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Smokescreen
03-19-2005, 11:40 AM
If you had the chance, what 3 things would you change about this already bitchin' game?

1) American Tuners (Lingenfleter, Hennessey, Roush, Saleen Steeda)
2) More muscle cars
3) More old race cars

6'bore
03-19-2005, 11:43 AM
I would like to have all of these things thrown in, but I can't say it bothers me that they arent. i would like to see a few more classic race cars though.

illusionest
03-19-2005, 11:44 AM
definitely not american tuners
old race cars? they already have alot

muscle cars....:D:D

TheOne
03-19-2005, 11:46 AM
1)yeah american tuners, and more american cars(there's too many skylines and only 2 newer mustangs?)
2)change the LAN mode to ONLINE mode(there is a way to play online through lan mode, but it woulda been better if it was built into the game)
3)drag race for single player(i still haven't finished the game so i dunno if las vegas strip gets unlocked for 2 player mode, tho i know it is a racing sim)

Smokescreen
03-19-2005, 12:03 PM
By race cars I guess I should have specified. I would really like to see a NASCAR Grand National, Penske Z28's, Mustang Boss, AAR 'Cudas, T/A Challengers, all the Trans Am pony cars, Petty's Charger Daytona, '05 Stock Cars. Mostly American cars, this game seems very biased towards Japanese cars.

Cotterik
03-19-2005, 12:05 PM
monster trucks, licensed wrc cars, f1 cars, that sorta stuff

baddabang
03-19-2005, 12:11 PM
monster trucks, licensed wrc cars, f1 cars, that sorta stuff

monster trucks :D

Id add car damage, and caution time, and the whole get your face in the game thing, so I can actually be the driver. :p

my porsche
03-19-2005, 12:39 PM
1) i'd add damage
2) get more major manufacturers on board, i.e. porsche ferrari lamborghini that type
3) not have races that are excluding if you dont have a certain % game completion
4) dash and hood views instead or in addition to roof and bumper

CSL
03-19-2005, 12:49 PM
1, race cars would be much more stable and not act like they aer on a teeter tooter at high speeds.

2, more tracks, we dont need 4 Fujis, 3 Twin rings, 3 Suzukas. there are much more historic race tracks than those like Sebring, Spa, ect

3, sound sound sound, listening to Sebring right now and the C5R and Audi R8 sound so different in the game

4, in the 24 hour races, the races go into night amd back into day, ya know like real life, and a extra added something, mkae it rain sometimes


5, less Jap bias, cars from the late 80s and 90s dont lap as fast as the Audi R8

6. get rid of that dumb 5 second crap in the rally races, its so hard not to touch when the track isint bigger than a car and a hlaf wide

my porsche
03-19-2005, 12:57 PM
1, race cars would be much more stable and not act like they aer on a teeter tooter at high speeds.

2, more tracks, we dont need 4 Fujis, 3 Twin rings, 3 Suzukas. there are much more historic race tracks than those like Sebring, Spa, ect

3, sound sound sound, listening to Sebring right now and the C5R and Audi R8 sound so different in the game

4, in the 24 hour races, the races go into night amd back into day, ya know like real life, and a extra added something, mkae it rain sometimes


5, less Jap bias, cars from the late 80s and 90s dont lap as fast as the Audi R8

6. get rid of that dumb 5 second crap in the rally races, its so hard not to touch when the track isint bigger than a car and a hlaf wide

5&6 wow! i totally left those off!!! they are both great points! there are like 300 jap cars and 200 of everything else! its ridiculous, they can have national pride, but when you cars suck, put something else on!

Smokescreen
03-19-2005, 12:59 PM
I agree, the penalties are bull, especially how it works. You can slide in to every turn at full speed, and as long as your front doesn't get hit, you're fine, but if some one passes you and cuts you off, you get the penalty.

Smokescreen
03-19-2005, 01:02 PM
I agree with my porsche, JUst because it's there does the really mean it should be on there? And what I wanna know, how did the new BMW 330 and Eclipse, which hit magazine about 2 months before the game debut in the US, but the new corvette, which I first saw on TV New Years Day of 2004, not make it?

CSL
03-19-2005, 01:04 PM
I agree with my porsche, JUst because it's there does the really mean it should be on there? And what I wanna know, how did the new BMW 330 and Eclipse, which hit magazine about 2 months before the game debut in the US, but the new corvette, which I first saw on TV New Years Day of 2004, not make it?


dude, they have a 2000 Z06, was there ever a 2000 Z06, No

how they picked cars is a joke

the patent wagon and superold cars, waste of disc space, cool at first but then i just sold them because will never even get in to drive the pieces of crap

CSL
03-19-2005, 01:09 PM
5&6 wow! i totally left those off!!! they are both great points! there are like 300 jap cars and 200 of everything else! its ridiculous, they can have national pride, but when you cars suck, put something else on!


in GT world Championship, i had a R8 and i was only able to win because the other cars had to pit, thats not how it would be in real life, the Audis would smoke cars from the late 80's and 90's. this dosent include the V12 LMR, Bentley or Pescorolo.

