Some things you already knew, some you didn't...

[stealth]

GM is back, and with avengence.

As far as all the things I've read lately, and from my uncle, who is close friends with some of the largest figures in the Auto industry, I have some HUGE surprises...

Corvette Z06 SuperSport (aka-Blue Devil)
Most of us know about this high performance machine, and we all know that at least 600 hp is expected. Well, good news for the all of you, expect at least 650. For about 95,000 American, you get 150 more ponies, and a high performance car capable of putting the Enzo to shame. Expect it by Fall 2006.

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 and SS
We all know this too. But I betcha you didn't know that the base version will be the only car for under 22,000 that comes with a V8. No joke. Oh, and expect this car to be here by Summer 2008, and with the SS version pumping at least 480hp into that engine bay.

Cadillac Cien
GM's first mid-engined production car is gonna make a gigantic splash on the aut industry. Expect Bentley Continental GT pricing and Saleen S7 performance when this all Carbon Fibre Supercar pops into showrooms in Summer 2007. Oh, and don't expect a Corvette Engine. It's all Northstar V8.

Cadillac Sixteen Sedan
Not quite as big as the Concept, but big enough to scare the living crap out of a H1 owner, this Caddy will have a V16 engine, a collaberation of two Northstar V8's, and will produce a more healthy 800hp. Expect it to be here by 2009, and for the workers at the Maybach factories to be fuming with new ideas.

Buick Roadmaster
Well... just what we need, another GM coupe and Convertible. This one will have rear wheel drive though, and a possible 420hp when it pops up stateside in 2007. Built on the same Corvette chassis and suspension setup as the XLR, this car will have a huge pricetag, and few will be made.

Hummer H4
Great, another one. Well, not exactly. This time, it won't be so much off road king as cheap off road prince built off of the Equinox chassis. And it'll be more suited to a Younger Crowd, with an obviously lesser amount of money. Expect a concept of this $25,000 pony to be shown at the 2007 Detroit Auto Show.

Now, everything I just told you may sound like a lie, coming from me. It's not. Although I will be honest and tell you that GM isn't completely sure whether they'll produce some of these, especially the Roadmaster. But I can tell you that the Corvette SS, the H4, and the Camaro are coming.

And look out, because they're coming with they're weapons ready.

[johnnynumfiv]

GM is back, and with avengence.

As far as all the things I've read lately, and from my uncle, who is close friends with some of the largest figures in the Auto industry, I have some HUGE surprises...

The scent of BULLSHIT is already strong, is this uncle the same one that has the car dealerships?



Corvette Z06 SuperSport (aka-Blue Devil)
Most of us know about this high performance machine, and we all know that at least 600 hp is expected. Well, good news for the all of you, expect at least 650. For about 95,000 American, you get 150 more ponies, and a high performance car capable of putting the Enzo to shame. Expect it by Fall 2006.

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 and SS
We all know this too. But I betcha you didn't know that the base version will be the only car for under 22,000 that comes with a V8. No joke. Oh, and expect this car to be here by Summer 2008, and with the SS version pumping at least 480hp into that engine bay.

Cadillac Cien
GM's first mid-engined production car is gonna make a gigantic splash on the aut industry. Expect Bentley Continental GT pricing and Saleen S7 performance when this all Carbon Fibre Supercar pops into showrooms in Summer 2007. Oh, and don't expect a Corvette Engine. It's all Northstar V8.

Cadillac Sixteen Sedan
Not quite as big as the Concept, but big enough to scare the living crap out of a H1 owner, this Caddy will have a V16 engine, a collaberation of two Northstar V8's, and will produce a more healthy 800hp. Expect it to be here by 2009, and for the workers at the Maybach factories to be fuming with new ideas.

Buick Roadmaster
Well... just what we need, another GM coupe and Convertible. This one will have rear wheel drive though, and a possible 420hp when it pops up stateside in 2007. Built on the same Corvette chassis and suspension setup as the XLR, this car will have a huge pricetag, and few will be made.

Hummer H4
Great, another one. Well, not exactly. This time, it won't be so much off road king as cheap off road prince built off of the Equinox chassis. And it'll be more suited to a Younger Crowd, with an obviously lesser amount of money. Expect a concept of this $25,000 pony to be shown at the 2007 Detroit Auto Show.

