your five minutes of fame, you have got it. Congratulations

Since the testing we have been conversing with several parties to get this project to the next stage (manufacture). Unfortunately as I have said before, the parties always request talks to be confidential. Shareholders should really try to be business savy and understand this. Just because there has been no announcement since the testing doesn't mean nothing is happening. This stage takes more time than to build an engine. Furthermore it also takes time to pitch and meet with the government which we have also been working on. You would also be aware that for quite a period of time prior to this week, I haven't visited this forum. This has been purely due to the fact I haven't had time to drop in. Luckily I have had a few spare mornings to drop in and reply and I'm quite happy to do it when time permits.

This is a technical forum and I try to adhere to the forum rules of not overly promoting our company rather than discussing technology.

Again I will extend the invitation to Wagga, Revetec Raptor, or any other shareholder to contact me directly to discuss any concerns you may have. To date, none of you have done so. I will not judge you from your online comments and will not be conflictive, so you wont come underfire from me if you are nervous about discussing any issues you may have.

Any shareholder with any issues please contact me direct, and let's get this forum back to what the Ultimatecarpage members really want, Technical Discussion.

Cheers
Brad

[Matra et Alpine]

CHeers Brad. Hopefully your polite reminder and our warning will keep the irrelvant (to us) parts out of here and you less hassled.

[CHOOK]

It does make one wonder whether some of these clowns are in fact shareholders or just idiotic fly-ins trying to destabilise Revetec's progress. Maybe that is why they haven't contacted Brad. Moderators please take note. You can delete those BS posts.

But there are quite a few long term shareholders here, one of which has actually signed a deal to get the engine in his trike, which support all actions taken by Revetec.