There is a skyline in there, Exactly the same except it gets special colors so that goes into the mix with having its own car slot,

this when they couldnt tkae th Corvette C5R and change the livery to something that actually won the 24 hours, not hard to change the white to yellow

CSL
03-19-2005, 01:14 PM
cant forget

in the really long enduracnce races, REAL tire wear

Smokescreen
03-19-2005, 02:06 PM
out of the blue kinda, can you pause and save on enduros?

fpv_gtho
03-19-2005, 03:50 PM
If you had the chance, what 3 things would you change about this already bitchin' game?

1) American Tuners (Lingenfleter, Hennessey, Roush, Saleen Steeda)
2) More muscle cars
3) More old race cars

1) Less crappy Jap cars. Skylines are fine, but not every FRICKIN Skyline ever made since man landed on the moon...

2) More classic and old cars from around the world, maybe an old Falcon GT and Monaro GTS

3) An Australian track, maybe Bathurst, Phillip Island or Adelaide.

4) More realistic tuning. Its bullshit that the supercharger on my FPV GT gives less power than the stage 3 NA, what is it running on 5-6psi or something???

Rebirth of Xar
03-19-2005, 04:08 PM
Lack of Cosworth was a big upset.. how is there no escort cosworth or sierra cosworth!!

Id be happy with ligenfelter/mallet..

HREs would be awesome in the rims department..

I miss how in the first GT you could put "racing modifications" on the car and put all the racing decals and stuff on..

Bigger wheels would be good too not just 18s but maybe 19s and 20s for larger wheelwelled cars... oh and low profile tires too..

Better music would be good, and access to the sounds menu while in race would be good, not being able to skip shitty music tracks during races sucks.

when putting superchargers on muscle cars Id like to see big blowers sticking out of the hood.., Being able to modify a car from different tuning companies but not being able to see the difference between products was also stupic and pointless, it seemed very ricey because all parts cost the same and offer the exact same performance..

I could do without all the shitty jap cars too.. who needs so many different types of Skylines/RX7s/Civics?? - waste of space/time/money/RnD

my porsche
03-19-2005, 04:18 PM
dude, they have a 2000 Z06, was there ever a 2000 Z06, No
crapactually yes, it was called the mk1

whiteballz
03-19-2005, 04:18 PM
if this game were made in australia there would be more australian cars in it.

if this game were made in america there would be more american cars in it.

BUT

because this game is made in JAPAN its fair to let them put their cuture cars in further then american cars.

we all know that there are only a few new decent american cars. only the old ones were good. (comparitively)

my porsche
03-19-2005, 04:21 PM
yes but i think what we're saying is if you have national pride, good for you, you dont need to put every japanese car ever made into the game, and then not even any good italian or porsche cars!if i designed it i would choose the best cars regardless of nationality, and however it ended it would end

whiteballz
03-19-2005, 04:24 PM
About the Italian cars, have you heard of licencing laws? rights to names, colours and shapes?

if they were LEGALY allowed to put them in im sure they would have been on there, seeing as it would have expanded their names worldwide.

Rebirth of Xar
03-19-2005, 04:26 PM
we all know that there are only a few new decent american cars. only the old ones were good. (comparitively)

Saleens Mustangs 5 Different Models - 3-4 DIfferent Versions of each Model
Corvettes - 50 years of models + 3-4 versions of each model
Camaros/Trans Ams...
S7 TT
Vipers - Tons of em only 3-4 in the game!
Compacts - most are shitty.. BUT can be compared to most shitty hondas/Isuzus...

There have been 1.8l Turbo Engines in Americas Early 90s and IMHO they were just as good as any jap equivalent of the era..

Alot of Yous dont know much about the Early to mid 90s American Tuner scene because the cars werent exported of they werent that popular internationally so it doesnt mean that there werent good cars!

my porsche
03-19-2005, 04:29 PM
yes, and ferrari is a tighly wound little italian queer :p they sue people all the time for copying elements of their designs, they are very uptight :p :D

Rebirth of Xar
03-19-2005, 04:31 PM
yes, and ferrari is a tighly wound little italian queer :p they sue people all the time for copying elements of their designs, they are very uptight :p :D
their game rights are currently owned by the Project Gotham people i think.. that and EA..

my porsche
03-19-2005, 04:34 PM
oh, that would clarify it a bit :p

CSL
03-19-2005, 04:39 PM
actually yes, it was called the mk1

ive never heard of the MK1 Corvette, unless its a code name for a concept

my porsche
03-19-2005, 04:41 PM
no its a codename for the frist round of c5 z06's

its pretty sad i know that much about a corvette :p

CSL
03-19-2005, 04:46 PM
no its a codename for the frist round of c5 z06's

its pretty sad i know that much about a corvette :p

it came out in 2000 as a model year 2001 car

fpv_gtho
03-19-2005, 04:47 PM
well you werent the only one that knew it MP...

