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fpv_gtho
12-16-2003, 07:56 PM
Good 'ol DJ's gone and done it.

source: drive.com.au

"Motorsport legend Dick Johnson is in the collectable performance car business with the BAII Falcon-based DJR High Performance 320.
The cars are built-to-order and available only through Dick Johnson Racing, and Johnson (pictured below) says the 320kW super Falcons are race-bred.

Bottom-line price depends on the options ordered but starting price if you're keen to park one of the DJR super Falcons in your garage is $90,000.

The DJR High Performance offshoot is a joint-venture between Dick Johnson Racing and Ford aftermarket specialist Herrod Motorsport, and the 320kW Falcons are available only through Johnson's race team.

Each customer car will be individually numbered and delivered only after Johnson himself has road-tested it.

On paper, the specification is impressive, too. The engine, suspension and -- significantly -- brakes are all said to be race-bred.

In fact, the brakes are said to be the largest on any Australian-made performance vehicle. Fronts are 365mm ventilated and slotted discs with Alcon six-piston monoblock calipers. Rears are equally impressive 343mm discs with four-piston calipers.

DJR High Performance 320s gets a specially-designed rear wing, exclusive 19-inch alloy wheels shod with Dunlop SP Sport 9000 tyres, and unique front and rear badging.

Internal engine, exhaust and computer control modifications are said to give the cars benchmark performance, and the suspension package is said to enhance the car's on-road performance without compromising ride quality.

Designed by DJR, the body kit -- including that big, mid-bonnet "shaker" -- is manufactured in Australia by C2R and made from injected moulded r-rim.

Each car's interior is retrimmed, too, and gets unique front and rear seats -- with DJR initials stitched into the head restraints -- sports steering wheel, Momo gear knob and DJR instrument panel.

"Finally being able to expand our horizons and move into the development of these cars is a real dream come true for me," V8Supercar and Australian Touring Car legend Johnson says.

"Ford's BA Falcon is the best thing they've ever built and has provided us with a great platform to develop something very exclusive and very special in answer to tremendous interest from our fans ... I am absolutely delighted with what we've achieved."

How about that, owning a 300kw+ muscle car for under $100K wchihc DJ himself has parked his arse in it and test driven it. I think their yearly sales of about 20 units are underated though

crisis
12-16-2003, 10:54 PM
Keep em coming. Hope HSV are watching. Dont like bonnet scoops and bulges much as I like the lines of the BA without them but thats only me. Im sure it will sell well. I wouldnt like to have a car with DJs signature on it either cause I think hes a tosser but Ford fans will no doubt think otherwise. Good numbers though.

HoldenHFV6
12-17-2003, 12:39 AM
Thats a good looking car. Not much power difference between that and a GTS but the Ford is heavier. If I was offered one I wouldn't say no.

fpv_gtho
12-17-2003, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by crisis
Keep em coming. Hope HSV are watching. Dont like bonnet scoops and bulges much as I like the lines of the BA without them but thats only me. Im sure it will sell well. I wouldnt like to have a car with DJs signature on it either cause I think hes a tosser but Ford fans will no doubt think otherwise. Good numbers though.

Well one of my teachers at school's a red blooded holden fan and reckons Peter Brock's a tosser but thats just opinion.

The GTS wouldnt have been the benchmark for this car, DJ wouldve just been looking for the most power out of the BOSS 260 using cost effective methods. His original target was 300kw anyway and hes planning a modified XR6T as well, probably to give the PWR300 some competition.

crisis
12-17-2003, 05:24 PM
I think Peter Brocks a tosser (and you know where my allegiances lay). A legend driver but a bit of a weirdo. The GTS may not have been a bencmark but its what it will be competing with in tests and arguments. And I hope it gets HSVs attention. Look at how they reacted to The GT. What, 260kw in your Clubsport not enough sir?, here try 285kw. Oh its all a matter of exhaust pipes, no really!!!!!!!

