Most Important supercar ever

[blackslbenz]

hey fellas...Ive been a long time lurker here and finally decided to post. :)

So I had a discussion with my brother about the most important supercar ever made and it came to two cars.
The Mclaren F1 for how performance much performance was possible for the road...still one of the best after all these years.

Ferrari F40 how it combined Fun exclusivity soul and performance.

so what do you guys think is the most important supercar ever made that changed the way supercars are though about.

[ScionDriver]

Either the McLaren because it changed the entire way supercars are made and thought of. My other nominee is the Mercedes SL Gullwing because that was the beginning, it was the first true supercar, it was the first car that made kids lust after a car. Its still stunning to this day.

[Vaigra]

The Miura..for being the first mid-engined supercar...if i remember correctly lol

[Clique]

The Miura..for being the first mid-engined supercar...if i remember correctly lol

Yeah I agree. My 4th Favourite Lambo ;)

[Coventrysucks]

Either the McLaren because it changed the entire way supercars are made and thought of. My other nominee is the Mercedes SL Gullwing because that was the beginning, it was the first true supercar, it was the first car that made kids lust after a car. Its still stunning to this day.

A slick body over the rather dissapointing mechanicals of a regular MB saloon?

[6'bore]

hey fellas...Ive been a long time lurker here and finally decided to post. :)


You have been here a day.

[Matra et Alpine]

Jaguar E-Type for bringing performance and beautiful looks within the budget of more owners than any car before.

[Coventrysucks]

You have been here a day.

You can read the posts without being a member, smart ass. :rolleyes:

[targa]

countach.....i think

as i remember the R/T article saying, it was the first "supercar" with a longitudinal drive train------

which i think is awsome

[Cotterik]

F40 for me, its been my favourite supercar since i was a wee boy

it provides everything that a supercar should do; raw speed, excitement, pure race car mechanics, 200+ mph and the passion behind a brand like ferrari. There arent any computers helping you to drive it, when its driven you DRIVE it. Thats why its the best.

[CHEESE-TACULAR]

are we forgetting the Lotus Esprit? that car was amazing, pulling out of a 4-cylinder what lambos of the time pulled out of 12. with handeling to match and great looks it did everything right. weve watched it evolve and i am certainly looking forward to the next version/generation :)

[ScionDriver]

A slick body over the rather dissapointing mechanicals of a regular MB saloon?
Well I am basing this off of what they aid on Top Gear, they made quite a good argument for it being the first supercar. I still think its quite a machine, for the time.

[CdocZ]

F40 was an important one........but the Mclaren F1 definitely redefined "supercar", from being some cool thing, to being the type of thing like the Pagani Zonda, and Koenigsegg CCR: The modern idea of a supercar.

[Rockefella]

Seems pretty easy to me.. I'm agreeing w/ the McLaren F1, it's just so damn good.

[CdocZ]

Seems pretty easy to me.. I'm agreeing w/ the McLaren F1, it's just so damn good.

Yeah, not exactly many cars hold their records for a decade or so. Crazy car. So crazy. So awesome too.

[taz_rocks_miami]

The MB Gullwing, it's considered the first ever supercar :)

[Fleet 500]

1969 Dodge Charger Daytona, 426-Hemi.
The first stock car to exceed 200 mph on a closed course.

[CHEESE-TACULAR]

1969 Dodge Charger Daytona, 426-Hemi.
The first stock car to exceed 200 mph on a closed course.
that aint a supercar, just a big engine

[Fleet 500]

that aint a supercar, just a big engine
Yeah, a big engine which pushed the car to 200 mph!
My Cadillacs have a big engine, too. But they ain't supercars- the Hemi Daytona certainly is.

[Rockefella]

that aint a supercar, just a big engine
There really is no exact definition and it's all personal opinion so I guess Fleet's answer can stand.

[pimento]

Going on the arguement of the McLaren F1 re-defining supercars for today's batch, I'd have to argue that the Bugatti EB110 did it first. That was the first to combine opulance and phenominal speed. That and it had 4 turbos on a 3.5 litre V12, which is just awesome.

[BMW325]

i think the Porsche 959 should be considered

[Spastik_Roach]

Mclaren despite its apparent ultimate pwness, did have slightly wooden steering, and a bit of a clunky gear change. But all great supercars have flaws.

But the Miura really did lead the way.

[Fleet 500]

There really is no exact definition and it's all personal opinion so I guess Fleet's answer can stand.
Yeah, I think so, too. After all, a '69 Daytona is not an economy car!