Now, everything I just told you may sound like a lie, coming from me. It's not. Although I will be honest and tell you that GM isn't completely sure whether they'll produce some of these, especially the Roadmaster. But I can tell you that the Corvette SS, the H4, and the Camaro are coming.

And look out, because they're coming with they're weapons ready.

Why do you need your uncle to tell you about these cars, aren't you a designer for GM?

[GT F1]

Are they going to produce the Cien and the Sixteen, or is this guy all bs?

[stealth]

Are they going to produce the Cien and the Sixteen, or is this guy all bs?

I'm positive about the Cien, but I'm not sure about the Sixteen. The cost to make a mass production V16 is ALOT.

[johnnynumfiv]

And you are lying about this stuff too.

[Rockefella]

GM is back, and with avengence.

As far as all the things I've read lately, and from my uncle, who is close friends with some of the largest figures in the Auto industry, I have some HUGE surprises...
just stop...

[GT F1]

I HOPE they make the Cien and Sixteen. Could you tell me who your uncle is, if you don't mind me asking.

[taz_rocks_miami]

I strongly suggest everyone calms down. If Stealth's info is true, great. If not, time will tell.

[johnnynumfiv]

I HOPE they make the Cien and Sixteen. Could you tell me who your uncle is, if you don't mind me asking.


He's all BS, thats all he has ever been. He can't tell you who his uncle because he most likely doesn't exist.

[stealth]

He's all BS, thats all he has ever been. He can't tell you who his uncle because he most likely doesn't exist.

Bob Fabre. Or he might have kept his dad's name of Robert Neill.

Is that good enough you ****faces?

[johnnynumfiv]

Is that good enough you ****faces?

No. Make me believe you and it would be.

[stealth]

OMG! alright. How do I make you believe me? At least tell me so I can prove it to you.

[stealth]

Oh, and stop being such a smug tosscloth. You might be wrong about this one Mystic John.

[johnnynumfiv]

LMAO, mystic john. It's just that you are a lying fool, who can't be ever trusted again pretty much. Get a voice recording of your uncle talking to the GM people and I'd believe you.

[stealth]

oh yeah man, I'll just run down to Florida, and put a mic in front of his mouth, and I'll tell him it's just to prove to someone that it's him. Do you have anything more realistic?

[shr0olvl]

I thought you were getting kicked outta your house by your mom or was that just another big lame lie to get attention ? :confused:

[stealth]

I have been. I'm staying at a friends so I can finish school.

[laxplayer98]

Bob Fabre. Or he might have kept his dad's name of Robert Neill.

Is that good enough you ****faces?
Woah holy crap My names Robert Neill
Robert Lee Neill III to be precise

[stealth]

Woah holy crap My names Robert Neill
Robert Lee Neill III to be precise :D

Are you ****ing shitting me?

That's ****ing crazy. I'm telling my uncle about that.

[Rockefella]

Same uncle that has a TVR and Enzo and what not?

[stealth]

that had a TVR and had an Enzo for a short while... yes.

[Bob]

I was gonna say go a little easier on him, we'll see if he bs'in later, but I haven't seen any of his previous posts. I'm inclined to believe him at least some of it. The Corvette is almosty definite we've all seen the pictures, we'll see if it has 650 hp like he claims. The Camaro makes alot of sense if Chevy goes with the retro look and with a V8 on the base level it could take a big bite out of the market dominated by the mustang. The Hummer is also probable considering the sales of the H2 and H3, of course they're gonna cash in on this as long as they can. The other three are less likely, but Cadillac has been more performance oriented in the last few years (CTS-V) so it not impossible for them to be making a supercar.

[taz_rocks_miami]

This is thread has degraded to the point of being pointless. I'm very inclined to locking it or even deleting it.

[Vindesh17]

if your uncle has a position as high as that, why dont you go live with him and learn something. I have an idea as to why, maybe he doesn't exist.

[clutch-monkey]

does your uncle mind you spreading this news on the internet? are you sure you weren't meant to keep it secret ;)

[CdocZ]

This is thread has degraded to the point of being pointless. I'm very inclined to locking it or even deleting it.

Please do.

[piston_burner]

GM is back, and with avengence.

As far as all the things I've read lately, and from my uncle, who is close friends with some of the largest figures in the Auto industry, I have some HUGE surprises...

[QUOTE=stealth]
Corvette Z06 SuperSport (aka-Blue Devil)
Most of us know about this high performance machine, and we all know that at least 600 hp is expected. Well, good news for the all of you, expect at least 650. For about 95,000 American, you get 150 more ponies, and a high performance car capable of putting the Enzo to shame. Expect it by Fall 2006.