fpv_gtho
12-17-2003, 05:58 PM
I think anyone smart who will want to compare it to something will compare it to a CSV. Motor done a test between the XR8 Pursuit 250 ute against a CSV ute before, which kinda goes against what i just said, but to be able to compare levels of refinement, quality etc. you really need to compare aftermarket with aftermarket, showroom with showroom. If DJR thinks only 20 a year will sell then comparing it to HSV which sell 1000's a year is a bit harsh. The 30kw gains DJ got over a GT im guessing came from the full Herrod exhaust fitted, which could as you said catch HSV's attention to what could happen if Ford and FPV decided to fit full dual pipe systems on their V8's like Holden and HSV have recently done, despite Holden and HSV doing it for the better sound. The next step though for DJ is to get his modified XR6T on the streets and hopefully not rice it up

fpv_gtho
12-17-2003, 05:58 PM
And just for the record, i reckon Moffat's a tosser but DJ's mad

crisis
12-17-2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by fpv_gtho
I think anyone smart who will want to compare it to something will compare it to a CSV. Motor done a test between the XR8 Pursuit 250 ute against a CSV ute before, which kinda goes against what i just said, but to be able to compare levels of refinement, quality etc. you really need to compare aftermarket with aftermarket, showroom with showroom. If DJR thinks only 20 a year will sell then comparing it to HSV which sell 1000's a year is a bit harsh. The 30kw gains DJ got over a GT im guessing came from the full Herrod exhaust fitted, which could as you said catch HSV's attention to what could happen if Ford and FPV decided to fit full dual pipe systems on their V8's like Holden and HSV have recently done, despite Holden and HSV doing it for the better sound. The next step though for DJ is to get his modified XR6T on the streets and hopefully not rice it up
I get your point.

HoldenHFV6
12-18-2003, 12:05 AM
Is the 320Kw that the DJ car gets measured in DIN? Becasue if it is then it only has a little over 10Kw more power than a GTS.

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 12:15 AM
I wouldnt have a clue, he's developed the car with Herrod so i guess whatever he uses, DJ used. Maybe if i found a specifications sheet for the car i could tell you, but nothing of the sort has been released as yet. i also wanna find out the width of the rear wheels, as it looks as if the rear guards have been flared at least an inch right up to the windows skyline style

Falcon500
12-18-2003, 04:44 AM
Most herrod cars while being tuned quot RWHP but in this case i have my doubts. Im not a fan of the bonnet either but the reast of it has my attention.
Ive met peter brock and hes a snob I met allan moffat while he was doing a promotion and its obvious he didnt want to be there but he was friendly enough even though he obviously had the shits he greated each fan with a smile and related to stories and answerd queastions and stuff brocky didnt even mange that and paul radasich was much the same. but thats not the subject
I saw a small news peice on this car apprently there is a lot of intrest in this car and sales are expected to be much better then DJ anticipated but thats only what channel 10 news said.

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 05:00 AM
Alan Moffat strikes me as someone who doesnt race for any real reason, doesnt have any allegiencies and is just there for the drive. he doesnt really seem that keen on anything publicity wise and id say he didnt mean to become a house hold name during the 70's. brock and johnson on the other hand, theyve become dedicated holden/ford drivers and are known for it. they dont just drive for the fun of it, but to keep the category alive and to make the other work harder the following season etc.

Falcon500
12-18-2003, 05:17 AM
Well allan moffat worked for a ford race team in america for nothing! at the start of his career and raced for ford in the 60s till the 80s when he got payed very big money from mazda and won the championship and came 2nd at bathurst and apprently he wasnt a natural driver as brocky and he said himself i had to work damn hard to be this good it doesnt come natural to me. And when you see the footage of when his cars combusted he didnt look like he was having fun he took it very seriously and after his stint with mazda he went away to establish his own ford team in 84-93 so thats not a bad track record. He did have a stint over seas in a holden with brokc and did race one bathurst with brock.

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 05:21 AM
well alot of that goes against how i see him. Ive heard rumours that whenever things werent going right hed always blame the car, kinda like some of the perceptions of Mark Skaife floating around now

Falcon500
12-18-2003, 05:32 AM
Well my oldman says the same thing about john bowe he said all moffat did was jump around a bit and face the camera a lot of his problems did come from things beyon his controll though like the rocker arms were a huge problem when they wernt aloud to use roller rockers. He did winge a bit ill give you that and he was rreknown for voiceing his views on other drivers.

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 05:37 AM
well if John Bowe's like that also, then i guess hes a perfect match for Brad Jones.

