View Full Version : A new game:"The facts matter"
emperor
02-28-2005, 04:36 AM
Hello everyone!
I would like to start a new guessing game. The idea is simple: you post some information about a brand, manufacturer or specified model and others have to guess what car is it. For example: They have their factory in Maranello. Answer: Ferrari (that was hard wasn't it? :)). I hope you will like it.
I am a junior member and I lack in experience and knowledge to run it by myself. So the one who gets the good answer is the next one to post. And if there are many wrong guesses or no guesses for long time you post next piece of puzzle. After three ones you post correct answer and next riddle (easier this time). We can always change the rules.
First one is: This car is American. Its first production model was bought by Saudi prince Khalid.
Have fun!
dydzi
02-28-2005, 02:04 PM
eee... i may be wrong but it can be duesenberg
emperor
02-28-2005, 02:25 PM
You're right about the fact that you're wrong :). Nope it is not a Duesenberg.
emperor
02-28-2005, 04:52 PM
Ok. Next hint:
This car was built much later than Duesenberg, their first model was sold in 1990, but the project started in 1972. Fast car.
Turbonutter55
03-01-2005, 01:36 PM
Vector?
emperor
03-01-2005, 01:59 PM
Vector?
Very good Turbonutter55. The correct answer is Vector. You can post the next riddle if you want.
emperor
03-02-2005, 04:06 PM
Ok since we have no word from Turbonutter55 I will post the next riddle:
This famous (legendary) car was suposed to be named differently. They had to change it because other company had already reserved rights to that name. (I know, there are probably a 100 cars which would fit here. Just try to guess and wait for next hint, it should clear things for you and narrow the search)
Have fun.
Manik
03-02-2005, 07:37 PM
hmmmmmmmm............All that I can think of is maybe a BMW M1, it didn't really change it's name tho. It was going to be produced by lamborghini but lambo didn't have the funds. Aww this is bugging me so much, I watched a show the other day and it talked about a car that had it's name changed because another company had reserved it. I just can't put my finger on it!
emperor
03-02-2005, 07:41 PM
nope, not a BMW
IBrake4Rainbows
03-02-2005, 10:09 PM
Well the New Fiat Panda was going to be named the Gingo, but Renault started freaking out because it was too close to Twingo.......
And Holden owns the Rights to the Allroad name that Audi uses.
and the Buick LaCrosse had to be renamed in Canada because it means "Pleasuring Oneself" in French-Canadian Slang......
The possibilities are endless really.
emperor
03-03-2005, 02:56 AM
Nope.
Ok I know that there is a variety, but you have to pay attention to what I tell you. It's a legend (I think so) so things like fiat panda are out.
A small hint: Before I said that they had to change name. Well "name" isn't exactly the right word. Mabe label would fit in. (just a reminder: I am not a native English speaker) Some car companies label their cars by "name" (a word, like Panda :)) and other companies label their cars by ...
henk4
03-03-2005, 02:59 AM
Porsche 901, had to become 911 as Peugeot had the rights to use a zero in the middle of a three digit type name, like 203, 403 and the list goes on.
Peugeot never complained about the Porsche racing cars, 904/906/908
emperor
03-03-2005, 03:11 AM
Porsche 901, had to become 911 as Peugeot had the rights to use a zero in the middle of a three digit type name, like 203, 403 and the list goes on.
Peugeot never complained about the Porsche racing cars, 904/906/908
Brilliant. Three minutes after the hint. Congratulations henk4. Your answer is 2 000 000% right :D . It was Porsche 911 and also you have given the correct reason for name change. You can post next riddle if you want to.
henk4
03-03-2005, 03:22 AM
which brand produced the first car using 4x4 and an inline 6?
VtecMini
03-03-2005, 05:32 AM
Toyota?
henk4
03-03-2005, 05:36 AM
Toyota?
