View Full Version : Does Renault make engines for Nissan?
taz_rocks_miami
08-15-2005, 04:20 PM
I was talking to a friend this morning and he told me that the enigine in the Nissan Platina is made by Renault:
http://www.terra.com.mx/galeria_de_fotos/images/77/153181.jpg
I don't think it's true. Can anyone confirm if Renault makes any engine for this or any other Nissan?
scottie300z
08-15-2005, 04:21 PM
actually renault owns nissan. And i believe they designed the vq engine themselves.
taz_rocks_miami
08-15-2005, 04:23 PM
actually renault owns nissan. And i believe they designed the vq engine themselves.
They own Nissan?? Since when??
scottie300z
08-15-2005, 04:24 PM
Not too long ago. a few years ago, i dont remember the exact year.
taz_rocks_miami
08-15-2005, 04:27 PM
Not too long ago. a few years ago, i dont remember the exact year.
Damn, that's news to me. I didn't know Renault was big or rich enough to buy a company like Nissan.
Matra et Alpine
08-15-2005, 04:30 PM
1999, it's an "alliance" :D
of course an "alliance" where Ghosn was put in charge of Nissan by Renault to turn them around and who is now in charge at Renault :)
scottie300z
08-15-2005, 04:32 PM
i remember reading somewhere that renault actually owns a majority share in nissan now. They bought some shares but not a majority in 99 when nissan was having trouble and started the alliance and helped turn them around by cutting the amount of models and engines to save money. thats why so many nissans use the vq now and why it was designed in the first place, to be used by many different vehicles. And then they decided to buy more, and now they own nissan b/c the bought a majority amount of stock. but that is just from what i remember, i may be wrong.
Niko_Fx
08-15-2005, 04:38 PM
Not sure how accurate this pic is, but it's better than nothing ;)
Matra et Alpine
08-15-2005, 04:46 PM
For details it's all at http://www.renault.com/gb/groupe/alliances_p1.htm
http://www.renault.com/docs/atlas_gb/2002/alliance_renault_nissan_gb.pdf for it in pictures :)
and ALL the gritty is at http://www.renault.com/docs/groupe_gb/Alliance_Booklet_March_2005_GB.pdf
GT F1
08-15-2005, 04:54 PM
Not sure how accurate this pic is, but it's better than nothing ;)
Nice chart. Where's Acura? :confused:
Niko_Fx
08-15-2005, 05:03 PM
Nice chart. Where's Acura? :confused:
Missing :(
NuclearCrap
08-15-2005, 05:04 PM
Nice chart. Where's Acura? :confused:
Honda is Acura, same reason they didn't include Infiniti, but no idea why they put Lexus in. Honda pwns because they don't even need alliances to keep them going. And what does Samsung have to do with cars?
GT F1
08-15-2005, 05:05 PM
Honda is Acura, same reason they didn't include Infiniti or Lexus. Honda pwns because they don't even need alliances to keep them going. And what does Samsung have to do with cars?
Lexus is on there.
Niko_Fx
08-15-2005, 05:05 PM
Honda is Acura, same reason they didn't include Infiniti or Lexus. Honda pwns because they don't even need alliances to keep them going. And what does Samsung have to do with cars?
Lexus is there. Acura was simply forgotten by whoever did the chart.
NuclearCrap
08-15-2005, 05:07 PM
Lexus is there. Acura was simply forgotten by whoever did the chart.
And Infiniti.
taz_rocks_miami
08-15-2005, 05:30 PM
Thanks for the info guys. I'm still not sure though, does Renault supply the engine for the Platina or do they just provide the funds for Nissan's R and R?
deffenbaugh03
08-15-2005, 05:33 PM
While were on the subject of that chart...
That chart is at least a year old i remember seeing it awhile ago, and MG Rover are still on there so it can't be too new. What is the company under Samsung and also i thought fiat owned 100% of ferrari is it really only 56%?
In the last episode of Top Gear which was august 15th I think when jeremy was talking about the nissan 350z roadster i'm pretty sure he made a comment about how renault makes nissan's engines now.
d-quik
08-15-2005, 06:33 PM
I had always thought that it was Nissan that made the engines for Renault...
scottie300z
08-15-2005, 07:11 PM
This may confuse things more, but i heard that lotus helps with the gtr's suspension. not sure if its just w/ the new one or past ones as well. but is that true?
taz_rocks_miami
08-15-2005, 07:16 PM
I had always thought that it was Nissan that made the engines for Renault...
I'm officialy confused now...Matra, where are you????!!!!
dimlight
08-15-2005, 07:31 PM
WELL.. The engines used for the Murano .. Infinity fx35 and the 350z are those of the Renault Velsatis 3.5 liter.
