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SIMPLETON
07-05-2005, 09:54 AM
This will be the first Challenge for time trials in GT4. The rule are:



Each comp. starts Monday morning, ending Sunday at midnight.
The winner of the previous comp. will choose the car, track, tires, modifications of the new comp.
If the time submitted by someone is unreallistically fast it will be excluded.
You will PM your best time to me.
The one with the fastest time will be the winner.
If you have a time that you think will win, take a picture as proof. If you win you will have to present this photo as proof.
If I find out that any time is false, goes against any rules, or is done through any use of unfair play or cheatery, the user will be banned from the competition for one week and will be stripped of all their points.
Scoring goes like this:
1st place recieves 10 points. 2nd place get 8. 3rd gets 6. 4th gets 4. 5nd gets 2. Everybody else recieves 1 point. There will be a secret time that, under the rules, should be easy to obtain. This will be called the target time. If you meet the target time you will recieve an additional 1 point.

This week the challenge will be done in Arcade Mode. The track will be the Nuburgring. The car will be the Ausy Ford Falcon Race car. You can use any tire you want, although for this challenge there will be NO tuning, the only stat you can tune is the top speed. TCS/ASM is optional.

Rockefella
07-05-2005, 10:03 AM
Good plan, very promising. Especially like the PM idea.

twinspark
07-05-2005, 10:07 AM
Good plan, very promising. Especially like the PM idea. Yeah, we don't know the results until sunday. It'll make the competition a bit more exciting.

Quiggs
07-05-2005, 10:38 AM
TCS/ASM off, right? I don't plan on using them, but someone else might, y'know?

SIMPLETON
07-05-2005, 10:43 AM
I've just made modifications to the rules. So now we all know. Also take note of of rule no.6. If you win you will have to present that that photo.

baddabang
07-05-2005, 10:46 AM
I would like to join but I cant find my GT4 game. Time to clean the bedroom :(

jorismo
07-05-2005, 10:47 AM
I would like to join but I cant find my GT4 game. Time to clean the bedroom :(

seems like a good plan to me too :D

Cotterik
07-05-2005, 11:04 AM
y is this in the 'Automobilia, Modeling & Trivia' section? shouldnt it be miscellaneous or something..

Rockefella
07-05-2005, 11:35 AM
Just turned a semi-high 6-minute lap... I think I'll get it down to like 6:35 though

Quiggs
07-05-2005, 12:08 PM
Just turned a semi-high 6-minute lap... I think I'll get it down to like 6:35 though
6:35 was my first lap. Pick it up slacker.

SIMPLETON
07-05-2005, 12:12 PM
You havent even hit the target time yet, keep trying. That car is very fast. For the amount of power it has its extremely stable. You should be able to easily get sub 6:30's. If you need to get some extra practice take some of the DTM cars for a spin aroud there. They seem to be a very good stepping stone to the Falcon XR8

Rockefella
07-05-2005, 12:12 PM
You havent even hit the target time yet, keep trying. That car is very fast. For the amount of power it has its extremely stable. You should be able to easily get sub 6:30's. If you need to get some extra practice take some of the DTM cars for a spin aroud there. They seem to be a very good stepping stone to the Falcon XR8
Oh I know, I was just doing a quick warm-up lap, I'll prob. do it like 5 or 6 more times.

my porsche
07-05-2005, 12:48 PM
i cant even find the damn thing! i looked in ford and also fpv...no sign... :confused:

Quiggs
07-05-2005, 12:50 PM
You have to buy it in GT mode for it to be available in Arcade. It's $450,000.

Rockefella
07-05-2005, 12:51 PM
i cant even find the damn thing! i looked in ford and also fpv...no sign... :confused:
Its in Ford Classics.

lightweight
07-05-2005, 01:48 PM
It's ok to use RSS tyres?
Can I play with weight/power percentages?
TC off?

6:15 with RSS tyres, stock weight/power, TC off.
The limit is somewhere near 6:10. If someone beats that, he's either a liar or Niki Lauda....

SIMPLETON
07-05-2005, 01:55 PM
yes
no
optional

I've managed a 6:17 but then i keep crashing trying to go faster

my porsche
07-05-2005, 02:33 PM
wow, my best of 3 laps was 6:55 :(

i lose, and werent we supposed to keep the benchmark time and our own times secret?

lightweight
07-05-2005, 03:01 PM
Well.....errrrr.....How shall I put this....
I'd like to withdraw my comment on the 6:10 limit. Better do it 6:05:D

whiteballz
07-05-2005, 03:20 PM
just putting the game in now, though i will have to buy the damned car in GT mode first :mad:

Dino Scuderia
07-05-2005, 03:45 PM
Did a 6:17.8 my second lap ever in this car...first lap was 6:22, don't know where on the track I can gain 7.8 seconds but I'll keep trying.

