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Dino Scuderia
09-21-2005, 08:20 AM
Yummy!

henk4
09-21-2005, 08:21 AM
they might want to produce a "sold" sign in carbonfiber too, this one looks so cheapo :)

rev440
09-21-2005, 08:22 AM
Ive seen it almost a month ago... on the ferrarichat website I dont like the bare carbon fibre

Dino Scuderia
09-21-2005, 08:22 AM
CF Zonda #2

Rockefella
09-21-2005, 08:24 AM
I like it a lot, but the rims, have to go.

Dino Scuderia
09-21-2005, 08:25 AM
CF Zonda #3

Dino Scuderia
09-21-2005, 08:26 AM
CF Zonda #4

carreragt10
09-21-2005, 08:32 AM
Nice Pics ;)

man 430gt
09-21-2005, 08:33 AM
The Zonda at this years gumball was all carbon fiber aswell...

Jack_Bauer
09-21-2005, 08:45 AM
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=130695

:eek::eek::eek:

Pagani Zonda F, Mercedes CLK-GTR and McLaren F1 all lined up together!!! Anyone know where this is? I'm guessing by the fact the Zonda is rhd that it's in either the UK or Japan. :confused:

I agree with Rocke that the wheels are perhaps a little too garish and 'blinging', but I suppose if you're the shy and retiring type then a Pagani Zonda probably isn't the car for you! :p It's all about the ultimate in supercar excess.

I have to say I love this car more and more each time I see it. Even the irksome wooden steering wheel is starting to grow on me. :)

white devil
09-21-2005, 09:00 AM
The Beuty of Carbon fiber :cool:

kennyknoxville
09-21-2005, 09:15 AM
holy crap the whole cars carbon fiber? thats insanity

Jack_Bauer
09-21-2005, 09:21 AM
holy crap the whole cars carbon fiber? thats insanity

The whole car has ALWAYS been carbon fibre. Just for this particular car they decided not to paint the carbon fibre body panels. :)

kennyknoxville
09-21-2005, 09:26 AM
The whole car has ALWAYS been carbon fibre. Just for this particular car they decided not to paint the carbon fibre body panels. :)
ah. thanks for that. i never really liked the zonda till now.
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=130696&stc=1

McReis
09-21-2005, 09:31 AM
they might want to produce a "sold" sign in carbonfiber too, this one looks so cheapo :)


Good idea. Along with carbon fibre propriety register papers, carpets, tyres, key, sunglasses and driving shoes...
Very fashionable. Very silly.

Cotterik
09-21-2005, 10:08 AM
I bet i could lift that with my little finger.

Such a beautiful machine :)

kennyknoxville
09-21-2005, 10:10 AM
all performance cars should be made of carbon fiberhttp://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=130696&stc=1

Vaigra
09-21-2005, 10:30 AM
all performance cars should be made of carbon fiberhttp://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=130696&stc=1
most usually are.

Vaigra
09-21-2005, 10:31 AM
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=130695

:eek::eek::eek:

Pagani Zonda F, Mercedes CLK-GTR and McLaren F1 all lined up together!!! Anyone know where this is? I'm guessing by the fact the Zonda is rhd that it's in either the UK or Japan. :confused:


I'd say there's more chance of it being in UAE or Middle East somewhere. If it was in the UK, I'm sure one of us would have tracked it down by now ;)

Gal_TT
09-21-2005, 10:33 AM
all performance cars should be made of carbon fiber

Yes, but Pagani uses it as art! They are the carbon fibre masters. This car looks absolutely amazing, but I still like the 2 tone Zonda F more.

Dino Scuderia
09-21-2005, 10:36 AM
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=130695

:eek::eek::eek:

Pagani Zonda F, Mercedes CLK-GTR and McLaren F1 all lined up together!!! Anyone know where this is? I'm guessing by the fact the Zonda is rhd that it's in either the UK or Japan. :confused:

I agree with Rocke that the wheels are perhaps a little too garish and 'blinging', but I suppose if you're the shy and retiring type then a Pagani Zonda probably isn't the car for you! :p It's all about the ultimate in supercar excess.

I have to say I love this car more and more each time I see it. Even the irksome wooden steering wheel is starting to grow on me. :)

They were at a Ferrari dealer in Singapore.

Vaigra
09-21-2005, 10:40 AM
They were at a Ferrari dealer in Singapore.
guess I was wrong about the Middle East :o
Well, I DID say it wasn't UK ;)

Coventrysucks
09-21-2005, 11:12 AM
Yes, but Pagani uses it as art!

