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Egg Nog
01-05-2004, 12:37 AM
A user on Supercars.net recently posted tons of press photos that were just released of the new Ford Mustang GT. Very retro.

http://speed.supercars.net/Board?viewThread=y&fID=8&tID=97263

EDIT: Please don't post all these pictures here. It slows the load time, takes up excess bandwidth, and besides, I just posted link! :)

Wouter Melissen
01-05-2004, 01:01 AM
The new Mustang has been on the site for almost 24 hours now.

V12 Disord3r
01-05-2004, 02:41 PM
Do not like it...

Batmobile_Turbo
01-05-2004, 04:30 PM
i like the new mustang a lot, but i don't like how they didn't put any side vents on it like the mustang of old it's trying to portray.

fpv_gtho
01-05-2004, 07:20 PM
i like the new mustang a lot, but i don't like how they didn't put any side vents on it like the mustang of old it's trying to portray.


wait for the SVT

bum-man
01-05-2004, 11:31 PM
the concept looked better and the fin looks out of place on that car...still solid rear axil??!!! i thought ford would realise that is old school and would move on to more conventional and better performing independent suspension.

fpv_gtho
01-06-2004, 12:31 AM
perhaps its to cost cuts, they may yet show an independant rear on an SVT version

NoOne
01-06-2004, 01:08 AM
I have to agree, it is strange that they stuck with a solid rear axle, even though it is a 3 link set-up.
I believe the SVT will have the independant set-up as they have in the current model.

fpv_gtho
01-06-2004, 01:11 AM
thats always a possibility NoOne, and with ford having developed a RWD versino of the control blade IRS they could use that in it

more-boost1555
01-06-2004, 01:57 PM
First off, the styling, it seems so far most people either love it or hate it. I think I'm starting to like it. I think it looks way better than the concept did, thank god they gave the GT those driving lights, it was just way too blocky and boring as a concept. The lights give it more personality, and that killer 68-69 look. I agree that the rear spoiler is a bit distastefull, it's just pointless really. The new engine is great though! Three valves per cylinder with variable valve timing technology from the new F-150's 5.4 block. Three hundred horse isn't bad at all for a GT!

As for the rear axle, I do think it was to cut costs, but also they say a solid rear axle is better for dragging and that was very important to a lot of customers. I guarantee the next Cobra will have IRS though, it would be senseless for it not to.

I can't wait to see what the boys at SVT cook up with the new platform. Any guesses as to the next Cobra's output? I would think at least 400 hp... :D

fpv_gtho
01-06-2004, 07:18 PM
my guess is 430hp for the cobra

fpv_gtho
01-07-2004, 08:32 AM
thats always a possibility NoOne, and with ford having developed a RWD versino of the control blade IRS they could use that in it


i should rephrase this to ford having developed a RWD version of the control blade irs for large car applications. its used on the x-type jap which is all wheel drive, but ford australia took it one step further and developed a version for the falcon and territory (crossover SUV similar to the freestyle)

GT500
01-07-2004, 06:19 PM
I'm really looking forward to seeing both of these cars on the road, especially the Vette. I was surprised when I first saw both cars' designs. The design is debatable (sp?). Now I'm going to infringe on Motor Trend's copyrights hehe:

Mustang:
What's hot:
1) V-8 300 hp
2) It's a Mustang! ;)
What's Not:
1) Debatable styling
2) Needs a 6 speed :p
Bottom Line:
A revival of the awesome Mustang! (duh)

C6 Vette:
What's hot:
1) 400 horses!!!! :D
2) Finally may be enough to match the Viper
What's not:
1) Headlights.....uggghhhhh
2) Needs a 5 or 6 speed auto
Bottom Line:
The new Vette is coming!!!

SO there you have it-my strange opinions on the new American classics. It's strange to think a Mustang outran Vettes back in the '60's, with the 400+ cubic inch engines. I really hope the Mustang is given a GT500 version (my name!), with the original '67's 428ci engine, that would make my day.

fpv_gtho
01-08-2004, 08:02 AM
i think the best we can hope for in the new mustang is a 6.4L SVT version.

NoOne
01-08-2004, 09:21 AM
i think the best we can hope for in the new mustang is a 6.4L SVT version.

Hell yeah !!! :)
I'd put my money in on a 'stang with the new Ford/Shelby Cobra V10 !!! :cool:

more-boost1555
01-08-2004, 01:08 PM
they had an article in Motor Trend a while ago about Ford testing that engine out. They had it stuck in a Mustang test mule, so it can be done! I don't remember the performance specs they had for that car, but I do remember it had waaaay too much power for the rear wheels.

Lol, and they didn't even know what plans Ford had for that monster. Who would have thought it was going into a new Shelby Cobra!

fpv_gtho
01-11-2004, 01:23 AM
well Ford Australia a couple of years back got an aftermarket tuning company that specialises in Fords called Herrod Motorsport to retrofit an Australian imported '99 SVT convertible with the 6.8L V10 to showcase at various street machine events. the installation was by no means street registerable and i think they had to cut away at the firewall to get it in

eyebrows
01-11-2004, 01:42 AM
The Mustang,
the ultimate muscle car, turned into a f@#$ing Family car (well it looks like it anyway) :confused: .... What was Ford thinking????????????? Dam a lot of thumbs down from here :mad:

fpv_gtho
01-11-2004, 03:25 AM
well remember the original 64 1/2 mustang was designed as a family car, sorta

NoOne
01-11-2004, 04:29 AM
I don't remember the performance specs they had for that car, but I do remember it had waaaay too much power for the rear wheels.


I don't believe in having too much power for the rear wheels, just in not having enough suspension to handle it :D

fpv_gtho
01-11-2004, 04:33 AM
thats definately true, although there are limits to how much power you can put through 2 wheels, give it AWD and problem fixed i suppose

crisis
01-12-2004, 11:38 PM
I think this Mustang is a vast improvement on the last effort which did not impress me at all aesthetically. Im a little surprised to see it has a solid rear axle! most newer 4x4s have independant rear suspension (which in my opinion is a disaster). I wonder what effect this will have on its handling. Especially in comparison to the Corvettes system.

fpv_gtho
01-13-2004, 12:26 AM
well the mustang's probably still engineered to accept an IRS unit, but regards to the corvettes rear suspension, what was the point of a transverse leaf spring?

more-boost1555
01-13-2004, 01:51 PM
the new Mustang was designed to be "plug and play" with an IRS. So said one of Ford's engineers who worked on the Mustang, in the latest Car and Driver.

crisis
01-13-2004, 04:51 PM
well the mustang's probably still engineered to accept an IRS unit, but regards to the corvettes rear suspension, what was the point of a transverse leaf spring?
Who knows. The new system has infinitely adjustable shocks that adjust to the road surface almost instantly. Assuring a smooth ride on rough surfaces and a tighter ride when road conditions allow. Apperently HSV are looking at it.

fpv_gtho
01-13-2004, 08:22 PM
well i think HSV should think twice before taking on the system, australian roads are much different to those around the world. plus, would HSV be able to sell the idea of using a transverse leaf spring to us humble australians as a great engineering feat?