Even I wasn't borne at the date meant :D
VtecMini
03-03-2005, 05:41 AM
Even I wasn't borne at the date meant :DCrumbs... That is a long time ago... :p
henk4
03-03-2005, 05:42 AM
Crumbs... That is a long time ago... :p
and even more than 40 years before THAT :D
emperor
03-03-2005, 08:13 AM
Four Wheel Drive Auto Company (Badger) and model name was CU6 (I think)
henk4
03-03-2005, 08:22 AM
Four Wheel Drive Auto Company (Badger) and model name was CU6 (I think)
Nope, the company exists again today
emperor
03-03-2005, 01:07 PM
Audi Quattro (just a shot, I can't think of anything else right now)
henk4
03-03-2005, 01:09 PM
Audi Quattro (just a shot, I can't think of anything else right now)
The company now has a link with Audi, but not regarding the 4WD
dydzi
03-03-2005, 01:55 PM
maybe subaru?
henk4
03-03-2005, 01:56 PM
I think I am older than Subaru. You have to go back by a century
Roy Visser
03-03-2005, 02:48 PM
Spyker
henk4
03-04-2005, 12:40 AM
Spyker
that is correct, give us another anorak fact to find out :)
dydzi
03-04-2005, 11:19 AM
of course spyker 60hp, how could i be wrong :(
henk4
03-04-2005, 12:07 PM
of course spyker 60hp, how could i be wrong :(
because it is impossible to know everything :)
dydzi
03-04-2005, 02:00 PM
because it is impossible to know everything :)
the problem is i knew that car but i didn't think that can be an answer
Roy Visser
03-04-2005, 02:22 PM
that is correct, give us another anorak fact to find out :)
i'll give the fact back to you, im not on enough to keep updating :)
henk4
03-04-2005, 02:25 PM
i'll give the fact back to you, im not on enough to keep updating :)
OK: which car maker introduced the timing belt, (as an alternative to the timing chain, OHC drive)
emperor
03-04-2005, 04:26 PM
Fiat?
henk4
03-05-2005, 01:50 AM
no....
emperor
03-05-2005, 04:48 AM
DAF perhaps?
henk4
03-05-2005, 05:00 AM
German
emperor
03-05-2005, 05:21 AM
Volkswagen? (If this one is wrong I give up :()
henk4
03-05-2005, 05:37 AM
Volkswagen? (If this one is wrong I give up :()
it is wrong, by the end of the sixties the company was taken over by a still existing one
dydzi
03-05-2005, 06:01 AM
probably wrong but maybe NSU?
henk4
03-05-2005, 06:04 AM
probably wrong but maybe NSU?
yes sorry, still wrong
Matra et Alpine
03-05-2005, 06:46 AM
The Goggomobile was the first mass produced car to use a timing belt in 1950, so either Porsceh or Glas ?? ( damn I shoudl know this :) )
henk4
03-05-2005, 06:50 AM
The Goggomobile was the first mass produced car to use a timing belt in 1950, so either Porsceh or Glas ?? ( damn I shoudl know this :) )
Porsche did not build the goggomobil :) It also had no OHC
Turbonutter55
03-05-2005, 01:25 PM
Well it's called a Gilmer belt, but I've never heard of a company called Gilmer...
henk4
03-05-2005, 01:29 PM
Well it's called a Gilmer belt, but I've never heard of a company called Gilmer...
A gilmer belt is used to drive superchargers, not camshafts.
henk4
03-05-2005, 01:33 PM
it was first introduced in a boxy looking 2 door sedan with 1000 cc, which in 1300 cc version became the fastest car in its class in German touringcar championship
IBrake4Rainbows
03-05-2005, 11:07 PM
Would it be BMW perhaps?
henk4
03-06-2005, 01:18 AM
Would it be BMW perhaps?
Not by that time :D
dydzi
03-06-2005, 02:14 PM
how about daimler?
i didn't hear they made some boxy cars but who knows....
henk4
03-07-2005, 12:46 AM
If only Matra had looked twice at this thread......
emperor
03-07-2005, 01:53 AM
Alpina?
henk4
03-07-2005, 04:00 AM
Alpina?
Look at Matra's post :D
emperor
03-07-2005, 05:53 AM
Ok the only hints that I see in Matra's post are: Quantum or this Goggomobile, but you said that the Goggomobile is not the right answer. (I am affraid that I am too young to guess this one :()
henk4
03-07-2005, 06:10 AM
Ok the only hints that I see in Matra's post are: Quantum or this Goggomobile, but you said that the Goggomobile is not the right answer. (I am affraid that I am too young to guess this one :()
Matra mentions two brands: Porsche and....
emperor
03-07-2005, 06:26 AM
Porsche and Glas but I still don't get it ( I mean, it seems that Glas is the correct answer but why didn't you say so after Matras post???)
henk4
03-07-2005, 06:34 AM
Porsche and Glas but I still don't get it ( I mean, it seems that Glas is the correct answer but why didn't you say so after Matras post???)
