2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo

[fastautos]

That's right, Saleen has introduced a 750-hp twin-turbo version of the S7. More info:

http://www.fast-autos.net/saleen/saleens7tt.html

[Spastik_Roach]

Tw-tw-tw-twin t-tturbo? 7-77-7-750hp?

[Egg Nog]

Woah! Is that really a factory option now?

How the hell did this manage to slip under radar?

[fastautos]

Saleen must have kept it pretty quiet. They just introduced the car this afternoon at L.A.

[SL500]

hey Drew,whats happened to the fastcarforum?

[taz_rocks_miami]

0-60 in 2.8 secs :eek: I'd love the Stig to get a crack at it, fastest car ever on the Top Gear test track?? :confused: Could it top the McLaren FI's 240 MPH top speed? Maybe :)

[fpv_gtho]

Surprising that theres no intercoolers tucked in there, not even a water to air unit. Otherwise pretty damn impressive

[shockwaveracing]

That's right, Saleen has introduced a 750-hp twin-turbo version of the S7. More info:

http://www.fast-autos.net/saleen/saleens7tt.html




someone has to post these in a higher res...

[Sweeney921]

dear god! this is amazing!

[Blitz_]

hell yer, go team america ( not the puppets )

[F1_Master]

Proof Americans can build a supercar just as good and even better than some countries.

[fpv_gtho]

Its really only proof that Saleen can. If someone else made an equally impressive supercar from the US, then it'd be proof

[CdocZ]

now THIS is what a saleen needs! this was a GOOD DECISION! wow! now, lets see if italy and germany can now keep up anymore! :p

[nopassn]

Surprising that theres no intercoolers tucked in there, not even a water to air unit. Otherwise pretty damn impressive

I was just thinking the same thing... odd that they've got it run straight out of the snails and in to the intake... no air cooler of any kind in there... too bad - but still hella sweet.

[clutch-monkey]

now THIS is what a saleen needs! this was a GOOD DECISION! wow! now, lets see if italy and germany can now keep up anymore! :p

i'm sure they can bolt turbos onto their cars too :)

[fpv_gtho]

Well not that long ago i saw this turbo kit for the Pontiac GTO that had a single turbo behind the left rear wheel, so like theres 8 metres of turbo piping to and from the engine, and they claimed there was no need for an intercooler as there was minimul heat from the engine affecting the airflow. Perhaps theres a similar thing going on here, with a far bit of piping on the S7, perhaps theres sufficient air flowing around the engine to cool it enough

[nopassn]

Well not that long ago i saw this turbo kit for the Pontiac GTO that had a single turbo behind the left rear wheel, so like theres 8 metres of turbo piping to and from the engine, and they claimed there was no need for an intercooler as there was minimul heat from the engine affecting the airflow. Perhaps theres a similar thing going on here, with a far bit of piping on the S7, perhaps theres sufficient air flowing around the engine to cool it enough

I don't care if you plumb the thing from the trunk back to the front - the exhaust used to drive the intake side of the turbo get's hella hot and heats the intake side of the turbo and the air quite a bit... if you're going to get the "free power" with a turbo, you might as well slap an IC of some sort on it... sure they're getting added intake pressure, but they'd be able to get even more power from cooler, higher intake pressure...

but who am I to say... 750 horse is QUITE substantial...

[Slicks]

Drew! What happened to FCF?!?!?!?!


Its really only proof that Saleen can. If someone else made an equally impressive supercar from the US, then it'd be proof
http://www.fast-autos.net/ssc/sscsc8t.html

hehe, best part is both are using OHV engines...

theres also this thing
http://www.fast-autos.net/ffr/ffrmulsanne.html
Uses the LS6

EDIT: oh yeah, cant wait until this gets put up against the Enzo, I have a feeling the ferrari guys are going to go home whining "ferraris arnt about track times bla bla bla." :cool:

EDIT again. How silly of me, I forget Mosler...
http://www.fast-autos.net/mosler/mosler.html

[pAinTrAin]

So who wants to buy me one of them beasts?


