pro choice or pro life?

[kennyknoxville]

im pro life. i was having this conversation with my gf and we came to the conclusion that abortion is murder. i personally believe conception and the creation of a soul takes place during the act of love. there are too many things you can do to prevent conception. just my opinion. what do you guys think.

[taz_rocks_miami]

Pro life, I don't why the child, fetus or what ever you might call it, should be denied the right to live because the "adults" couldn't keep their pants on.

EDIT: The only time I would agree with abortion is when the mother's life is in danger.

[Jack_Bauer]

There are so many grey and murky areas with this one though. What if the pregnancy occured as the result of a rape? What if the mother is very young (12/13)?

I can't abide the thought of people who have abortions essentially as 'lifestyle choices'. People who are fully grown adults and can legitimately support a child but who simply don't fancy the burden of parenting, or it doesn't suit their plan for their life. But there are too many 'What if...'s' for me to say categorically I'm pro-life.

[Rockefella]

Generally, pro-choice, but only in extreme circumstances.

[taz_rocks_miami]

Generally, pro-choice, but only in extreme circumstances.

I don't get it, are generaly pro-choice or just in extreme circumstances?

[Rockefella]

I don't get it, are generaly pro-choice or just in extreme circumstances?
Ah, I kind of mistyped my opinion. I'm generally pro-life, but pro-choice in situations that are extreme.

[Egg Nog]

I don't really understand how someone can be in the middle on this issue. The pro-life agrument is in favour of the future of the baby, and that it should have a right to live. If this is what you believe, shouldn't this argument stand regardless of predicament? I know it sounds awful, but if a woman get pregnant after being raped how does that make it any more justifiable to kill the potential human within her? If abortion is murder, aren't you still a murderer if the baby was the result of a rape?


Anyway, I'm definitely pro-choice.

[pimento]

Pro-choice. It's a lose-lose situation for a lot of people, abort and be hated for it, or have the child and not be able to take care of it and be hated for it. I know that sounds heartless to you lifers, but that's how I feel on it. Contraception can fail and mistakes can be made, but people shouldn't be hated on for that.

[crisis]

I am anti government meddling in it.
I am anti church meddling in it.
I am anti pious moralising about it.

I am not an advocate of using abortion as contraception or family planning. I am in favour when it prevents an infant entering an environment of abuse or neglect. A recent case of two parents (teenagers) were charged with murder of an 8 month old which was beaten and finally died of its injuries. This is intolerable to me. I would also advocate steralisation of the two parents in this instance.

[Rockefella]

I don't really understand how someone can be in the middle on this issue.
My middle ground is just in the sense of keeping people from aborting at random. I think abortions should be done only under proper circumstances, and not through widespread use.

[Matra et Alpine]

pro-life after the egg has divided specialised cells.

pro-choice before that for all.

'grey' area to be on its merits for choice after that.
Especially when you take into account 'natural choice' for the last few hundred thousand years.
Modern medicine can keep alive and modern society can maintain a person who would have died in their first few days of birth millenia ago.
So for the religious -- 'Gods will' let them die then, why cannot we 'let them' die now but with less pain ?

[Matt]

Pro-life for myself, but I don't feel like I should impose my opinions on anyone else, so pro-choice for the laws of the land.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

I'm Pro-Choice.

I think it's better for a foetus to be aborted rather than life an unhappy, unloved life at the hands of people who didn't want it anyway. And Adoption is always a good idea, but at the same time the child is still going to have issues regarding their lineage.

it's just better, IMO, if the parents, but most importantly the child, aren't made to suffer. After all, they have done some pretty heavy research showing Foetus's don't feel pain until 29 weeks, well past the Usual Abortion limit of 3 months or so.

[Matra et Alpine]

Just read that the Roslin Institute ( the Scottish research lab that first cloned Dolly the sheep ) has produced a 'parthenote'. A human embryonic cell cluster which has progressed WITHOUT the introduction of sperm or any male cell components.

Some insects breed by parthogenesis - where the cell just divides without the need for fertilisation.

This is going to be one for the religious to struggle with as now the life isn't from the methods described in the Bible, so it's moreal and legal position is uncertain.

The 'hope' (?) is that it will enable stem-cell research and donation without the current legal objections primarily objected to by ultr-right-Christians. Going to be interesting times in the courts over this one.

No doubt it will open up another completely different angle for pro-life/pro-choice advocates to battle over.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

I guess this new development really does put into focus the big question; what qualifies as life?

More importantly for most people, What classifies a human life?

[R34GTR]

pro life simple as that,