Bunch of numpties want Top Gear banned

[Coventrysucks]

Bunch of Berks at "Transport 2000 - The national environmental transport body" have set in motion an underhand campaign to skew the results of a survey commissioned by the government into the type of programming that is funded by the license fee.


Here is a chance to make a concerted effort to send the BBC`s Top Gear programme, that mouthpiece for car fanatics presented by chief petrolhead Jeremy Clarkson, to the scrapheap.

The BBC is inviting viewers to have their say on the future of the BBC. Although the consultation is ostensibly about commenting on the Green Paper and future options for the role and governance of the BBC, it provides an opportunity to comment on programme content, for example:

... To call for more balanced reporting on transport, ie putting the environmental/social angle, and for the BBC to play a higher profile role in educating the public about sustainability issues, for example the contribution of transport to climate change.

... To call for `motormania` programmes such as Top Gear to be scrapped on the grounds that they glamorise speed and the use of vehicles with high fuel consumption.

Campaigners argue that Top Gear has a number of key faults:

•It glamorises speed and fails to make the connection with danger on the roads.

•It encourages an obsession with unnecessarily powerful and therefore heavily polluting cars.

•Through use of Jeremy Clarkson as presenter, with his distinctive image, it is in danger of encouraging a ‘yobbish’ attitude on the road.

•It does not focus enough, if at all, on responsible driving, ‘greener’ cars, road safety or the need to cut car journeys and use alternatives where possible.

•Through its recurring ‘macho’ themes of speed and power, it fails to include the interests of most women in its programmes.

Transport 2000’s suggestion is for a new programme, perhaps called Third Gear, devoted to encouraging responsible motoring based on less environmentally damaging cars, considerate and safety-conscious driving, and exploration of alternatives to the car.

The on-line questionnaire can be filled in at:


www.bbccharterreview.org.uk/have_your_say/green_paper/BBC_Greenpaper_Questionnaire.doc



Alternatively, email your comments to

[email protected]

Feel free to contact either of those addresses to let them know that this campaign exists and that any data that looks suspiciously skewed should be ignored.

Also feel free to contact either of those addresses to let them know that you enjoy Top Gear's current format.

You can also contact Transport 2000 and let them know what a pathetic bunch of effluent they are.

I don't particularly like Transport 2000's ideas but do I set up campaigns to have them banned?

No.

Should Transport 2000 be allowed to attempt to get things banned just because they don't like them?

No.


Not the official Transport 2000 (http://www.transport2000.co.uk/) website.

[6'bore]

Can I email one of those addresses and let them know how I really feel about them? :p

[ScionDriver]

•It glamorises speed and fails to make the connection with danger on the roads.

•It encourages an obsession with unnecessarily powerful and therefore heavily polluting cars.
Isn't that what makes the show so awesome? Yes I think it is.

[dydzi]

would it be exciting to watch programmes like 'how can you drive nicely for other drivers and enviromental friendly'? well that'd be a catastrophy. i bet its a bunch of some idiots who don't know a thing about cars

[Cotterik]

top gear rocks, whoever doesnt like it is either too opinionated or just a general asshole who doesnt get the humour of english men.

[:Exige:]

F***ING BA**ARDS! Its a friggn TV programme not an as*ing educational programme. Cookery programmes influence the use of knives which can be used for murder .. better ban that too hadnt we? Its meant to be for entertainment, not to teach us sh*t like that. We hear enough of that on the news for gods sake. This is the government trying to spread propaganda basically because they are too bone idle to teach people through other methods. Basically theyre banning us from watching fast cars .. to hell with it, theyre gonna have to ban F1 too, that promoted more dangerous and faster driving.

[targa]

edit: cleared

[Wolf03]

Someone pass me me my gun because I'm about to set on a mission to put a hole through ever single Transport 2000's member's head. I love that show and even though it is not shown in Canada, I still download the episodes because I think they're awesome.

But can anyone tell me what's the difference between Top Gear and Fifth Gear. Sorry for the noobish question.

[:Exige:]

Someone pass me me my gun because I'm about to set on a mission to put a hole through ever single Transport 2000's member's head. I love that show and even though it is not shown in Canada, I still download the episodes because I think they're awesome.

But can anyone tell me what's the difference between Top Gear and Fifth Gear. Sorry for the noobish question.
5th gear is the version made purely for Channel 5. It used the old Top Gear format and old presenters. Its basically the less entertaining side show of Top Gear.

[Mustang]

Bunch of Berks at "Transport 2000 - The national environmental transport body" have set in motion an underhand campaign to skew the results of a survey commissioned by the government into the type of programming that is funded by the license fee.
DAMN THEM!!




Feel free to contact either of those addresses to let them know that this campaign exists and that any data that looks suspiciously skewed should be ignored.

Also feel free to contact either of those addresses to let them know that you enjoy Top Gear's current format.

You can also contact Transport 2000 and let them know what a pathetic bunch of effluent they are.

I don't particularly like Transport 2000's ideas but do I set up campaigns to have them banned?

No.

Should Transport 2000 be allowed to attempt to get things banned just because they don't like them?