:D

[Esperante]

Now we can truly begin to compare the Enzo to Saleen. :D

[CdocZ]

lol, like we couldnt before? VERY close acceleration times, both equally fast, and both handle.......not alot like each other but pretty closely. now this new saleen? oh god!

[megotmea7]

Surprising that theres no intercoolers tucked in there, not even a water to air unit. Otherwise pretty damn impressive
for the boost their running(5.5 psi). intercoolers woudnt provide much power. their probly using highly efficient turbo's and at such a low pressure heat isnt really a problem. if they were running like 15psi then they would need intercoolers to run on pump gas. and they would be making well over 1200hp as well...

and about the ferrari comparison... "enzo"? whats an "enzo"? haha!

[SaleenRunner04]

!!! Twin-Turbo 750 HP !!! 2.8 0-60 times!! There is no comparison. Saleen S7 will out perform anything that gets thrown and it. wait scratch that . . . it will SLAUGHTER ANYTHING that the competition throws at it . . . Cant wait to go see it at the LA Auto show this weekend!!

[Spastik_Roach]

Enzo will probably beat it round a track. But still very much kick ass.

*ducks*

[RS6]

Proof Americans can build a supercar just as good and even better than some countries.

What, just because it is faster and more powerful than all the opposition?

[aNOBLEman]

One word: SWEEEET!

[Coventrysucks]

2.8 0-60 times!! There is no comparison. it will SLAUGHTER ANYTHING that the competition throws at it

Ultima GTR 0-60 2.7secs

Is turbocharging the best solution?

Saleen stick turbos on to beat everyone else.
Everyone else sticks turbos on and are back in front.

[VtecMini]

(Top Gear laps)

Dodge Viper SRT-10 (~500bhp) - 1 Minute, 28.5 seconds
BMW M3 CSL (~360bhp) - 1 Minute, 28 seconds

Chevrolet Corvette (~400bhp) - 1 Minute, 26.8 seconds
Lotus Exige S2 (~190bhp) - 1 Minute, 26.4 seconds

Lambourghini Murcielago (~580bhp) - 1 minute, 23.7 seconds
Porsche GT3 RS (~400bhp) - 1 minute, 22.3 seconds

Porsche Carrera GT (~610bhp) - 1 minute, 19.8 seconds
Ariel Atom 2 (~300bhp) - 1 Minute, 19.5 seconds

Big numbers don't mean fast laps.

(Anyone pointing out that the latter cars are lighter, more track orientated cars will get a kick up the arse for pointing out the blatently obvious, we're just talking about power.)

[hotwheels]

wow, that would be the ultimatecar for me..........hotwheels

[PsychoChimp22]

Weak, wait until they get a turbo on each cylinder, i have a video of this muscle car owner (forgot which kind) and he put a turbo on each cylinder, it went from 300hp to like 950hp..... lol

:cool: :p

[PsychoChimp22]

BTW: Heres a much better list. http://www.topgear.com/content/misc/TV/lap_times/

[ZeTurbo]

Weak, wait until they get a turbo on each cylinder, i have a video of this muscle car owner (forgot which kind) and he put a turbo on each cylinder, it went from 300hp to like 950hp..... lol

:cool: :p
idd like to see what that engine looks like. have any links or pics?

this saleen is sweet. I would like to see a enzo vs s& comparison now. the saleen is not just about power, its a pretty good handler. and saleen now has gained experience from its S7R so they are bound to put some of that knowledge into this new S7.

could be quite interesting.

[Egg Nog]

Weak, wait until they get a turbo on each cylinder, i have a video of this muscle car owner (forgot which kind) and he put a turbo on each cylinder, it went from 300hp to like 950hp..... lol

:cool: :p

Yeah, that was pretty cool. the guy only made it for the sake of being the only one in the world to do it. Performance-wise, there's really no advantage at all to having a setup like that :)

[Mattg]

vey nice car and is that a pearlescent paint job? looks great! :)

[megotmea7]

Big numbers don't mean fast laps.