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 05:52 AM
i found this on a thread about the car over at ford australia forums, and is sourced from GoAuto:

DICK Johnson Racing has launched a hot new Falcon it claims will become Australia’s most exclusive high performance road car.

Dubbed the DJR High Performance 320, the wildest production Falcon available is the result of a joint-venture between high-profile Ford tuning house Herrod Motorsport and Australia’s oldest professional touring car team.

Available only from the Aussie touring car legend's race team, the BA Falcon-based HP320 features a race-bred 320kW V8 and sport-tuned chassis, plus body, trim and equipment enhancements.

Each vehicle will be built to order, individually numbered and personally road tested by the five-times touring car champion.

“Finally being able to expand our horizons and move into the development of these cars is a real dream come true for me,” said Dick Johnson in a press release.

“Ford’s BA Falcon is the best thing they’ve ever built and has provided us with a great platform to develop something very exclusive and very special in answer to tremendous interest from our fans. I am absolutely delighted with what we’ve achieved.”

As the picture shows, HP320 wears a specific rear wing, staggered-width 19-inch BBS Motorsport alloys with 245/35-section front and 285/30-section rear Dunlop SP Sport 9000 tyres and a unique front bumper with wide front airdam and a racy lower chin-insert.

Of course there’s the obligatory front and rear “DJR 320” badging, but perhaps the most distinctive design element is the revised bonnet, which features a black and silver-painted insert within the standard XR8 and GT bonnet bulge.

Bodywork was designed by DJR and manufactured by UP Industries under its C2R brand, using R-RIM (Reinforced Reactive Injection Moulding) plastic.

Under the bonnet is where the HP320 action is really at. Based on Ford’s new 5.4-litre quad cam V8, the Herrod-tweaked engine produces a claimed 320kW (up 60kW on XR8 and 30kW on the FPV GT) and maximum torque of 540Nm (up 40Nm on XR8 and 20Nm on GT).

The power and torque boost comes from DJR camshafts, high-flow dual exhaust system with twin tailpipes, cold-air intake and engine control unit modifications.

Transmission choices remain Falcon’s standard four-speed sequential shift auto or five-speed manual with DJR “sure-shift” gearshift assembly.

HP320 also features an enhanced sports suspension package comprising adjustable Koni dampers front and rear, and special-rate progressive coil springs with lowered ride height, while unique new brakes are said to be the largest fitted to any Australian-made performance car.

They comprise 365x35mm slotted and ventilated front discs with six-piston Alcon monoblock callipers, plus 343x28mm rear discs with four-piston callipers and braided brake lines.

For a retail price starting around $90,000 – about a $20,000 premium on FPV’s range-topping GT-P - HP320 buyers also get a completely retrimmed and colour-coded interior, which also includes unique front and rear seats, sports steering wheel, Momo gearknob, DJR instruments and Premium six-CD sound system.

Options include a sunroof and DVD satellite-navigation with TV.

DJR will offer a warranty for its modified components, with Ford’s three-year/100,000km factory warranty remaining intact for the remaining 90 per cent of the vehicle.

Asked how may HP320s DJR expects to sell, general manager Steve Chalker said: “As many as we can."


i found some more pics to come as well, all in black, of the car on the road

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 05:53 AM
arse of the car:

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 05:55 AM
whoops, here it is, im in too much of a rush to get the pics posted:

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 05:59 AM
a better view of the new rear bumper and quad tip exhaust:

Falcon500
12-18-2003, 06:04 AM
Well i like it i wonder if the same kind ofmods will be nest on thelist for the gt?

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 06:10 AM
im pretty impressed by whats done to the car, when i found those 3 pics over at ford australia forums, the idea of a lowrider instantly shot into my head. i dont think a GT version is planned as yet though. im surprised they went for a full dual pipe exhaust though, Rob Herrod reckons his 3 inch single pipe is better than the twin 2.5 inch system he offers. theres still more left in the engine such as GT mods (10.5 compression, extra valve lift, lighter internals). when you consider how close the new BA LWB and SWB cars look, i reckon FPV really need to consider bringing back the TL50 (renamed of course). the G220 just doesnt cut it when its the standard engine in it

Falcon500
12-18-2003, 06:24 AM
Well the g220 is aimed at a fairly diffrent catigory too the Te50. I think all they need to do is improve on the GT eg better exaust 6 speed atos man amnuals and few other minor mods.