Autoweek just did a story on the Blue Devil and no one, not even Bob Lutz said anything like it will beat an Enzo. That is really is over stating things. The Enzo is a production car. The Blue Devil is a work in progress. Until the Super Z06 goes into production and repsected automotive media groups can test it, statements like it will put the Enzo to shame just comes across as a fanboy statement.

For those interested in the Blue Devil, here is the URL for Autoweek
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102690






Chevrolet Camaro Z28 and SS
We all know this too. But I betcha you didn't know that the base version will be the only car for under 22,000 that comes with a V8. No joke. Oh, and expect this car to be here by Summer 2008, and with the SS version pumping at least 480hp into that engine bay.


Until GM delivers the new Camaro to dealer lots, I would not get to excited about it. GM is still bleeding badly and is facing many challenges. No doubt a new Camaro will come out, but the price and performance remains to be seen.




Cadillac Cien
GM's first mid-engined production car is gonna make a gigantic splash on the aut industry. Expect Bentley Continental GT pricing and Saleen S7 performance when this all Carbon Fibre Supercar pops into showrooms in Summer 2007. Oh, and don't expect a Corvette Engine. It's all Northstar V8.


Cien- The Cadillac Cien was introduced on the 2002 show circuit as Cadillac's way of celebrating it's 100 birthdayth (Cien is 100 in Spanish). Designed in the image of the US Air Force's F-22 Raptor Jet Fighter, the striking Cien was powered by a 750HP XV-12 Engine based on Cadillac's Northstar. Though the Cien will not make production, the XV12 powertrain is likely to see duty in an upcoming ultra premium sedan.
SOURCE: http://www.gminsidenews.com/index.php?page=showcar



Cadillac Sixteen Sedan
Not quite as big as the Concept, but big enough to scare the living crap out of a H1 owner, this Caddy will have a V16 engine, a collaberation of two Northstar V8's, and will produce a more healthy 800hp. Expect it to be here by 2009, and for the workers at the Maybach factories to be fuming with new ideas.


Sixteen- Cadillac’s Sixteen is by-far one of the most astonishing concept cars to ever to come out of GM. With a V-16 power-plant that produces 1000 HP and 1000 lb-ft. toque, the Sixteen is a car that has yet to be matched. The purpose of the Sixteen was to showcase Cadillac’s next-generation Art & Science design theme, and show that Caddy still has the power to become the “Standard of the World.” Production for a Sixteen-like car is likely, however the V-16 powertrain is not likely to see production anytime soon.

SOURE: http://www.gminsidenews.com/index.php?page=showcar




And look out, because they're coming with they're weapons ready.


I have no personal loyalty to brands. GM has some interesting products. The C6 is a great car. For every bright spot in the GM line up, there are many not so bright spots.

Right now, I am going with the idea GM will be the #2 manufacture in the world behind Toyota by 2010, if not sooner. GM is scrambling to deal with a ton of issues such as labor, production technology, green technologies, and so on. The GM "employee discount" sale is being spun as a great marketing move, but if you look at the companies that have grown and had the least issues, they are companies like Honda and Toyota. They hardly ever run rebate programs. While GM is struggling to turn a thin profit, Honda and Toyota are making a healthy profit while growing sales. Ford and GM grow sales by taking huge hits in the profits which ends up giving them short lived growth and hardly any profits.

GM is a long ways from being back at this point. Maybe by 2010 they will be a healthy company. The automotive market place is changing and GM is scrambling to keep up. I know for many Americans, including myself, we like to GM doing well, but in my opinion it is better to be realistic.

[Spastik_Roach]

Oh definitly, the SS Camaro is gunna have only 20hp less than the Z-06. Sure. Yeah, thats really believable.

[fpv_gtho]

GM is back, and with avengence.

As far as all the things I've read lately, and from my uncle, who is close friends with some of the largest figures in the Auto industry, I have some HUGE surprises...

Corvette Z06 SuperSport (aka-Blue Devil)
Most of us know about this high performance machine, and we all know that at least 600 hp is expected. Well, good news for the all of you, expect at least 650. For about 95,000 American, you get 150 more ponies, and a high performance car capable of putting the Enzo to shame. Expect it by Fall 2006.