You've not seen an F1 car recently then?

I don't think it works over the whole car.

Maybe have the car painted above or below the belt line.

:Exige:
09-21-2005, 11:36 AM
Maybe have the car painted above or below the belt line. I really hated the Zonda F they let the magazines drive ... the 2 tone reminds me of ricers who fail to paint the bottom half of their car. Full exposed Carbon Fibre for me please :)

Rockefella
09-21-2005, 11:37 AM
I like Carbon Fibre in the sense of the Honda/Acura NSX-R, it shows, but it's not excessive.

Vaigra
09-21-2005, 11:48 AM
I like Carbon Fibre in the sense of the Honda/Acura NSX-R, it shows, but it's not excessive.
same on the EVO FQ's :)

rev440
09-21-2005, 12:05 PM
That CLK GTR is the only right hand drive car in the world.

baddabang
09-21-2005, 12:08 PM
That CLK GTR is the only right hand drive car in the world.


Think before you post. It helps. :rolleyes:

"Clevor" Angel
09-21-2005, 12:35 PM
I love the bare carbon-fibre look. It also helps with weight to, they probably saved themselves 30 or so pounds. (13.6kg)

6'bore
09-21-2005, 01:21 PM
That CLK GTR is the only right hand drive car in the world.

In CLK GTR's or in 'ANY' car?


Btw, that zonda is sooooooo awesome...

They should all be like that.

:Exige:
09-21-2005, 01:55 PM
Is it me or does Orange make the Zonda suddenly look kitcar-ish? This CF makes it look unique without being offending.

carsnut
09-21-2005, 02:41 PM
nice....................

rev440
09-21-2005, 04:00 PM
In CLK GTR's or in 'ANY' car?


Btw, that zonda is sooooooo awesome...

They should all be like that.


That clk gtr is the only right hand clk gtr in existance. Atleast thats what i read.

Vindesh17
09-21-2005, 04:17 PM
I thought this might be the place to ask, has anyone(meaning car companies) ever thought of making rims out of carbon fibre?

Dino Scuderia
09-21-2005, 04:20 PM
I thought this might be the place to ask, has anyone(meaning car companies) ever thought of making rims out of carbon fibre?

If it were advantageous to do.... it would already be in use widely. The only place I've seen carbon rims used is on bicycles.

Vindesh17
09-21-2005, 04:22 PM
I was thinking just for cosmetic reasons though.

Jack_Bauer
09-21-2005, 04:30 PM
I was thinking just for cosmetic reasons though.

btw isn't this a Zonda F or do all new zondas have that exact front light?

Yes it's an F, hence the bloody great "F" on the back! ;)

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=130685

Don't think carbon fibre would be particularly suitable for a car's wheels. Yes, it is VERY strong, but also brittle once pushed too hard. You can imagine in a car with the monumental torque of a Zonda the huge forces being applied to the spokes and wheel rim under hard acceleration. Wouldn't really want my rear wheels to shatter as I pressed the loud pedal! :eek:

Prius
09-21-2005, 05:30 PM
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=130695

:eek::eek::eek:

Pagani Zonda F, Mercedes CLK-GTR and McLaren F1 all lined up together!!! Anyone know where this is? I'm guessing by the fact the Zonda is rhd that it's in either the UK or Japan. :confused:

I agree with Rocke that the wheels are perhaps a little too garish and 'blinging', but I suppose if you're the shy and retiring type then a Pagani Zonda probably isn't the car for you! :p It's all about the ultimate in supercar excess.

I have to say I love this car more and more each time I see it. Even the irksome wooden steering wheel is starting to grow on me. :)

did you notice that silver car next to it?

OHHH YEAAAAAA!

Vindesh17
09-21-2005, 05:36 PM
Who else thinks the Zonda LOOKS better than the CLK GTR?

and I emphasize the word looks for a reason.

Coventrysucks
09-21-2005, 05:48 PM
Zonda LOOKS better than the CLK GTR?

Nope.

my porsche
09-21-2005, 05:53 PM
who thinks the zonda IS better than the clk? at least it wont flip over and fly into a forest when your going

Coventrysucks
09-21-2005, 05:57 PM
Please, tell me; when ever did a Mercedes Benz AMG CLK GTR ever "flip over and fly into a forest"?

:rolleyes:

ZeTurbo
09-21-2005, 06:03 PM
Please, tell me; when ever did a Mercedes Benz AMG CLK GTR ever "flip over and fly into a forest"?