No.

i will surely email them :)



... To call for more balanced reporting on transport, ie putting the environmental/social angle, and for the BBC to play a higher profile role in educating the public about sustainability issues, for example the contribution of transport to climate change.

what!?!?.. the whole point in top gear is to show how great motoring is, we dont want it fooked up with shitty things like prius'


... To call for `motormania` programmes such as Top Gear to be scrapped on the grounds that they glamorise speed and the use of vehicles with high fuel consumption.

can you imageing if top gear was "the how to drive your car properly and now with info on emissions show" wouldnt have the same ring to it. i mean 5th gear has stuff on there about normal cars but its just nota s good as top gear, im sure that matra wont agree with me there for one reason


Campaigners argue that Top Gear has a number of key faults:

•It glamorises speed and fails to make the connection with danger on the roads.

which is why they always test the cars on the test track, and when they do get shitty cars like the prius / hyundai accent on there they take them on the road and do proper road tests


•It encourages an obsession with unnecessarily powerful and therefore heavily polluting cars.
thats like saying if you have alot of money you shouldnt be allowed to buy a nice expensive fast car because it pollutes the world. does this mean that they are also gonna try and stop companies like TVR, ferrari, lambo pagani ? retards!

•Through use of Jeremy Clarkson as presenter, with his distinctive image, it is in danger of encouraging a ‘yobbish’ attitude on the road. as clarkson says himself he is a fourty something guy with a bit og a podge most 40+ year olds do have one :p


•It does not focus enough, if at all, on responsible driving, ‘greener’ cars, road safety or the need to cut car journeys and use alternatives where possible.BOLLOCKS!


•Through its recurring ‘macho’ themes of speed and power, it fails to include the interests of most women in its programmes.
have you ever seen the number of women in the studio, usually way outnumbers the number of guys


Transport 2000’s suggestion is for a new programme, perhaps called Third Gear, devoted to encouraging responsible motoring based on less environmentally damaging cars, considerate and safety-conscious driving, and exploration of alternatives to the car.

haha ok as long as it doesnt replace TG and they do a comparison to see which is most popular

[UCR]

Ive emailed them.

Ive brought up several points such as the reviews that give the veiwer advise when they come to life threatening situations ( like when they did the drive into a lake review ) giving us advise on how to get out of your car alive, etc, etc...

[emperor]

I think Top Gear is a great programme. I love their sense of humor.
The best thing in this programme is that they are showing dreamcars. I mean, where else can I see McLaren, Gallardo, Maybach, Phantom (to name just a few)? On a parking lot in front of supermarket, or maybe in driving school?
(BTW: Imagine Stig testing some car on a track and Jimmy saying something like this:
"Right now Stig should accelerate going out of that corner, but he won't, because the excesive amount of gas fumes created by it could kill up to three and a half fully grown
llamas and besides who would want to endanger his life by going over 40 mph.")
I just hope Jimmy Clarkson hears about it asap and that they will make a whole episode (or two) about those idiots from Transport 2000.

[Esperante]

We should ban all news channels because showing bad things like murder incourages people to blow other people's brains out.

[UCR]

i think we should make a poll on ucp. (whoever thinks this is a stupid idea).

And then show them the link.

[emperor]

i think we should make a poll on ucp. (whoever thinks this is a stupid idea).

And then show them the link.

I think we don't have to make a poll. :)
95% think this a stupid idea.
4% think this is a stupuid idea, but they were drunk, so they've hit the wrong button.
1% statistical error.

[:Exige:]

I bet £50 that NOTHING changes on Top Gear as a result of this.




*reward must be collected in person* :)

[Matra et Alpine]

JC will likely upset them AGAIN by tearing up their report :)

Trasnport 2000 are seemingly next aiming to have Postman Pat banned as the cat doesn't wear a seatbelt :)

[Matra et Alpine]

i mean 5th gear has stuff on there about normal cars but its just nota s good as top gear, im sure that matra wont agree with me there for one reason
3 words - one hyphenated .......

Vicki Butler-Henderson :)

TG wins by a long way. Tiff's too big-headed, at least the TG guys admit they're w@nkers at driving :)

[quote] as clarkson says himself he is a fourty something guy with a bit og a podge most 40+ year olds do have one :p{/quote]
what you saying ??
:)

[Mustang]

as clarkson says himself he is a fourty something guy with a bit og a podge most 40+ year olds do have one :p
what you saying ??
:)

can you prove you dont ? :D

[carlover]

HAHAHAHAH!!!! ROFLMFAO "third gear"! :D :D :D :D

It encoureges safe driving, so that when you go the speed limit in your tiny fuel efficitent car, you can get smashed to pieces by some SUV going 30 over the limit. :rolleyes:

[Wolf03]

5th gear is the version made purely for Channel 5. It used the old Top Gear format and old presenters. Its basically the less entertaining side show of Top Gear.

So is Top Gear cancelled because the last episode I found is from last year?

[Matra et Alpine]

So is Top Gear cancelled because the last episode I found is from last year?
Don't panic, just the kiddies got loose again with their crayons and they've written a nasty press release abotu TG. ACant' wasit to see JC comment about it when ......