(Anyone pointing out that the latter cars are lighter, more track orientated cars will get a kick up the arse for pointing out the blatently obvious, we're just talking about power.)
the latter cars were lighter more track oriented cars ;)
it has ALOT to do ith the comparison, basing everything off power alone is not an effective way to compare cars. this is a reletivly light(lighter than the enzo) track riented car with more power than the oposition, it should translate to some decent lap times. we'll have to see :)

[dashers]

sod the enzo,i would like to see this up against the koenigsegg CCR considering that weighs less and has more power!

[16-4Veyron]

Yeah, that was pretty cool. the guy only made it for the sake of being the only one in the world to do it. Performance-wise, there's really no advantage at all to having a setup like that :)


Haha, ya, there was really no point in doing it. It was just a very rich guy with nothing better to do, and he wanted a "dyno dog". :p

[andy.muc]

What would happen if the rivals would come up with something like a Zonda Twin-Turbo? Carrera GT Twin-Turbo?? Enzo Twin-Turbo???

[Egg Nog]

What would happen if the rivals would come up with something like a Zonda Twin-Turbo? Carrera GT Twin-Turbo?? Enzo Twin-Turbo???

They would be fast?

[andy.muc]

They would be fast?

Thought they were already...

[Egg Nog]

Thought they were already...

They are!

I was just a little confused though... what would happen? Well, it's not really too difficult to figure out :D

[clutch-monkey]

its sort of cheating, using turbos, especially when the engine already has a 7litre displacement

[fpv_gtho]

Yeah but its also still OHV....whether you see that as a disadvantage or not. Me personally i think it'd go alot better with DOHC

[clutch-monkey]

it just seems like something someone would do as an aftermarket accessory, like that twin turbo F50 etc

[fpv_gtho]

Well alot of Koenigsegg's are supercharged, but they dont use anything near a 7L engine. Turbo's are becoming more popular though, but the F40 did have them afterall. And considering theyre running 5.5psi each and no intercoolers, i'd say theres still alot left in the engine

[clutch-monkey]

yes but the f40 only had a 3L V8TT, to save weight over a V12. and the saleen was very fast n/a. i don't know why, i just think superchargers is more acceptable on a big engine, like the koenigsegg/amv600

[fpv_gtho]

Its an interesting thought. Both wouldve worked pretty good, but i suppose when youve got a 7L engine how can you resist not sticking a couple of snails on :p

[clutch-monkey]

yes, i guess the figures speak for themselves..:)

[fpv_gtho]

Should be interesting to see how far someone pushes one, 7L and a pair of ball bearing turbo's, you'd think there'd be hardly any lag

[clutch-monkey]

i think we'll be seeing someone reach 1000hp just because they can
i wonder if saleen will have reliability trouble now that they have two turbos fitted

[fpv_gtho]

Maybe at the next SEMA we'll see something :p

That always seems to draw out the idiots

[Slicks]

i wonder if saleen will have reliability trouble now that they have two turbos fitted
That would be really surprising, there only running 5.5 psi maximum boost.

[more-boost1555]

what a monstrosity....hmmm, I dunno, TT seems a bit much on such a large engine, but whatever floats your boat.

[pAinTrAin]

(Top Gear laps)

Dodge Viper SRT-10 (~500bhp) - 1 Minute, 28.5 seconds
BMW M3 CSL (~360bhp) - 1 Minute, 28 seconds

Chevrolet Corvette (~400bhp) - 1 Minute, 26.8 seconds
Lotus Exige S2 (~190bhp) - 1 Minute, 26.4 seconds

Lambourghini Murcielago (~580bhp) - 1 minute, 23.7 seconds
Porsche GT3 RS (~400bhp) - 1 minute, 22.3 seconds

Porsche Carrera GT (~610bhp) - 1 minute, 19.8 seconds
Ariel Atom 2 (~300bhp) - 1 Minute, 19.5 seconds

Big numbers don't mean fast laps.

(Anyone pointing out that the latter cars are lighter, more track orientated cars will get a kick up the arse for pointing out the blatently obvious, we're just talking about power.)

True, its all in the gear setup

[clutch-monkey]

what a monstrosity....hmmm, I dunno, TT seems a bit much on such a large engine, but whatever floats your boat.

exacrly my point. it feels a bit over-the-top. well, i suppose it is made in america :D j/k :D

[What]

That's right, Saleen has introduced a 750-hp twin-turbo version of the S7. More info:

http://www.fast-autos.net/saleen/saleens7tt.html
It's Drew...
Miss me?

