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which was the most powerful engine in motor-racing?
the 1.5T BMW of brabhams in 1980s?
SIMPLETON
07-10-2005, 08:34 AM
pffff......... obviously top fuel dragsters
250 GTO
07-10-2005, 08:51 AM
What do you mean by powerful?
Jet engines have like 12,000 lbs of thrust per engine. Some times more. They race those things on the salt flats.
lightweight
07-10-2005, 01:42 PM
The Brabham is said to be the most powerful F1 engine. However it must be noted that it was a qualifying special. The race trim engine was more like 1000 (just guessing). The Brabham engineers say that they never actually dynoed the engine, as the dyno could measure up to 1400 hp. So the 1500 hp figure is just a very well funded speculation (the engineers KNOW the engine they are building).
The thread is a bit general, as you can mention even a spaceship engine. If some form of categorization was imposed, then it would make info exchange a lot easier:D
scottie300z
07-10-2005, 04:21 PM
Space shuttles. They have like 37 million horses.
Quiggs
07-10-2005, 04:33 PM
http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Dictionary/SATURN/DI162G1.jpg
IBrake4Rainbows
07-10-2005, 04:36 PM
Saturn 5 OWNAGE.
Most Powerful.Thing.Ever.
@wall
07-10-2005, 04:42 PM
Saturn 5 OWNAGE.
Most Powerful.Thing.Ever.
lmfao, well i know after eating a vindaloo i produce similar amounts of power... :D
IBrake4Rainbows
07-10-2005, 04:45 PM
lmfao, well i know after eating a vindaloo i produce similar amounts of power... :D
Can you transport you, 2 mates, and a sh&^load of equipment to the moon? :p
The real question is whether we want to know or not.
@wall
07-10-2005, 04:49 PM
Can you transport you, 2 mates, and a sh&^load of equipment to the moon? :p
The real question is whether we want to know or not.
yes i must admit my storage compacity is rather flawed... :p
whiteballz
07-10-2005, 05:03 PM
lmfao @ @wall and IB4R
where in sydney do you live @wall?
saturn 5 HaXoRzZ
stratos
07-10-2005, 06:04 PM
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7927/powefull4jd.jpg
beats saturn 5 by miles !!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Don't think the Saturn 5 qualifies as a motor... motor needs to convert energy into mechanical froces, and that force must drive vehicle. Rockets are motors in a sense but... i havent heard of any races lately. sames goes for jets, i dont think the USAF wants the F-15s racing like simpleton said it has to be top fuel/ funy cars they make over 5000 horses, and cant be dynoed for obvious reason... that number just comes from the fact that they would need at least that much power to be as fast as they are
pffff......... obviously top fuel dragsters
he did say motor racing
Mustang
07-11-2005, 12:28 AM
Tractor pulling
5000-10000bhp
PsychoChimp22
07-11-2005, 12:45 AM
Tractor pulling
5000-10000bhp
Top Fuel Dragsters are nearing 8000, and seeing as they rely more on straight horsepower, not other facters like dirt pullers have (tire drads, dirt type/moistures), because (5000+10000)/2=7500. Id say dragsters have a more in general.
i said MOTOR-RACING.(any league)
What the hell is wrong with you guys?????
PsychoChimp22
07-11-2005, 12:47 AM
i said MOTOR-RACING.(any league)
What the hell is wrong with you guys?????
Its what happens when you drug illiterate people. ;)
(and give them the power of the internet :p)
Its what happens when you drug illiterate people. ;)
(and give them the power of the internet :p)
These words shall go down in history.
benjabulle
07-14-2005, 01:23 PM
Apart Dragsters, BMW turbo F1 engine was the most powerful, about 1300 bhp in 1986 for qualifications, you can see all the datas and many photos here : http://www.gurneyflap.com/bmwturbof1engine.html
he did say motor racing
Motors are also used in ships, which have also been raced. One of the more famous ship races is for the Blue Riband, and that trophy was once held by the old Queen Mary, built in 1936
She had 200,000hp (give or take) :p
KnifeEdge_2K1
07-14-2005, 06:04 PM
Tractor pulling
5000-10000bhp
tractors have really low horsepower, just high torque, whole different story there mate :P
KnifeEdge_2K1
07-14-2005, 06:05 PM
dragsters are still motor vehicles
well cap the displacement, specify a racing discipline, or fuel type, methanol racers and engines running on normal (octane) gas produce different power levels
group c n b man
10-02-2009, 03:55 AM
Back on a serious note. The real answer was the 1973 Porsche 917/30 "Can Am killer" "Turbo Panzer". In qualifying with both turbos run up to 2.7 bar boost, 1580bhp was available. In the races this was detuned to 1100bhp for reliablity and fuel consumption reasons. At full boost, 400 litres of fuel couldn't last 200 miles = less than 2mpg! Porsche did build a 7.0L 16cyl engine with up to 2000bhp! but it was never raced, probably because the existing engine was "sufficient".