Top Gear returns on May 22nd :)

www.bbc.com/topgear

[:Exige:]

You get used to old farts like this when you start airsofting. Every day you get stupid mothers saying "BB guns can kill people". A parent who is leading the anti-gun movement once said "BB guns can be converted into weapons of mass destruction". Well so can hamsters if you have enough plutonium. None of them have a valid argument and you just have to live with it .. nothing is gonna happen. Always a laugh to see everyone freak out though, myself included :)

[carlover]

This reminds me of the commericial GM showed during the olympics where some kid did a whole bunch of crazy tricks in a Corvette. Some angry moms (they get really ticked when you call them that :) ) thought we were steal our parents car keys and drive there car upside down through a contruction site. Do they think we're f***in morons!?! :rolleyes:


A parent who is leading the anti-gun movement once said "BB guns can be converted into weapons of mass destruction".
I bet 20 bucks it was a conservatist. My toaster can be converted into a WMD, and so can a cell phone, or a car, or a house, or a bush, or a cat, or anything else. Just stick a bomb in it and you can get a, "WMD". :rolleyes:

(it's sad, but some people will beilieve that anyone under 18 who sees any kind of violence anywhere is gonna grow up to be a terrorist.) :mad:

[taz_rocks_miami]

You get used to old farts like this when you start airsofting. Every day you get stupid mothers saying "BB guns can kill people". A parent who is leading the anti-gun movement once said "BB guns can be converted into weapons of mass destruction". Well so can hamsters if you have enough plutonium. None of them have a valid argument and you just have to live with it .. nothing is gonna happen. Always a laugh to see everyone freak out though, myself included :)

Sometimes these busy-bodies have a strange form of getting their way, let's hope this time they don't :mad:

[Coventrysucks]

But can anyone tell me what's the difference between Top Gear and Fifth Gear. Sorry for the noobish question.

Top Gear has reviews about exciting cars, with lots of humour in between.

5th Gear is rubbish.

They have far too much time devoted to competitions and "exciting" reviews like the one of the Seat Toledo, which consisted of the guy walking round the car, parked up on a busy Barcelona street saying; "yep, looks good, boot's big" then a 5 second clip of him driving it a 5mph down the same busy street saying "drives great. Oh look, a man in a Mercedes!"

[taz_rocks_miami]

Top Gear has reviews about exciting cars, with lots of humour in between.

5th Gear is rubbish.

They have far too much time devoted to competitions and "exciting" reviews like the one of the Seat Toledo, which consisted of the guy walking round the car, parked up on a busy Barcelona street saying; "yep, looks good, boot's big" then a 5 second clip of him driving it a 5mph down the same busy street saying "drives great. Oh look, a man in a Mercedes!"

In Mexico there's a show that's just as bad a 5th gear, it's called Autoshow. All they do is film the cars down a two lane road while they read what sounds like the press release for the car. It's really pathetic!! I e-mailed them once and told them to watch Top Gear to see how a proper car program is made :)

[Spastik_Roach]

Gentleman. Load your guns. We're goin' tree hugger huntin'

[:Exige:]

Gentleman. Load your guns. We're goin' tree hugger huntin'
Yeah baby!
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[Matra et Alpine]

Yeah baby!


and we mean BUSINESS :)

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[Mustang]

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[Spastik_Roach]

I wanna go where her pistol is pointing:D

[whiteballz]

@ mustang - is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me


@ matra - compensating for something there mate?


@ exige, big guns ;)

[Mustang]

bahahaha nice on there sam :p

[my porsche]

spaz...her right thigh? hhahahahaha

[whiteballz]

her right thigh is more then you would ever get :D

without money that is

[:Exige:]

http://www.phonusbolonus.com/sp/10/redneck_swiss_army_gun.jpg

[whiteballz]

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

thats solid exige

[Esperante]

http://www.phonusbolonus.com/sp/10/redneck_swiss_army_gun.jpg

Talkin 'bout my geeeehhhhhhneration....

[my porsche]

if there was a woman (besides rolls royce icon) on that, it would be all you would ever need in life :p

[emperor]

if there was a woman (besides rolls royce icon) on that, it would be all you would ever need in life :p
Not all, condoms are missing (or maybe they are inside the handle of this thingy)

[MRR]

They will try to ban performance cars period next time!! :mad:

The anti-car MUST BE STOPPED!!!!

[Mustang]

Not all, condoms are missing (or maybe they are inside the handle of this thingy)


its all MP would ever need ;) :p

[Turbonutter55]

"Third Gear" HA! Probably because they think 4th, 5th, 6th (if you're lucky) and 7th (if you're obscenely rich), plus 8th through 50-somethingth (if you drive a tractor) are for irresponsible drivers who might go over 30 on an empty motorway.
Think Mustang. Three speeds, and embodies everything they hate.

[clutch-monkey]

They will try to ban performance cars period next time!! :mad:

The anti-car MUST BE STOPPED!!!!
me and my cousin are already checking our equipment...:)