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 06:33 AM
well when i said the G220 doesnt cut it, i really shouldve said, that theres a market out there that neither the GT-P nor G220 reaches. people wanting heaps and heaps of luxury, and a decent donk to move it all at a bit of a pace. the TL50 sold maybe 20 units in its 3 or so year life so its no wonder Ford is being coy about returning to that market, but the car was just a victim of the AU's styling

Falcon500
12-18-2003, 06:36 AM
Well fords dominating the luxuary market this time around and they were apprently winning with the au? They sell in so small volumes its not funny you almost have to wonder why they boher sometimes.

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 06:45 AM
well i wouldnt go as far as to say theyre dominating, theyve got a strong sales position but theyre still behind the 8 ball aka holden. the BA is a better car than the VY, but the commodores been no.1 for so long now, its going to take at least half as long as what holden were #1 straight, of strong market presence from Ford, for there to be a serious chance of Ford holding only #1 for more than a month

crisis
12-18-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by fpv_gtho
arse of the car:
Nice arse.

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by fpv_gtho
As the picture shows, HP320 wears a specific rear wing, staggered-width 19-inch BBS Motorsport alloys with 245/35-section front and 285/30-section rear Dunlop SP Sport 9000 tyres and a unique front bumper with wide front airdam and a racy lower chin-insert.

those are pretty FAT rear tires, hopefully theyre effective in giving it a beeter launch, something the GT really suffers at. DJ mustve had fun flaring the rear guards to fit them in, you can see it better on the blood orange pic where theres more glare then on the silhouette pic

fpv_gtho
12-18-2003, 06:28 PM
Source: www.djr.com.au

Model: Ford Falcon BA

Engine: 5.4 litre Ford V8 with DJR camshafts, high-flow dual exhaust and cold-air intake. 2 x dual exhaust pipes.

Maximum power: 320kW

Maximum torque: 540 Nm

Transmission: 5-speed manual with DJR sure-shift gear shift assembly 4-speed Automatic

Suspension: Adjustable Koni dampers front & rear, special-rate progressive coil springs, lowered ride height

Brakes:
Front: 365 x 35mm with Alcon 6 piston monoblock calipers
Rear: 343 x 28mm with Alcon 4 piston calipers Braided brake lines front and rear, Shell Helix brake fluid

Wheels: 19in DJR - BBS Motorsport alloys

Tyres: Dunlop SP Sport 9000
Front: 245/35 19
Rear: 285/30 19

Equipment: Injected moulded r-rim DJR body enhancement kit, Ford premium steering wheel, Momo gear knob, Rear wing, DJR instrument fascia, Premium sound, six-stack CD player, Unique DJR 320 badging, Specially designed DJR front and rear leather trimmed seats - colour code to suit vehicle Options: TV, DVD, Satellite navigation, Sunroof

Falcon500
12-19-2003, 02:35 AM
Whats this sure shift thing?
And the fairlane and other sales have been at like 360 odd sales and thats continuing domitation of the sector according to performace ford.

fpv_gtho
12-19-2003, 02:41 AM
i think 360 sales would be the most its ever gotten, its still about 50 sales behind the statesman.

i think that sure shift thing is just something associated with the spring loading of the gearstick to make it easier to select gears, and not do what some journo did to the porsche carrera GT, where at 160km/h, they selected 2nd rather than 4th and the engine momentarily did about 14,000rpm before the guy dumped the clutch. it blew the titanium block

Falcon500
12-19-2003, 04:05 AM
Well that just proves most jurnos arnt exbert drivers. but people do make mistakes sounds like a greatidea.

fpv_gtho
12-19-2003, 04:14 AM
well i was more surprised that such a thing cracked a titanium block. if it were alluminium, sure id believe it, cast iron? maybe, but titanium is so much stronger than both of them, it leaves you asking the stresses the carrera GT's engine is under. well thats one of 2 crashes a journo's had in a GT, the other one was someone wrote one off by spinning into a pole. because of them, wheels kept getting knocked back for a test drive

Falcon500
12-19-2003, 05:53 AM
Its still 14,000 rpm that f1 territory there the engine might be built too take a lot of stress but it seems that might be a bit too much and maybey (more then likely) the engine is probly a little overstresstedive sen a 70s volvo go to 10,000 rpm once and it dropped a valve.
Wheels dont have the best record for driving cars and comming back wit no damge ill refer you to the time they crashed a lamborgini diablo or the fiat that ended up on its roof.