Wouter Melissen
10-02-2009, 04:03 AM
Back on a serious note. The real answer was the 1973 Porsche 917/30 "Can Am killer" "Turbo Panzer". In qualifying with both turbos run up to 2.7 bar boost, 1580bhp was available. In the races this was detuned to 1100bhp for reliablity and fuel consumption reasons. At full boost, 400 litres of fuel couldn't last 200 miles = less than 2mpg! Porsche did build a 7.0L 16cyl engine with up to 2000bhp! but it was never raced, probably because the existing engine was "sufficient".
The sixteen cylinder engine was built as the naturally aspirated alternative to the turbocharged 12 cylinder engine. I am positive it did not produce anywhere near what you claim here. When they opted for the flat-12 Can-Am engine, the sixteen was retired to the museum. Two were apparently built and one is fitted in the sister chassis to the 917 PA raced by Jo Siffert in 1969.
group c n b man
10-02-2009, 08:23 AM
The sixteen cylinder engine was built as the naturally aspirated alternative to the turbocharged 12 cylinder engine. I am positive it did not produce anywhere near what you claim here. When they opted for the flat-12 Can-Am engine, the sixteen was retired to the museum. Two were apparently built and one is fitted in the sister chassis to the 917 PA raced by Jo Siffert in 1969.
Perhaps, since my information came from wikipedia, it could be wrong. However I do not refer to the original 16cyl engine which was the alternative to the turbo flat 12. This engine was a turbo flat 16. I think that photographs of this engine exist but it was planned for 1974/1975 which of course didn't take place. If a 5.4L twin turbo flat 12 has the potential for 1580bhp, then a 7.0L twin turbo flat 16 may theoretically make 2000bhp.
CapnBoost
10-02-2009, 08:46 AM
tractors have really low horsepower, just high torque, whole different story there mate :P
That's not entirely true. The pulling diesels can sometimes rev out to 5-7k rpm. The super-stock diesel class can use a 650cid engine with up to 4 staged turbos.
The unlimited class can use whatever they want.
LeonOfTheDead
10-02-2009, 09:00 AM
7.000 rpm?!
Wouter Melissen
10-02-2009, 09:09 AM
Perhaps, since my information came from wikipedia, it could be wrong. However I do not refer to the original 16cyl engine which was the alternative to the turbo flat 12. This engine was a turbo flat 16. I think that photographs of this engine exist but it was planned for 1974/1975 which of course didn't take place. If a 5.4L twin turbo flat 12 has the potential for 1580bhp, then a 7.0L twin turbo flat 16 may theoretically make 2000bhp.
Well there is no mention of this in any of my sources. What I can find is mention of a 7166cc flat-16 that was by-passed by the turbo program. With a bore and stroke of 90mm and 70.4 respectively, it produced 880 bhp 8300. The most impressive feature of this mammoth engine is that it actually has the same external dimensions as the smaller flat-12.
CapnBoost
10-02-2009, 05:10 PM
7.000 rpm?!
Yup (http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Article/1474/high_performance_diesels_black_smoke_tractor_pulli ng_market.aspx)
"These classes are utilizing engines that were designed for 466 cid and pushing them to 680 cid, and then they put 100-300 psi of boost on top of that, depending on the class."
"The top diesel classes will run between 6,000 and 7,000 rpm, which is much more than a stock diesel tractor that may be only as high as 2,200 rpm."
johnnynumfiv
10-02-2009, 07:45 PM
Have you seen the fuel pressures on those diesels? Isn't it around 20,000psi?
CapnBoost
10-02-2009, 08:27 PM
The newest common rail systems can go a little bit higher than that, yes.