Vindesh17
08-15-2005, 07:51 PM
its still a really nice chart.
spi-ti-tout
08-15-2005, 07:57 PM
It sucks a bit really. I mean yeah, Ghosn way back in '96 was the only reason that Nissan survives today but just where has it's Japanese technology gone? No wonder people were comparing the 350z to a European Counter more thann any others - I couldn't figure it out until I heard about this just now. Renault has kept their face down for quite a number of years now - so I SUPPOSE taking interest in Nissan would make it a bit more lively, logically from their view. From a biased car fan's (hey, who isn't?) POV it's just another hungry industry dominating that, if could be avoided, would be MUCH better.
Zytek_Fan
08-15-2005, 08:21 PM
Samsung is on there because they supply the Renault electronics.
pimento
08-15-2005, 10:32 PM
The chart also fails to mention that Proton own Lotus now, not sure of a percentage, but they certainly control Lotus. Also, GM and FIAT I believe have pulled out of each other, Maserati is moved to the Alfa Romeo arm of FIAT, and there's a plethora of commercial ranges that aren't included there. Hino, Iveco, Scania, that sorta thing. The engine in question came from Renault, but Nissan's engineers probably played with it to get it to the various states of tune that it's in. Nissan used to be known as a company of engineers, so their cars were great, yet uninspiring. Renault came in to give them some pizazz.
Spastik_Roach
08-15-2005, 11:35 PM
Honda is Acura, same reason they didn't include Infiniti, but no idea why they put Lexus in. Honda pwns because they don't even need alliances to keep them going. And what does Samsung have to do with cars?
Samsung badge engineers old Generation Nissan sedans and sells them in Japan.
2ndclasscitizen
08-16-2005, 03:15 AM
Acuras are hondas with a new badge. Lexus' are not
henk4
08-16-2005, 06:50 AM
Renault makes all the diesel engines fitted in Nissan's lesser models.
henk4
08-16-2005, 06:51 AM
Acuras are hondas with a new badge. Lexus' are not
Lexus are toyotas with a new badge. The big one is called Celsior in Japan, the GS300 is also sold as a Toyota and the Landcruiser can also be had as Lexus
pimento
08-16-2005, 09:48 AM
They're gonna start using the Lexus badge in Japan, or so I heard.
Acura/subarufan
08-16-2005, 10:59 AM
They're gonna start using the Lexus badge in Japan, or so I heard.
yeah i heard that too
so does renault make the vq35 motor for nissan?? i know its made in the states by fa yankys but its an original concept by renault?
RacingManiac
07-23-2010, 11:48 AM
so does renault make the vq35 motor for nissan?? i know its made in the states by fa yankys but its an original concept by renault?
VQs are Nissan motor....they've been around since late 90s and the motors were made in Japan...Renault started to use VQ in some of their car in the last few years...
This is a super Necro post...
cmcpokey
07-23-2010, 01:14 PM
the only VQs made in the states are the ones used in US built cars. most are still made in japan. and i think renault only uses the VQ in the platform mate cars like the Laguna.
DesmoRob
07-25-2010, 10:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjCu0ZBW25w
why does Clarkson state that the engine is french at 3:05 into the video? I know he's clarkson, and an idiot, but to give false information?
I've also been trying to find another 350Z test in which Hammond pretty much states the same but it must have been removed.
Ferrer
07-25-2010, 10:25 AM
Never ever take any fact Clarkson says for granted.
The point in the reviews he does is to be find somehwere else.
willysjeep
07-25-2010, 11:18 AM
I have seen the casting on the block on the 3.0 Nissan engine[pre 3.5]. They were used here in South Africa in the Nissan pickups and the Nissan VQ car. Renault casting on the right hand side under the exhaust manifold. The local Nissan dealer here also think these engines are made by Renault
pimento
07-25-2010, 04:40 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the later VQs were a Nissan engineered evolution of the French National 3.0V6.
john14
07-26-2010, 05:58 AM
How can Jeremy Clarkson get away with giving false information on the most watched television show of all time? Even I know the 350Z doesn't have a French engine.
cmcpokey
07-26-2010, 08:19 AM
yeah, i just perused the wiki pages, and the renaults that use the VQ were assembled in france, but fitted engines built in japan. and the VQs used in US built cars are made in tennessee.
RacingManiac
07-27-2010, 11:01 AM
Tooling and casting can be made anywhere, and I am sure its more economical to have the same casting mold at different foundries instead of shipping assembled motor everywhere....Cars like Altima, Maxima, Pathfinder...etc probably have their American made engine. Infiniti which most are still imported will have the Japanese ones. The European made cars be it as Renault or Nissan probably has ones made in Europe....