fpv_gtho
12-19-2003, 05:57 AM
ahh, Robbo's classic crash with an unregistered car, in a car he wasnt allowed in, in an area where he wasnt supposed to be in. the italian police when they arrived, agreed that it was a lambo test driver behind the wheel, not robbo, the accident occured several KM's some direction and it happened a couple of days ago. it got wheels their front cover though "we drive diablo......and crash"

SHAKER
01-03-2004, 09:24 PM
i was interested to read that dick johnson choose the v8 over the t6 cause he didnt think the internals could cope with 320kw, and he also said that a v8 would always sound better than a 6, from what i hear the t6 is a sweet sounding machine.....if it wasnt for the bulge in the xr8 id prob be an even xr6t fan....and apparently theres no ford warranty on the car, its all under djr and herrod

fpv_gtho
01-03-2004, 09:27 PM
hes still got a 320kw XR6T planned though. i was riding my bike outside my local pool one night and this XR6T was outfront dropping someone off and when it took off, no one would believe it was a 6, it sounded like a fairly smooth V8 or something

SHAKER
01-03-2004, 09:53 PM
i actually heard a xr6t with a blow off valve a week or so ago.....its odd seeing a big falc making a noise like that ...but gee im suprised that in the local paper yesterday the said the commodore was still the best selling family car! Incorparating utes in the equation,are ford sales ahead of the commodore?.....every second new car on the streets seems to be a ba falc or an xr falcon, where i live!

fpv_gtho
01-03-2004, 09:59 PM
last i saw holden have jumped back out a head by a small margin, and their ute sales thanks to the crewman were slightly ahead of fords. ive been seeing heaps of BA's around as well, moreso than VY's

SHAKER
01-03-2004, 10:17 PM
well ive only seen about 3 crewmans.i havent seen any rtvs or whatever ford are calling them...i think most of the commy sales are fleet sales anyway....they look hidiuos

fpv_gtho
01-03-2004, 10:20 PM
fleets would play a big part, plus ford trying to stop selling cars to taxi fleets which would cost sales. i think the fleets also rather the VY because the series1 at least was about $3K cheaper because of no aircon (which was only about a $2K option) and i'd say theyre buying up series 2 cars and dont really care about them being more

SHAKER
01-03-2004, 10:52 PM
why are they trying to stop selling them to taxi companies?thats suicide isnt it.the taxi drivers prefer the falcons cause theyre more reliable .......ive asked a few cabbies and most of them confirm to that

fpv_gtho
01-04-2004, 01:28 AM
well ford said the taxi image is something thats costing them sales to holden as they head more towards the police and ford are aiming that way now. with more falcons as cops now, i guess its gunna be harder to outrun them lol, but they also want to stop producing falcons in the yellow taxi colour so that theres more space on the colour palette, despite all the falcon taxi's ive seen beeing white

SHAKER
01-04-2004, 02:16 AM
well why dont they produce a special taxi pack for the cabbies(as they have been doing for years) and produce cars for the cops aswell....in adelaide all taxis have to be white by law.....that laws been in for a few years now.

Falcon500
01-04-2004, 03:34 AM
Well all i see here are AUand some EL taxies but i see more BAs then VYs now theyVYs outnumberd them before but now theior every where and nearly all of them XR6s at work i sawoneof them acid geen GTs and working near a ford dealer does have a few advantages also :) and the holden dealers allright tovisit sometimes (of course the secretiery at the holdendealers more of an attraction the the cars :D )

SHAKER
01-04-2004, 03:39 AM
well there are many BAGTs getting around here, i atleast see a couple a day, and xr6s well there everywhere. i think you should lure the secutury to where you work falc lol

Falcon500
01-04-2004, 04:05 AM
Well at work a i see a fewpass by and aroudn home isee 2 frequently.
As forthe screitery i have my doubts there i went for a job there and coverd up my ford t-shirt by wearing a jumper on a 35 degree day so iwasstanding there sweating and she gaveme one ofthe weirdest looks :D