Rockefella
07-05-2005, 04:21 PM
I've gotten down to about 6:28-6:30.. need to get the feel for the car though

whiteballz
07-05-2005, 04:36 PM
the brakes on that car are f*cking phenominal!
it just keeps stopping! half the time i kept braking too hard into corners :mad: damned good australian engineering :P

oh by the way, first run was 6:21

Dino Scuderia
07-05-2005, 04:51 PM
the brakes on that car are f*cking phenominal!
it just keeps stopping! half the time i kept braking too hard into corners :mad: damned good australian engineering :P

oh by the way, first run was 6:21

True, a lot of time can be made with good braking.

Jack_Bauer
07-05-2005, 04:52 PM
If someone beats that, he's either a liar or Niki Lauda....

I don't really think I want to be Niki Lauda on this circuit, the Norschleife is where Lauda almost got torched to death! :eek:

I'll stick to being Stefan Bellof, or maybe Jackie Ickx! :D

Rockefella
07-05-2005, 05:07 PM
True, the brakes are good, but I have trouble getting the feel of cornering in the car. Sometimes it grips well, but once you get to the point of its max potential, it just goes into self-destruct.

whiteballz
07-05-2005, 05:23 PM
i dont think ive reached "self destruct" my first run was the best im going to get, i cant get close to it anymore, 6:30 is the best since then weird. and im not going off the track or anything...

Dino Scuderia
07-05-2005, 05:26 PM
I've discovered that the car is actually faster with the TCS off but if you put a wheel in the grass and get it spinning....you're screwed.

whiteballz
07-05-2005, 05:34 PM
im driving TCS off. its not all that bad for me when i get a wheel off, only when i put it down a gear or two, then get a driven wheel back onto tarmac, then that spins me...

Jack_Bauer
07-05-2005, 05:41 PM
I've discovered that the car is actually faster with the TCS off.

Yeah I noticed that too, I instantly knocked over 5 secs off my best time when I switched off the TC. I suppose at 1350kg it is a pretty heavy car for a racer, and the RSS tyres give it muchos traction.

CHEESE-TACULAR
07-05-2005, 05:42 PM
You have to buy it in GT mode for it to be available in Arcade. It's $450,000.
waste that much on a ford racer? now i have to wait for the next round... :mad:

Quiggs
07-05-2005, 05:46 PM
It's a pretty stellar car. 600hp, ~3000lbs, great brakes. Just buy it.

If you don't have the funds, go to Special Condition Hall, run the Rally d' Capri under 'Easy,' and after you win both races (very easily I might add) you get $10,000 from that, and the Toyota Raid Rally car or whatever it's called. Sell it for $250,000. Repeat and you've got ~$500,000.

whiteballz
07-05-2005, 05:51 PM
Argh i keep wiping out about 3/4 through the track now!

i can pull a 7 sec lead on my time, but rather then let off a tiny bit and creep the time up
i go for it all in one lump. and then wipe. stupid me.. :mad:

Dino Scuderia
07-05-2005, 05:57 PM
Argh i keep wiping out about 3/4 through the track now!

i can pull a 7 sec lead on my time, but rather then let off a tiny bit and creep the time up
i go for it all in one lump. and then wipe. stupid me.. :mad:

Take a little break, mate.
:)

CHEESE-TACULAR
07-05-2005, 07:42 PM
It's a pretty stellar car. 600hp, ~3000lbs, great brakes. Just buy it.

If you don't have the funds, go to Special Condition Hall, run the Rally d' Capri under 'Easy,' and after you win both races (very easily I might add) you get $10,000 from that, and the Toyota Raid Rally car or whatever it's called. Sell it for $250,000. Repeat and you've got ~$500,000.
sounds pretty easy, maybe ill try it tomorrow-i had alot of money from the 1000 miles but i burnt it on...err...classics and a mercedes SL55-that car i like

honestly i'd rather use 500,000 on a Cusco Impreza or a similar JGTC lower class race car, but it sounds good, ill give it a good think through :)

Dino Scuderia
07-06-2005, 05:52 AM
Don't know if a 6:05 is possible but sub 6:10's definitely are, I'm under 6:14 and I made a few errors. TCS off is the only way to get that low.