In 1999 when HSV started using the Gen3, they were thinking of using the LS6 in the GTS, but at its current 380hp trim it wasnt enough so they had to go to Callaway

my porsche
03-19-2005, 04:54 PM
yeah.... well,well, well it was made in the year 2000!! hahaha :p

Smokescreen
03-19-2005, 06:05 PM
Do you think it would be possible to "force" ferrari into this game? I think they might want to if Renault, BMW, Mercedes, Honda, and Toyota would have their F1 cars in GT?

fpv_gtho
03-19-2005, 06:12 PM
they'd probably demand their cars outperform the competition though

kko
03-19-2005, 06:13 PM
Make it Possible to fall off at grand canyon ! Cmon thats the best part!.
Also every time i race new york (in B spec) I hit one of the walls and come to a complete stop. Even if its set on slow down and i have perfect tires! so better be spec

deffenbaugh03
03-19-2005, 06:27 PM
I would really like damage put into the game. It would also be extremely nice if you could save in an endurance race, like maybe while pitting for example. And I'd also like to be able to choose exactly what cars i'm racing against in Arcade Mode 1 player. More big name companies like Ferrari and Porsche would be nice too of course.

CSL
03-19-2005, 06:54 PM
Do you think it would be possible to "force" ferrari into this game? I think they might want to if Renault, BMW, Mercedes, Honda, and Toyota would have their F1 cars in GT?


its out of everyones hands, the only way Ferrari, Porsche, and Lamborghini is getting into GT4 is when its license to EA sports runs out

it cant run out fast enough because there are no games from EA sports that come close to GT4

CSL
03-19-2005, 06:55 PM
Make it Possible to fall off at grand canyon ! Cmon thats the best part!.
Also every time i race new york (in B spec) I hit one of the walls and come to a complete stop. Even if its set on slow down and i have perfect tires! so better be spec

you have to use your bspec a lot or he wont know what to do, there is something called car skill and course skill in status

kko
03-19-2005, 07:34 PM
Super Dope!

Smokescreen
03-20-2005, 08:31 AM
I bet the Underground Titles will sell close to as many games as GT4 this year. Oh yeah, 2 play enduros race together and have it say on each memory card that each player beat that race not all the others, but make them really hard and realistic, like blown tires, real time wear, blown motors, oil and debris on the track, and a spot the would tell you where to avoid, position that sutff.

Quiggs
03-20-2005, 09:00 AM
A big step in this one was getting the drag strip put in. But so far (I'm just over 50%) I've only seen it used for testing. Let's get some 1 on 1 drags going.

Damage. Implemented like it was in Need for Speed: High Stakes. Anyone remember that game? After each race you had the option to repair your car, and it cost you a certain amount of money depending on how badly you smashed it up. There was bonus money for running a clean race (GT4 could use their A-spec points system for this).

If there's 50 variations of the Skyline, I want at least 5 variations of Mustangs, Camaros, Chevelles, Chargers, and Cudas. Where's the 70 Boss 302? The 427 Cobra Jet? The 396 Camaro? Bring back the Viper RT/10. The GTS is nice, but it's not a convertible. I like convertibles.

Buying parts for cars should increase their resale value by a small amount. A stripped and supercharged drag car does not sell for $5,000. Resale should also go down slowly based on mileage.

HARDER AI After 2 weeks it's way too easy to win. Some series are harder, but that's mainly due to pit strategy. You'd think after 4 titles they'd have this down.

Panoz needs more representation than the Esperante GTR. Same with Saleen. I miss my Mustang Widebody from GT2.

Tracks- Sebring, Daytona (Oval and road course), Watkin's Glen, Mid-Ohio, Road Atlanta. That's just from the US.

More wheel manufacturers. Rota and HRE mainly. And use their real names, not 'BBS01'.

Make the tuning company parts perform differently than the factory tuning parts. Price them accordingly. Bring in aftermarket body mods too. Abt, Oettinger, Zender, Brabus, Hamaan, etc...