SHAKER
01-04-2004, 06:20 AM
well i guess you didnt get a job there then =P

fpv_gtho
01-04-2004, 06:52 AM
i heard somewhere theyre being reluctnat in selling the taxi pack on the sedan and rather sell it on the wagon, plus now that theres no dual fuel falcon straight from the factory the taxi companies are being more reluctant in getting falcons

Falcon500
01-12-2004, 03:34 AM
Nio i got an interview and everything it went quite well too. The job was filled untillmarch through some nephew of an owner untillhis semester starts at uni. They still said theyll ring me when the job clears. All it was was anawkward moment with the secritery ;)

crisis
01-12-2004, 04:59 PM
i think most of the commy sales are fleet sales anyway....
You think! How about some proof.

fpv_gtho
01-12-2004, 07:12 PM
well know that fords trying to pull out of the taxi market, holden would be selling slightly more fleets than ford i'd say, with most of the difference probably with the police, although the NSW police have just agreed to buy up a batch of XR6T's to replace the XR8's and some SS's in the city. rural areas theyre thinking of keeping the V8's

SHAKER
01-13-2004, 06:47 AM
You think! How about some proof.
well i know all the fleet cars for "reece" plumbing are being changed to commodores, because of there lower running costs.

fpv_gtho
01-13-2004, 06:51 AM
lower running costs are debateable by how you drive the car, but one things clear and thats the falcons got the lowest repair costs

SHAKER
01-13-2004, 06:54 AM
being a heavier car with a bigger engine, youd expect it to be more expensive to run, and when you add up the costs with aprox 300 cars over 1 year, itll be the determining factor.

fpv_gtho
01-13-2004, 06:58 AM
well brake wear and fuel consumption would be the biggest hit there, but im sure 300 cars running every year wouldnt experience no crashes

crisis
01-13-2004, 04:41 PM
well i know all the fleet cars for "reece" plumbing are being changed to commodores, because of there lower running costs.
Well thats one company. As far as cheaper running costs go , Im sure the current opinion of the Ford camp on this thread is that Fords are more reliable. How then would Holdens be cheaper to run when they supposedly break down all the time.

SHAKER
01-13-2004, 06:42 PM
well it is one company, cars are as reliable as they get treated, if they get thrashed and never get serviced, theyre gonna break down

fpv_gtho
01-13-2004, 08:30 PM
well then it really comes down to how reece trat the cars and manage them, how close an eye they keep on them and how stingy they get about keeping them running

SHAKER
01-13-2004, 09:12 PM
its upto each individual branch to organise services and get things repaired if they notice any things going wrong with them. Thye very rarely get thrashed.

fpv_gtho
01-14-2004, 12:41 AM
not to mention its up to workers to report anything wrong with the cars. my dad thrashes his one tonner he uses for work, and complains about the fuel consumption

Falcon500
01-15-2004, 04:27 AM
Well we sell BMWs and despite theirclaimed reliability if theymiss a service or 2 you wont believe the cost of replacemnt parts...some people traded these cars in and bought anotherused one which will get much the same treatment and so the cycle begins again. Its all down to the owners and how they treat their cars treat it good it usually treats you good back...treat it like an ex wife and problems will turn up in the worst situations.

fpv_gtho
01-15-2004, 04:48 AM
well that just goes to show how desperate manufactueres are getting when it comes to getting cars serviced at their dealerships. ive got a solution there: MAKE IT CHEAPER!! i know my mums camry after the first couple of services which were about $200, they went up about $400. she started taking it to kmart tye and auto and they were asking around $100 for a basic service which was all it needed plus brake changes which were about $50-$100 on top of that

SHAKER
01-15-2004, 07:16 AM
well thats how the dealers make theyre money, A workmate of mine bought a hyundai excel, hes had it for 3 years and he hasnt even clocked up 10000 kms yet and at his last service they slugged him 600 dollars.In that time he has gone through 3 batteries aswell.....but thats cause he only drives the thing about 10 km a day if that.

crisis
01-15-2004, 04:24 PM
A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing, but no knowledge can cost you a fortune. If you know a bit about cars you can sometimes see when you are being fleeced. Even if you are not sure you should question them and ask why and what is the benefit or consequence of doing, or not doing what they say. You can also phone for an alternative quote or take your car somewhere else for a second opinion. My brother in law owns a service centre and I am lucky I can use him. I also hear many stories of how people have come to him after being ripped off by dealers or other service centres. He has made his reputation by being honest with people and not ripping them off. Its pretty basic really.