my porsche
07-06-2005, 12:48 PM
so far my best = 6.50~ awww hail yee-uh

im horrible i truly am

Rockefella
07-06-2005, 12:49 PM
so far my best = 6.50~ awww hail yee-uh

im horrible i truly am
You must be braking too much. Try to hit the apexes and remember, brake into the turns (in a straight line) get off the gas/brake, and then accelerate out. (Slow in => fast out)

Quiggs
07-06-2005, 12:52 PM
You must be braking too much. Try to hit the apexes and remember, brake into the turns (in a straight line) get off the gas/brake, and then accelerate out. (Slow in => fast out)
Eff that. Brake late, put the power down early, and come out almost sideways. Make sure you tag the inside rumble strips, and the outside ones on the way out. That's how we do it in PA. Not that Dirty Jerzey stylz.

Rockefella
07-06-2005, 12:53 PM
Eff that. Brake late, put the power down early, and come out almost sideways. Make sure you tag the inside rumble strips, and the outside ones on the way out. That's how we do it in PA. Not that Dirty Jerzey stylz.
And turn a lap time 2x slower than that of the competitors. :)

my porsche
07-06-2005, 12:55 PM
ok enough jersey v. pa

ok ill try, currently my brother is hogging the tvand playing halo, so when hes done ill play gt4

Rockefella
07-06-2005, 12:57 PM
ok enough jersey v. pa
The battle won't stop until either I or Quiggs dies.

my porsche
07-06-2005, 01:02 PM
or if i just say, chill out both of your cities are equal [ly bad] then bam it should stop, but it wont :D

Rockefella
07-06-2005, 01:03 PM
or if i just say, chill out both of your cities are equal [ly bad] then bam it should stop, but it wont :D
At least we're not hicks. [ducks]

Quiggs
07-06-2005, 01:07 PM
At least we're not hicks. [ducks]
Oh snap. I smell a PA/NJ/TX rumble comin'...


And turn a lap time 2x slower than that of the competitors.Pff... My way is faster and more fun. Take a seat.

my porsche
07-06-2005, 01:09 PM
yeah quiggs has got some pretty good lap times :p



theres hicks everywhere...go ahead, look :)

Dino Scuderia
07-06-2005, 01:42 PM
so far my best = 6.50~ awww hail yee-uh

im horrible i truly am

You can do it, you have a few more days. The trick to the 'ring is doing a lot of laps on it and learning everything about it, you have to think two turns ahead to go fast because this track is constantly moving.

Some turns I go in fast and brake late...others I ease the brakes on to scrub just enough speed off to make the turn. With TCS off the Falcon will try to plow through the turn pushing the front tires...just take it easy in the middle of the turn because you can make up a lot on acceleration and top speed on the fast sections. When you think you're going slow in this car, and most, that's when you're driving smooth and making a good lap.

shockwaveracing
07-07-2005, 03:21 AM
6:19 was my outlap so there is definitely room for improvement...somewhere under 6:10 is definitely possible but i haven't got there yet... high 6:12's aint bad though...

Dino Scuderia
07-07-2005, 06:16 AM
Squeezing those seconds out which are under 6:15 ain't easy. The ghost car becomes your friend as well as your enemy.

shockwaveracing
07-07-2005, 06:43 AM
indeed with the aid of the ghost i am under 6:10 now... :)

Dino Scuderia
07-07-2005, 06:53 AM
indeed with the aid of the ghost i am under 6:10 now... :)

Way to go, mate! Sounds like it'll be a close competition.

lightweight
07-07-2005, 09:10 AM
6:09:200
If I play without the ghost car I do better times. It seems that I try harder when I see it, and want to pass it. But (surprise,surprise) I mess up. I know I can lower it 3 or 4 seconds :mad:
I just admire the drivers that raced the 'Ring with the F1 cars until the '70s. Does anybody know where Lauda crashed? I don't know the bends names, so it would help if somebody posted how many seconds does it take to get there:D
I know it was a left hander, though and I suspect that it's the left hander, after the 2:17 checkpoint. Is Lauda a member?:rolleyes:

Rockefella
07-07-2005, 09:17 AM
6:09:200
If I play without the ghost car I do better times. It seems that I try harder when I see it, and want to pass it. But (surprise,surprise) I mess up. I know I can lower it 3 or 4 seconds :mad:
I just admire the drivers that raced the 'Ring with the F1 cars until the '70s. Does anybody know where Lauda crashed? I don't know the bends names, so it would help if somebody posted how many seconds does it take to get there:D
I know it was a left hander, though and I suspect that it's the left hander, after the 2:17 checkpoint. Is Lauda a member?:rolleyes:
I thought they raced on a shortened version of the Nur?