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 and SS
We all know this too. But I betcha you didn't know that the base version will be the only car for under 22,000 that comes with a V8. No joke. Oh, and expect this car to be here by Summer 2008, and with the SS version pumping at least 480hp into that engine bay.

Cadillac Cien
GM's first mid-engined production car is gonna make a gigantic splash on the aut industry. Expect Bentley Continental GT pricing and Saleen S7 performance when this all Carbon Fibre Supercar pops into showrooms in Summer 2007. Oh, and don't expect a Corvette Engine. It's all Northstar V8.

Cadillac Sixteen Sedan
Not quite as big as the Concept, but big enough to scare the living crap out of a H1 owner, this Caddy will have a V16 engine, a collaberation of two Northstar V8's, and will produce a more healthy 800hp. Expect it to be here by 2009, and for the workers at the Maybach factories to be fuming with new ideas.

Buick Roadmaster
Well... just what we need, another GM coupe and Convertible. This one will have rear wheel drive though, and a possible 420hp when it pops up stateside in 2007. Built on the same Corvette chassis and suspension setup as the XLR, this car will have a huge pricetag, and few will be made.

Hummer H4
Great, another one. Well, not exactly. This time, it won't be so much off road king as cheap off road prince built off of the Equinox chassis. And it'll be more suited to a Younger Crowd, with an obviously lesser amount of money. Expect a concept of this $25,000 pony to be shown at the 2007 Detroit Auto Show.

Now, everything I just told you may sound like a lie, coming from me. It's not. Although I will be honest and tell you that GM isn't completely sure whether they'll produce some of these, especially the Roadmaster. But I can tell you that the Corvette SS, the H4, and the Camaro are coming.

And look out, because they're coming with they're weapons ready.


The only one of these i'd expect is the Hummer, as thats precisely the product GM knows it can sell, and sell well.

Is that a serious comment about the Enzo? No doubt the Z06 SS will be fast in a straight line, but i think the Enzo will have its number on anything else.

The Camaro, i dont know what to think about it. That and the mentality of many Americans behind it. It seems no one will be happy unless they can get a 350hp V8 for under $US25K.

[Matra et Alpine]

This is thread has degraded to the point of being pointless. I'm very inclined to locking it or even deleting it.
nah, we're getting some serious 'owning' posts going on.

respect to Kev for his post.

[drakkie]

does your uncle mind you spreading this news on the internet? are you sure you weren't meant to keep it secret ;)

same as i were told by my grandpa,ho is friends now with the USA Saab importer.i know things, that you guys don't know.you will find out, in time, what i know now:D. strange that it is not a secret with a even bigger company !!

[Coventrysucks]

I have been. I'm staying at a friends so I can finish school.

But the part about you being a designer, or apprentice designer at GM?

That's all still lies right?

[CSL]

im bangin Ashlee Simpson and Natalie Portman, just thought you would all like to know

[baddabang]

Man I come from a long line of GM employees and I havent heard anything of the sort. Last I heard the camaro idea was trashed, and that cadillac was using interior ideas from the sixteen in the new models.

[Juggs]

same as i were told by my grandpa,ho is friends now with the USA Saab importer!

i feel sorry for your grampas friend

[Bob]

im bangin Ashlee Simpson and Natalie Portman, just thought you would all like to know
At the same time :eek:?

[KELSA]

im bangin Ashlee Simpson and Natalie Portman, just thought you would all like to know

bull$hit, they were with me the entire last month..... too much bs here!

[Matt]

Cadillac Cien
GM's first mid-engined production car is gonna make a gigantic splash on the aut industry. Expect Bentley Continental GT pricing and Saleen S7 performance when this all Carbon Fibre Supercar pops into showrooms in Summer 2007. Oh, and don't expect a Corvette Engine. It's all Northstar V8.



Pontiac Fiero anyone? Mid-engined? From the 80's? Your uncle talks out of his ass as far as I can tell.

[Esperante]

But the part about you being a designer, or apprentice designer at GM?

That's all still lies right?
He declared himslef kicked out of the house, and later explained an elaborate plan to flee to Detroit to become an auto designer. :rolleyes:

[QBridge]

Cadillac Cien
GM's first mid-engined production car is gonna make a gigantic splash on the aut industry. Expect Bentley Continental GT pricing and Saleen S7 performance when this all Carbon Fibre Supercar pops into showrooms in Summer 2007. Oh, and don't expect a Corvette Engine. It's all Northstar V8.
Is that the car from The Island the movie?