You know, I would have to look it up, but I think the term "Super Car" (meaning even more powerful and faster than a "muscle car") was written about in the late '60s car magazines. In general, back then, "Super Cars" were those that ran the 1/4 mile in the 13-second bracket or better.

[taz_rocks_miami]

Yeah, a big engine which pushed the car to 200 mph!
My Cadillacs have a big engine, too. But they ain't supercars- the Hemi Daytona certainly is.

True, the MB Gullwing is called a supercar becuase it was one of the first if not the first production car to excede 150+ MPH, if you use the same criteria for the 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona, it qualifies 200 MPH is super in anyones book! Plus both the MB and the Dodge were also succesfull race cars.

[henk4]

Bugatti 35, winner of most races ever, and still useable on the road. Alfa Romeo 8C2300/2900 might also qualify.

[kinan.f]

Yeah I agree. My 4th Favourite Lambo ;)

I'll join my voice to the Miura club.......

[Mustang]

can you class the 67 mustang as an american supoercar ?

if not the miura

[Matra et Alpine]

Yeah, I think so, too. After all, a '69 Daytona is not an economy car!

You know, I would have to look it up, but I think the term "Super Car" (meaning even more powerful and faster than a "muscle car") was written about in the late '60s car magazines. In general, back then, "Super Cars" were those that ran the 1/4 mile in the 13-second bracket or better.
I think that's the US usage of the term.

For the rest it's MUCH MUCH more than just performance, hence the Miura becomes one of the first listed :)

[fpv_gtho]

Hard to say, but i think something like the Countach really set the groundwork for how most modern supercars are still packaged.

[CdocZ]

In general, back then, "Super Cars" were those that ran the 1/4 mile in the 13-second bracket or better.

So a 1970 Camaro RS SS 396 was a supercar, or very very close? Sounds kind of wierd to me.

[Fleet 500]

I think that's the US usage of the term.

For the rest it's MUCH MUCH more than just performance, hence the Miura becomes one of the first listed :)
Yes, it definitely is a U.S. term.

[Fleet 500]

So a 1970 Camaro RS SS 396 was a supercar, or very very close? Sounds kind of wierd to me.
That would probably be classifed as a muscle car, but as you said, very very close because with low enough gears (numerically high), they would run low-14s/high 13s with no modifications.
The Super Cars were the top guns from each car make- the 454 Chevelles, 427 Fairlanes, 428 Mustangs, 427 Yenko Camaros, Hemicudas, 440-6 packs '69 Road Runners, '70 Buick GSX 455 Stage 1s, Olds 455 4-4-2s, Pontiac 455 SD Trans Ams...
All of these could run well into the 13s, some could run in the 12s.

[aNOBLEman]

I'd say that the Muira would be the most important supercar for being the first mid-engine supercar (I think).

[Manik]

I'd say that the Muira would be the most important supercar for being the first mid-engine supercar (I think).

I agree by saying the Muira was the most important supercar, it was a massive step forward in the evolution of sports cars. One thing special about the car is it's 60 degree transversely mounted engine. That is what helped make the car special in it's day. :)

[Prius]

I would kinda say the Vector, because it was proof that America had more up it's sleeve that slow, uygly useless gasguzzlers, and bad haircuts. (-JC) :D :D

[Vaigra]

I'd say that the Muira would be the most important supercar for being the first mid-engine supercar (I think).
did you read the other posts before yours? ;)

[sunk]

Nay, it is the FIAT Itala (1904).
10 litres of fun put in 4 cylinders =50bhp.
The other most powerful cars had 20bhp or less.

[Koenigsegg_CC]

The Miura..for being the first mid-engined supercar...if i remember correctly lol

I'll agree with that. Every supercar that's been created is brilliant (well nearly all anyway) but there's only a few that have been important. The Miura was a revolution in supercar building.

[Fleet 500]

I would kinda say the Vector, because it was proof that America had more up it's sleeve that slow, uygly useless gasguzzlers, and bad haircuts. (-JC) :D :D
What were the "slow, ugly, useless gas guzzlers?" :confused:

[aNOBLEman]

I would kinda say the Vector, because it was proof that America had more up it's sleeve that slow, uygly useless gasguzzlers, and bad haircuts. (-JC) :D :D

If you say that then I say the S7TT because it's American and it's WAY better than any Vector...and more reliable. :)

[Prius]

What were the "slow, ugly, useless gas guzzlers?" :confused:
what the big three specilized in, while america was rolling out SUVS and mundane, slow sedans, someone mixed it up and accually made a fast american car.