Jack_Bauer
07-07-2005, 09:34 AM
I thought the whole point of this competition was that we weren't gonna post our times?!?!? :confused:

Your all spoiling the fun! :D I think everyone should keep schtum from now on and just PM your times to SIMPLETON, build up the suspense a little.

Dino Scuderia
07-07-2005, 09:40 AM
6:09:200
If I play without the ghost car I do better times. It seems that I try harder when I see it, and want to pass it. But (surprise,surprise) I mess up. I know I can lower it 3 or 4 seconds :mad:
I just admire the drivers that raced the 'Ring with the F1 cars until the '70s. Does anybody know where Lauda crashed? I don't know the bends names, so it would help if somebody posted how many seconds does it take to get there:D
I know it was a left hander, though and I suspect that it's the left hander, after the 2:17 checkpoint. Is Lauda a member?:rolleyes:

Agreed, I generally make my best time without the ghost.

Jack_Bauer
07-07-2005, 09:55 AM
I just admire the drivers that raced the 'Ring with the F1 cars until the '70s. Does anybody know where Lauda crashed? I don't know the bends names, so it would help if somebody posted how many seconds does it take to get there:D
I know it was a left hander, though and I suspect that it's the left hander, after the 2:17 checkpoint. Is Lauda a member?:rolleyes:

The corner Lauda crashed at doesn't have any official name but is often referred to as the "Lauda Kink" (or some sick puppies like to call it the "Grill-Kurve"! :eek: ). It usually takes me approx 2:40 to get there. I think the left hander you were referring to is Breidscheid (3rd gear, with the red & white stripy wall on the outside?). The Lauda kink is shortly after leaving there, sweeping right and then down a medium long straight, then the flat-out Lauda kink followed by the right hand hairpin of Bergwerk. It was a pretty strange corner to crash at really because it's just flat out, no bumps, no nasty cambers, pretty straight forward really. I don't know the exact details of the crash, maybe he was trying to lap a backmarker or something? :confused:

shockwaveracing
07-07-2005, 10:46 PM
6:09:200
If I play without the ghost car I do better times. It seems that I try harder when I see it, and want to pass it. But (surprise,surprise) I mess up. I know I can lower it 3 or 4 seconds :mad:
I just admire the drivers that raced the 'Ring with the F1 cars until the '70s. Does anybody know where Lauda crashed? I don't know the bends names, so it would help if somebody posted how many seconds does it take to get there:D
I know it was a left hander, though and I suspect that it's the left hander, after the 2:17 checkpoint. Is Lauda a member?:rolleyes:


you might have to find those extra few seconds... ;)

Blue Supra
07-08-2005, 12:51 AM
im seriously CBF'd trying.

2 laps. best i got was 6:35.

lightweight
07-08-2005, 06:33 AM
you might have to find those extra few seconds... ;)

:eek:

shockwaveracing
07-09-2005, 07:38 PM
for everyone wanting to go under 6:10, lower the speed max of the car to 310 or 320 (it is allowed for this challenge), it shortens the final drive ratio and i think it may even modify the downforce...

Jack_Bauer
07-09-2005, 08:21 PM
for everyone wanting to go under 6:10, lower the speed max of the car to 310 or 320 (it is allowed for this challenge), it shortens the final drive ratio and i think it may even modify the downforce...

Do you not find the car ends up hitting the limiter in 6th on some of the long straights???

I just drop it down slightly to 330kph, seems to work pretty well for me. :)

When does this competition finish by the way, tomorrow night? :confused:

Dino Scuderia
07-09-2005, 08:23 PM
Yeah, lowering below 330 is not the way to go or at least not for me, and it does not affect downforce to lower or raise the speed.

shockwaveracing
07-10-2005, 01:18 AM
Yeah, lowering below 330 is not the way to go or at least not for me, and it does not affect downforce to lower or raise the speed.

top speed of a real life V8 Supercar is around 305kph so don't go doubting my theory too much if these cars were designed to be as close to the real life models as possible... the downforce may not be affected but the change in gear ratio makes it much quicker when you set it to 320...


Do you not find the car ends up hitting the limiter in 6th on some of the long straights???

nope i hit the limiter at the end of the very long straight but only for a brief moment and that was it, so it would have done little too effect my time...

SIMPLETON
07-10-2005, 08:44 AM
OK everybody this is the last day. So PM your times in soon.

Dino Scuderia
07-11-2005, 04:57 AM
So....who won, mate?

shockwaveracing
07-11-2005, 06:39 AM
anybody crack 6:08???