SHAKER
01-15-2004, 07:08 PM
yeah well ive been bitten once before by a enginereconditioner/mechanic...he was spose to recondition my engine and charged me 4000 dollars for doing so at the same time he decided to put an original radiator back on the car as he said the bigger radiator which was of a v8 commodore wasnt adequate enough, when i got the car back he had put a radiator from a 6 cylinder 1966 falcon in it., naturally it overheated on the way home then later we stripped the engine and found out all he had done was put new rings in the motor.....that was 10 years ago and yes i do hold a grudge, i wont name the place but 90% of places are shonks out there, you cant trust anyone, theyre all on it for the money.

fpv_gtho
01-15-2004, 08:38 PM
well you would think that unless you gave him specific instruction to remove the radiator you could take legal action against him. i think the worst service my mums had was where she was supposed to pay about $350 to get the oil changed, air filter changed, oil filter changed, i dont think she was supposed to get new tires but there was just other basic stuff like new brake pads and i think they were also supposed to see whether the ecu needed reconfiguring or whatever they do to it. they ended up ringing my mum up saying they needed to machine the brake rotors which was gunna cost her another $250 or so. when my mum got the bill back, i think they charged something like $50 just to take the brake pads off

crisis
01-15-2004, 10:36 PM
yeah well ive been bitten once before by a enginereconditioner/mechanic...he was spose to recondition my engine and charged me 4000 dollars for doing so at the same time he decided to put an original radiator back on the car as he said the bigger radiator which was of a v8 commodore wasnt adequate enough, when i got the car back he had put a radiator from a 6 cylinder 1966 falcon in it., naturally it overheated on the way home then later we stripped the engine and found out all he had done was put new rings in the motor.....that was 10 years ago and yes i do hold a grudge, i wont name the place but 90% of places are shonks out there, you cant trust anyone, theyre all on it for the money.
That guys a ****in animal and you should name him. I was listening to some dipshit in the pub last night chatting up this piece and trying to impress her with his automotive knowledge. He was older than me and a big fat wanker. They were talking about fixing the engine in her car by the sound of it and he was trying to tell her how Nissans were expensive to repair. He rekoned that it would cost her $10000 for parts alone and if she needed it reconditioned it wouldbe around $25000. Thats some motor. Thats also the kind of advice that is dangerous for the ignorant.

fpv_gtho
01-15-2004, 10:42 PM
i think thats a side of you we havent seen yet crisis

SHAKER
01-15-2004, 11:49 PM
yeah well i cant name him cause anyone could name a company and bad mouth them on the net when theyve not done anything wrong, so i dont want to get into trouble....just incase he decides to take legal action if he reads these threads...which is highly unlikely but you never know.but what i said was 100% true.

fpv_gtho
01-16-2004, 03:15 AM
well i'd like to see the guy try and take legal action. the whole idea about privacy on the internet came up when pato before the sydney motor show started trying to reveal stuff about the coupe4. as much as we pressured him into telling more, he kept on that if he got found out legal action could be taken against him cause he'd signed a contract binding him from saying anything

Falcon500
01-16-2004, 08:00 AM
Well the privacy act stipulates that your personal details can only be given with out your permtyion if a court intervention takes place. highly unlikely there is also a web site called not good enough you can put his name there and let then take the brunt of any legal action.
And my old man said he one pulled apart a so called rebuilt motor an foung only the pistons were new ! some peo[ple dobshonky work and need to be revaealed.
PS i just cme back from the pub so if im raveing please excuse that.

fpv_gtho
01-16-2004, 09:29 PM
well honestly, what would the guy get you for, but admittedly people sue others for bugger all these days and usually end up winning with rediculous cash settlements and the likes so i understand shakers concern, but the guys still getting away wtih ripping you off and he shouldnt

Falcon500
01-17-2004, 04:32 AM
Well the son of the owner at work said to me whilei was guernying a vectra and doing the windows whilei had shade "i dont know what kind of ****ing idiot you are but you should of been back there ages ago" apprently i could of sued him for verbal abuse but rather then sue him id just think that was uncalled for and do what i was told it would have to be very constant or very serious to get me to sue.
And it remionds m of doctor Katz the phsychartist they used to haveon SBS "We used to make lotsof money when we were kids we usedto shovel peoples yards when it was snowing and we "ACCIDENTLY" fell overand sued them"

fpv_gtho
01-17-2004, 04:42 AM
dr katz, is that just a short name for DR karl kruzlniski, the guy always going on about microsleeps?

