Turkey GP

[Dino Scuderia]

It has rained and 70% chance of rain for race day. All the rubber that was laid down yesterday has been washed away...there's going to be more spins for sure.

FP3:

P. No Driver Team - Engine Tyres Times Ave/Gaps
1. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M 1'26"857 221.329 Km/h
2. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1'27"031 + 0'00"174
3. 5 ALONSO Renault M 1'27"119 + 0'00"262
4. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'27"134 + 0'00"277
5. 4 SATO BAR Honda M 1'27"159 + 0'00"302
6. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M 1'27"471 + 0'00"614
7. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M 1'27"633 + 0'00"776
8. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M 1'27"921 + 0'01"064
9. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M 1'27"953 + 0'01"096
10. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M 1'28"018 + 0'01"161
11. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M 1'28"049 + 0'01"192
12. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M 1'28"063 + 0'01"206
13. 16 TRULLI Toyota M 1'28"468 + 0'01"611
14. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'28"487 + 0'01"630
15. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 1'28"740 + 0'01"883
16. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'28"854 + 0'01"997
17. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 1'30"216 + 0'03"359
18. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 1'30"837 + 0'03"980
19. 20 DOORNBOS Minardi Cosworth B 1'30"851 + 0'03"994

FP4

P. No Driver Team - Engine Tyres Times Ave/Gaps
1. 9 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'26"120 223.223 Km/h
2. 3 BUTTON BAR Honda M 1'26"599 + 0'00"479
3. 5 ALONSO Renault M 1'26"627 + 0'00"507
4. 10 MONTOYA McLaren Mercedes M 1'26"748 + 0'00"628
5. 6 FISICHELLA Renault M 1'27"240 + 0'01"120
6. 4 SATO BAR Honda M 1'27"308 + 0'01"188
7. 7 WEBBER Williams BMW M 1'27"335 + 0'01"215
8. 17 R.SCHUMACHER Toyota M 1'27"556 + 0'01"436
9. 14 COULTHARD RedBull Cosworth M 1'27"796 + 0'01"676
10. 12 MASSA Sauber Petronas M 1'27"829 + 0'01"709
11. 15 KLIEN RedBull Cosworth M 1'27"919 + 0'01"799
12. 16 TRULLI Toyota M 1'27"921 + 0'01"801
13. 8 HEIDFELD Williams BMW M 1'27"951 + 0'01"831
14. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'28"155 + 0'02"035
15. 11 VILLENEUVE Sauber Petronas M 1'28"534 + 0'02"414
16. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'28"615 + 0'02"495
17. 18 MONTEIRO Jordan Toyota B 1'28"830 + 0'02"710
18. 20 DOORNBOS Minardi Cosworth B 1'30"155 + 0'04"035
19. 21 ALBERS Minardi Cosworth B 1'30"999 + 0'04"879

[fpv_gtho]

This should be interesting to say the least, being a new track and a physically demanding one at that it was already going to sort the good from the bad. Might help some of Bridgestones tyre woes if theyre all on wets, or god forbid they need the monsoon spec tyres

[Dino Scuderia]

Team orders by Renault already for strategy reasons. Looks like all is well for McLaren if the reliability is there.

[Dino Scuderia]

Michelins in trouble! Both Williams right rear change.

[Dino Scuderia]

MS never could race wheel to wheel, he totally turned in on Webber.

[emperor]

Michelins in trouble! Both Williams right rear change.

4 tyres! God damn it. And now we return to discusion about USA GP - my question is this: does the Michelin support the tyres only or the wheels along with rims?
Because all of these 4 tyres din't blow, they just fell of the rims. Maybe it was the rim fault in USA GP as it is today?
Anyhow, Williams or Michelin fault, it is rather a joke, I'm just glad that Webber and Heidfeld weren't hurt in these dangerous situations.

[Dino Scuderia]

They say the tyre is rubbing part of the wing on Williams car, not a Michelin problem.

[emperor]

both cars? jesus, they sure screwed up. Someone at Williams will lose his very well paid job :D

[Dino Scuderia]

Just one more reason why I don't think Williams are championship material anymore.

[Matra et Alpine]

They say the tyre is rubbing part of the wing on Williams car, not a Michelin problem.
WHO says ?
Sam was jsut interviewed and no mention of that

[Mustang]

haha schuey's best quote of the race

"Marc (webber) was coming up behind me and banged me from the rear"

[emperor]

The true reason behind Williams failure: :D :D :D

[Dino Scuderia]

WHO says ?
Sam was jsut interviewed and no mention of that

It was a report made to Steve Matchett during the race from one of his pit lane snoopers.

[Matra et Alpine]

It was a report made to Steve Matchett during the race from one of his pit lane snoopers.
ah, ok, they probably saw the marks on the wing end plates from AFTER the tyre came off. The first one the outer bead had clearly released. THAT would make the tyre rub the end plate. understood :)

( one of the things I really liek abotu MotoGP is Randy Mamola does the pit-lane work and at least it's someone who knows abotu the engineering and the riding. ITV has some numpties some times :( )

[R34GTR]

Alonso Lucky again same old boring Alonso renault are pathetic only thing they wan't to do is defend their lead instead of winning races, They know they can't keep up with the Mclarens, Kimi world champion if not this year certainly next year

[Rockefella]

Alonso Lucky again same old boring Alonso renault are pathetic only thing they wan't to do is defend their lead instead of winning races, They know they can't keep up with the Mclarens, Kimi world champion if not this year certainly next year
What do you expect? I would do the same thing.

[Pando]

I think it was a quite interesting race to watch, just one thing bothered me though:

[pdr]

or maybe...

[meenkeene518]

i dunno whats to blame ferrari or bridgstone, but ferrari is just off the pace this year. as much as i hate to say it i think schumacher needs to hang it up before he gets embarassed next year they way things are going :(

[Jack_Bauer]

i dunno whats to blame ferrari or bridgstone, but ferrari is just off the pace this year. as much as i hate to say it i think schumacher needs to hang it up before he gets embarassed next year they way things are going :(

Well, Ferrari said over a month ago that they'd stopped doing any serious development and testing work on the current car, so it was always gonna be the case that they'd gradually drop further and further off the pace. However, it does mean that they've been concerntrating nearly all their efforts on NEXT year's car, so it means they might actually have a new car ready for the start of the season for once. It would be foolish to rule out Ferrari and Schumi coming back to form next year, I think they'll definitely be serious contenders. :)

[fpv_gtho]

or maybe...

that was quite a funny move, despite how it ended