Matra did not provide an answer, he just mentioned two options and then said that he should know but did not. Glas built the Goggomobile, but that was not the car that qualified for the question I asked. This one does.
http://www.glasclub.org/glas/historie/typen/04/x04.htm
I hope you can read some German. It is stated that the Glas engine was the first engine built in series production that featured such a belt. Glas was later taken over by BMW.
I admit this all was a bit dodgy but up to now nobody positivel mentioned Glas.
emperor
03-07-2005, 06:40 AM
English: http://www.glasclub.org/glas/historie/short/hist_e.htm
So this means that glas is correct. I stil insist on giving the credit for this one to Matra (he guessed it first)
henk4
03-07-2005, 06:44 AM
English: http://www.glasclub.org/glas/historie/short/hist_e.htm
So this means that glas is correct. I stil insist on giving the credit for this one to Matra (he guessed it first)
guessing two marques at the same time is not giving a positive answer :)
emperor
03-07-2005, 07:04 AM
ok so what now?
henk4
03-07-2005, 07:07 AM
ok so what now?
do you want to come up with something new?
emperor
03-07-2005, 07:19 AM
I have something slightly different:
Name as many cars as you can that have the same name as some geographic name: city, river, mountain etc. When posting a place give country. If you post some place which is small give us some proof that this place exists. We will keep the game for, let's say three days. The one who gets most wins. Have fun!
Turbonutter55
03-07-2005, 11:37 AM
Okaaay...
Bristol (City in England)
Caterham (town in england)
Pontiac Le Mans
Volvo Amazon
Bentley Mulsanne (Corner at Le Mans)
Ferrari Maranello and Modena
Frazer-Nash Nurburg (as in Nurburgring)
GAZ (Russian, stands for Gorkiy Auto Factory)
Hispano-Suiza "Boulogne"
Renault Fuego (Tierra del)
Seat Toledo, Ibiza, Cordoba, Marbella and Leon (all Spanish cities)
Ford Anglia (I suppose engine codenames don't count)
And more coming later...
dydzi
03-07-2005, 01:18 PM
Ford Anglia
anglia means england in polish, i dont suppose they made it on purpose, but it is name of country anyway
henk4
03-07-2005, 01:41 PM
Maserati:
Sebring, Mexico, Kyalami,
De Tomaso
Deauville, Longchamp, Vallelunga
Ford
Capri, Taunus, Sierra, Escort Mexico, Galaxy, Orion,
Hyundai
Santa Fe, Tucson,
Lada Samara
Volga (itself)
Porsche Cayenne
Ferrari Daytona (not officially though), Modena
Alfa Romeo Montreal
Pontiac Bonneville,
ChryslerSebring, New Yorker,
Triumph Toledo
Esperante
03-07-2005, 04:34 PM
To add to henk's list...
Bentley
Arnage
Kia
Sedona
henk4
03-08-2005, 12:43 AM
To add to henk's list...
Kia
Sedona
I had wanted to include the seminal Kia Rio, but I am not sure that Rio alone would be sufficient :)
Astra-Turbo
03-08-2005, 02:47 AM
Vauxhall - (town in england)
emperor
03-08-2005, 06:00 AM
I had wanted to include the seminal Kia Rio, but I am not sure that Rio alone would be sufficient :)
Kia Rio is fine.
Keep up the good work
henk4
03-08-2005, 06:36 AM
Kia Rio is fine.
Keep up the good work
I just saw a Kia Sorento, which may look like it makes a reference to this famous place close to Naples. If only they had done the spelling correctly. Sorrento is with 2 R's. Bloody Koreans :)
Some additional onces:
Glas built the Isar
Bugatti made the Atlantique/Atlantic
Ford made the Torino
Cadillac made the Seville
Alfa Romeo made the 6C 2500 SS Touring Villa d'Este Coupe
Monte Carlo was used by Chevrolet, Lancia
Monza was used by DKW Alfa Romeo and Chevrolet
Healey built the Silverstone
Frazer-Nash the LeMans Replica
Esperante
03-08-2005, 06:50 AM
Chrysler
New Yorker
Pacifica (more or less)
Atlantic
Cadillac
Eldorado
Ferrari
250 GT California
Astra-Turbo
03-08-2005, 08:49 AM
Audi Le Mans quattro concept
British leyland - leyland is a place in lancashire in england
Bentley Brooklands R - Brooklands is in scotland iirc
chevrolet malibu
chevrolet Bel Air
Misho
03-08-2005, 09:12 AM
also the Peugeot 407
Turbonutter55
03-09-2005, 02:13 PM
I don't think Galaxy and Orion really count...