Falcon500
01-17-2004, 06:00 AM
DR Katz isdoctors kats he muchlikesouth park (samre creators)is done in the most shocking animation and is really quite a funny shoe i like it.

fpv_gtho
01-17-2004, 09:35 AM
lol, shows how much i watch the SBS then if i got them to muddled up, aw well

Falcon500
01-17-2004, 10:19 PM
Late night SBS is good for a laugh one of the dudesmy uncle worksfor was whatching it and they had a saucy scene and his wife called out from the bedroom "What are you whatching?" he stumbled and went "The soccer" "I didnt know they had violin music in the soccer" :D

fpv_gtho
01-18-2004, 07:26 AM
lol, i was gunna say, late night SBS isnt yuor average sports or comedy viewing

Falcon500
01-19-2004, 04:06 AM
lol, i was gunna say, late night SBS isnt yuor average sports or comedy viewing thatsa true statement :D and usually if its not showing flesh it s a tiwsted movie orone of then tortureous japense game show (their great viewing i love tekeshis castle :cool: )

fpv_gtho
01-19-2004, 04:12 AM
yeah well how much of ths stuff's in english, only the subtitles lol

Falcon500
01-22-2004, 06:01 AM
wellll ohhhhhh and ahhhhhhh which they contantly say with the content doesnt needsubtitels :D lol
funny how they show cultured car adds on sbs when in general it has the culture of a playboy mag or the culture of soth park for example.

fpv_gtho
01-22-2004, 06:18 AM
well honestly i never watch SBS, all that i hear about it is either from friends or its just stuff people generally know about the channel

crisis
01-22-2004, 05:48 PM
Well you boys missed a pearler last Friday on SBS called Rock Bitch about a rock band of women who perform naked complete with live sex acts on stage and live in a commune together that worships sex. Their music was shit however. ( Im not sure the point of that last statement).

fpv_gtho
01-22-2004, 07:05 PM
well i never get the TV guide so i never know whats on, plusi got optus TV so i never think of watching SBS. one of my friends at school though has a camera phone that you can watch TV on and hes said that he watches late night ABC and SBS, although i think thats all he can get on it

Falcon500
01-23-2004, 04:42 PM
My uncle tell us of a few he sees on it and my god some of its tiwsted/raunchy and simmilar lol
And as for pay tv id only really want the sport everything else gets dull after a while.

Nildo
01-23-2004, 06:19 PM
Don't know where this page has gotten to, I really just wanted to write about the DJR falcon. I think it is a great idea, but the pricing is a bit much. I could buy an XR8, supercharge it, modify all the brakes, suspension etc on it, and even buy some aluminium body parts to take out a little weight for $90 k. I mean you can do serious stuff to a car with the $35000 an XR8 leaves you with from 90. I may be missing the point (Dick Johnson test drives each one?) but this is just how I look at it. Any thoughts?

PS SBS porn has really gone down hill in the last couple of years, as bleeding hearts have complained about what they play. It's a shame, as SBS pushed the Australian TV envelope.

PPS Dr Katz Professional Therapist is a God, A GOD I TELL YOU!!! Oh dear, I need a rest now.

SHAKER
01-23-2004, 07:31 PM
,for another 20000 dollars u can buy a gt falcon.

fpv_gtho
01-24-2004, 01:28 AM
i can see your point there Nildo, but just remember hes got to ask a bit high early so all the money spent on it gets paid off. after he sells 20 of them he'll more than likely lower the price and even then at that point all profits go to the team. i think hes done some rear bodywork changes as well to house the 285's on the back as the stock setup i think will only accomodate 245's or 255's at the most because of the control blade meaning you have to move the rear wheels out and flare the arches. for $66K i can get a 700hp XR8 but thats not on the road and i'd probably end up spending more on internal mods, as its a 12psi vortec V2 supercharger kit with intercooler on a standard XR8. at least when wheels tested the DJR HP320 they gave the build of the car credit rather than say it was worse than stock