By the way, I love this car. It ought to dominate all other supercars.

[KeRmIt]

id still take a mclaren f1 over a saleen..... just slap 2 turbos onto the mclaren? then its all even again?
we are talking about a Twin turbo car beating naturally aspirated cars? it doesnt really compare? well saleen have done well ill admit thats one sickk car there lol
!!!!!!!

[pAinTrAin]

id still take a mclaren f1 over a saleen..... just slap 2 turbos onto the mclaren? then its all even again?
we are talking about a Twin turbo car beating naturally aspirated cars? it doesnt really compare? well saleen have done well ill admit thats one sickk car there lol
!!!!!!!

Twin Turbo on a McLaren F1...are you crazy. You might even brake the 300mph bar. :eek:

[quattro_20v]

Twin Turbo on a McLaren F1...are you crazy. You might even brake the 300mph bar. :eek:

That would be crazy on the road... I mean when most are driving ~80 mph on the highway, and u would press the throttle to the bottom.... u'll get tunnelvision for sure :P.

[pAinTrAin]

That would be crazy on the road... I mean when most are driving ~80 mph on the highway, and u would press the throttle to the bottom.... u'll get tunnelvision for sure :P.


I would love to see the look on people face's when you go by them doing 280mph and they are going 55 :D

(if your can see there faces when your going thatfast :D)

[clutch-monkey]

this may sound odd, but i'm not convinced that this saleen will be popular :confused:

[carlover]

750 HorsePower?!? Twin-Turbo Engine!?! 0-60 in 2.8 Seconds!!!!! I mean- Wdgh-! Jdgh-! How come I didn't know about this?!?! Oh, BTW, Take That, ENZO!!! MWAHAHAHAHAH!!! :D :D

[ChuckinCHI]

mee likey alot. Equal with styling and power. Some cars just dont have that.

[andy.muc]

Twin Turbo on a McLaren F1...are you crazy. You might even brake the 300mph bar. :eek:

You can't just take a car, stick a twin-turbo in there and just watch it go faster and faster.
The F1s setup is just fine. The engine fits the gearbox and chasis.
The car got exactly the power it was meant for.
Stick a TT in there and the car will be completely unbalanced.

They might have managed it with the S7 but they sure did a lot more than just instaling the TT.
You can't do that with every car.

[fpv_gtho]

Your right, you need to balance everything to make it right. The S7's known to have enough downforce to drive upside down, and they still revised the S7 TT's aerodynamics

[Saleen Hobo]

i'd......................... go homeless to get this car

[CdocZ]

i'd......................... go homeless to get this car
many people would :p what a great car

[Manik]

spectacular car, a big step forward for the americans.

[CdocZ]

just like the 67 shelby cobra 427 was :D (4.2 seconds to 60 mph 38 years ago!!!!!!)

[Matra et Alpine]

hmmm, will these be homolgated for racing ?
I remember the 600hp Saleens at Knockhill, great sound and bloody fast lap times when it was dry. Didn't handle the hairpin at all well, but made up for it on the long straight :)

[Lamospeed23]

Dang that is amazing 750hp dang!!!!

[SupraMan22]

Saleen never stops amazing me. 750 hp, twin turbo, 0-60 in 2.8 seconds thats awesome. too bad its like $555,000. 0-100 in 6.0, i don't even think we own a car that could do 0-60 in under 6 seconds. maybe our supra, but thats it. nice car, keep postin picks of it.

[Koenigsegg_CC]

Waht a car!

[aNOBLEman]

You can't just take a car, stick a twin-turbo in there and just watch it go faster and faster.
The F1s setup is just fine. The engine fits the gearbox and chasis.
The car got exactly the power it was meant for.
Stick a TT in there and the car will be completely unbalanced.

They might have managed it with the S7 but they sure did a lot more than just instaling the TT.
You can't do that with every car.

At the NAIAS I saw this amazing car and I saw the extra aerodynamic pieces. I couldn't see any new suspension bits, but they're probably there.