Bristol Blenheim (UK palace)
Russo-Baltique (think that should count, it's the first Russian attempt at a car industry from 1909)
SAIC (Shanghai Automotive)
Fuji Heavy Industries (does this count, makes Subarus)
Cadillac Le Mans, Biarritz and Eldorado (if fictional places count)
henk4
03-09-2005, 02:24 PM
If the Kia Rio has been accepted, than the VW Golf should also qualify.
Chevrolet used to build the Corsica, which was also the name of a famous coach builder.
Hispano-Suiza as such is also possible.
Triumphbuilt about 100 Italia roadsters in the sixties, and also the Dolomite.
what about names of winds?
Passat
Bora
Khamsin
emperor
03-09-2005, 03:28 PM
I don't get it with Golf, I mean maybe like in Persian Gulf :)
Winds are out, so are the planets (maybe later we will make a game with these themes)
So no Passats, Monsoons, Northwinds, Strongwinds etc. (hihi)
Galaxy and Orion also don't count (sorry)
henk4
03-10-2005, 12:54 AM
I don't get it with Golf, I mean maybe like in Persian Gulf :)
Winds are out, so are the planets (maybe later we will make a game with these themes)
So no Passats, Monsoons, Northwinds, Strongwinds etc. (hihi)
Galaxy and Orion also don't count (sorry)
Golf means Gulf in Dutch :)
Delmaster
03-10-2005, 05:32 AM
Golf means Gulf in Dutch :)
same in German
henk4
03-10-2005, 05:36 AM
same in German
I was not sure about that, thought you would only use "Welle"
emperor
03-10-2005, 11:51 AM
Ok just a reminder that this game has to end sometime so the deadline is [/B]today 4pm[B] (the time of this forum, shown at the bottom) meaning you have approx. 4 hours.
emperor
03-10-2005, 11:54 AM
yyy? why the hell did this idiot before me write the [/B] tag before [B] tag? Is he stupid or what? :)
emperor
03-10-2005, 04:19 PM
OK. This one is over.
The winner is henk4 with 30 names. Congratulations!!!
From me only three names: first is Warszawa (I don't supose you know this car, I wonder why dydzi didn't post this one) which is a polish car and also a capitol of Poland in polish.
The second is Ferrari Super-America.
And I am really surprised that no one mentioned a car which I think is well known. I am talking about Pontiac Trans-Am, because I am pretty sure that it refers to Trans-American (am I right?)
Anyway congrats to henk4 and we are awaiting the next riddle from you.
Esperante
03-11-2005, 08:29 PM
I am talking about Pontiac Trans-Am, because I am pretty sure that it refers to Trans-American (am I right?)
I think it has to do with the engine...
IBrake4Rainbows
03-12-2005, 12:32 AM
From my recollection, Trans-Am is a recognition of the success the Pontiac Firebird had in the Trans-American Race series.
emperor
03-14-2005, 10:12 AM
Ok. The last one was guessed by henk4 but he didn't post new riddle. I will wait for him a little more but if he won't post anything than I will.
henk4
03-15-2005, 05:52 AM
Ok. The last one was guessed by henk4 but he didn't post new riddle. I will wait for him a little more but if he won't post anything than I will.
don't wait for me I am currently travelling and can only work from a dial-up connection and only sporadically. May be next week will be better.
emperor
03-15-2005, 08:10 AM
don't wait for me I am currently travelling and can only work from a dial-up connection and only sporadically. May be next week will be better.
Ok no problem.
the next one is (I hope that it isn't too easy):
This man (Mr. X) went one day to Mr. Y to fix the problem with his clutch. When Mr. Y told him to get lost he went home and later started his own car factory.
Name Mr. X Mr Y. and car companies involved in this story.
drakkie
03-15-2005, 08:47 AM
???Lamborghini and Enzo Ferrari and the companies named after them...
emperor
03-15-2005, 08:52 AM
???Lamborghini and Enzo Ferrari and the companies named after them...
Very good! But what was Lamborghinis first name?
P3RG4R3C
03-15-2005, 09:04 AM
Very good! But what was Lamborghinis first name?
Ferruccio.
emperor
03-15-2005, 09:12 AM
Well we had a bit of fun (for an hour) but it is over.
Yes Ferrucio Lamborghini & Enzo Ferrari. but the first one to get the right answer was drakkie so he can post next riddle.