Engine swaps. I want to put the 1.8T from a Mk4 Golf into a Mk1 Rabbit. Then I want to put a big turbo on it. I want to put a SBC in a Lotus Elise. Then I want to put a big turbo on it. RB26 swaps in S13's and S14's. Then (you guessed it) I want to put a big turbo on it.

lukeh
03-20-2005, 09:57 AM
There should be a BMW M3 GTR

Quiggs
03-20-2005, 10:04 AM
There should be a BMW M3 GTR
Like this? :)

forza_autodelta
03-20-2005, 10:40 AM
Like this? :)
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: amazing pics , now when I see my old playstation I want to cry , it's a very big shit :(

Rebirth of Xar
03-20-2005, 02:13 PM
Engine swaps. I want to put the 1.8T from a Mk4 Golf into a Mk1 Rabbit. Then I want to put a big turbo on it. I want to put a SBC in a Lotus Elise. Then I want to put a big turbo on it. RB26 swaps in S13's and S14's. Then (you guessed it) I want to put a big turbo on it.
I disagee with this one, it would turn into a very unrealistic game and I would get really pissed off because there woulld have to be a limit.. its too easy to say yea put the rbs into the s13-15 but because of how labor intensive it really is in real life what would be the difference from saying well you should also be able to put the McLaren SLR engine into the SL, SLK, S, G... or the M5-M6 engines into the E30-36-46.. or the NSX engine into the Civic or DCs.. it would turn into a fake game that was just using these things to attract more of the "import tuner (ricer) crowd...

I think taht Blown tires and oil slicks and shit like taht are good Ideas but I would hate for them to be in the game. just think about it, last lap, 24hr ring and its a close race.. you pop a tire and you lose the race, yea good suggestion

Rebirth of Xar
03-20-2005, 02:14 PM
Where Is The E30!!!!!!!!!!????????????

Quiggs
03-20-2005, 02:23 PM
I disagee with this one, it would turn into a very unrealistic game and I would get really pissed off because there woulld have to be a limit.. its too easy to say yea put the rbs into the s13-15 but because of how labor intensive it really is in real life what would be the difference from saying well you should also be able to put the McLaren SLR engine into the SL, SLK, S, G... or the M5-M6 engines into the E30-36-46.. or the NSX engine into the Civic or DCs.. it would turn into a fake game that was just using these things to attract more of the "import tuner (ricer) crowd...

It wouldn't be hard to set up a list of motors available to swap in. Obviously a 6+ liter V12 won't fit in a Karmann Ghia. I still think it'd be neat for online play to show up with a stock looking Rabbit GTI with a big-turbo'ed 1.8T. That'd surprise the blown Cuda in the next lane. :)

Rebirth of Xar
03-20-2005, 02:31 PM
It wouldn't be hard to set up a list of motors available to swap in. Obviously a 6+ liter V12 won't fit in a Karmann Ghia. I still think it'd be neat for online play to show up with a stock looking Rabbit GTI with a big-turbo'ed 1.8T. That'd surprise the blown Cuda in the next lane. :)
Im sorry but thats the same line any honda fanboy would use too, it defiets the purpose of using big/engined cars in the first place..

Quiggs
03-20-2005, 02:37 PM
In case you haven't noticed, the GT games are already Hon-duh fanboy wet dreams. 8 second Skylines? Don't think so...

But I see your point.

6'bore
03-20-2005, 02:44 PM
There should be a BMW M3 GTR


Do you even own the game?

Rebirth of Xar
03-20-2005, 02:47 PM
i miss being able to raise the boost on the turbos

Karrmann
03-20-2005, 02:50 PM
the fact that it is for PS2 and make it also compatible with PS1

carlover
03-20-2005, 03:41 PM
I'd run flat 12s in my Supra.

But seriously, if I could change it:

1. Car damage.
2. More cars. (aka: lambos. ferraris. porsches. the lot.)
3. Online mode (for free is best! :D )
4. And my all time favorite: Pedestrians walking across the street on the city levels. (Grand Turismo Auto 5: A-Andreas! :D )

RS6
03-20-2005, 03:42 PM
the fact that it is for PS2 and make it also compatible with PS1

Why, the PS1 was of the previous generation.

If I had my way, I would get them to release it on a better console, because I don't like the way Sony act and the way they put they're consoles together.

Rebirth of Xar
03-20-2005, 04:06 PM
the fact that it is for PS2 and make it also compatible with PS1
why? PS1 couldent even read the discs fast enough so how is this better/useful game/idea?

Karrmann
03-20-2005, 04:54 PM
casue I have a PS1 and right now i don't know if I can get my parents to get me a PS2 until PS3 comes oput and the PS2 gets really cheap.

my porsche
03-20-2005, 05:22 PM
the fact that it is for PS2 and make it also compatible with PS1
or you could save up for a modern console since nothing new is coming out for ps1 ever again

Rebirth of Xar
03-20-2005, 06:13 PM
casue I have a PS1 and right now i don't know if I can get my parents to get me a PS2 until PS3 comes oput and the PS2 gets really cheap.
too bad the concept of PS2 Roms/Emulators would be lost on you if suggested..