:rolleyes:
happens all the time.

Jack_Bauer
09-21-2005, 06:07 PM
Please, tell me; when ever did a Mercedes Benz AMG CLK GTR ever "flip over and fly into a forest"?

:rolleyes:

Oh come on, you know what he meant! :p

CLR, CLK-GTR, it's a pretty close match! They look very similar, it'd be very easy to mistake one for t'other to the untrained eye. And I'm sure all Le Mans cars look pretty similar after flying into trees at 180mph! :eek:

;)

(For the record, I prefer the Zonda as it isn't bound by the constraints of homologation. Designing a race car then sticking CLK head/tail lights to it to fit the rules just doesn't sit right with me. :) )

Coventrysucks
09-21-2005, 06:11 PM
The Mercedes CLR and CLK GTR are completely different cars.

Different chassis, engine, gearbox, bodywork...

And FWIW other cars that "flipped up and flew into a forest" include the Porsche 911 GT1 Evo.

So there.

092326001
09-21-2005, 06:12 PM
It looks great in bare carbon fiber but the red inteerior doesn't really fit it

Cadillac Imaj
09-21-2005, 06:34 PM
the best of carbon fibre ALWAYS comes from Pagani and its Zonda.
the car is starting to grow on me!

my porsche
09-21-2005, 06:40 PM
ooo ouch, im deeply hurt cov, just cuz you have some sort of soft spot for the clk deosnt mean im offended because a porsche flew off the track

and jack, i saw the video and it looked a whole lot slower than 180... :confused: couldnt have been optical tricks

Jack_Bauer
09-21-2005, 06:52 PM
ooo ouch, im deeply hurt cov, just cuz you have some sort of soft spot for the clk deosnt mean im offended because a porsche flew off the track

and jack, i saw the video and it looked a whole lot slower than 180... :confused: couldnt have been optical tricks

Well it was on the Mulsanne straight that Peter Dumbreck (and also Mark Webber) went into orbit. Top speed there is in excess of 200mph, so I imagine he must've been going in the high 100s. I'm guessing you may have seen a slo-mo of it, because to get to that kind of height in the air would take a hell of a lot of speed (plus a big dollop bad luck/engineering :eek: ), that's why I guessed at 180. :)

2ndclasscitizen
09-21-2005, 11:35 PM
i saw a video of the mercs flipping and one nearly landed back on its wheels, which would have been the coolest thing ever in racing

my porsche
09-22-2005, 04:09 PM
i see, maybe it was slo-mo and then when he flew up it went regular speed, or maybe just all slow mo, im confused :p

Coventrysucks
09-22-2005, 04:31 PM
ooo ouch, im deeply hurt cov, just cuz you have some sort of soft spot for the clk deosnt mean im offended because a porsche flew off the track

Oh; grow a sense of humour you morose Septic.

my porsche
09-22-2005, 04:33 PM
what a strange man!

Coventrysucks
09-22-2005, 04:52 PM
Like anyone ever used "So there" as a serious argument. :rolleyes:

matek
09-22-2005, 04:52 PM
for one this is strange argument.

and for two i thought that u were packing up and going on the run from the hurricane.

for three coventry how did the boat job go?

Coventrysucks
09-22-2005, 05:19 PM
for three coventry how did the boat job go?

Better than I ever expected.

It has definately focussed my, untill now slightly vague, aims in life.

And it is a strange argument.

I've been rather restless over the last few days, and am probably being a bit too terse.

The CLK GTR and CLR are like Dick Cheney and Geroge W Bush, similar concept but different mechanicals.

my porsche
09-22-2005, 05:28 PM
ahh, so basically clr is the race version?

Coventrysucks
09-22-2005, 05:39 PM
No, it was a completely different car.

The CLK GTR was first raced in 1997 with a 6.0-litre V12, and there were a limited number of road cars built for homologation purposes.

Then for 1998 the FIA, being high on crack or something, decided that homologation was stupid and let everyone loose.

So Mercedes produced an updated CLK GTR, called the CLK LM, which used a V8, and revised bodywork with a much smaller frontal area. The car went on to win 10/10 FIA GT races that year. It lost out to the Porsche 911 GT1 at Le Mans though.

Then for 1999, the CLK LM was more or less totally redesigned to form the CLR. Still V8, and with an even more "aerodynamic" shape.

The problems with take-offs over high-speed crests happened a few times, but because it happened three times to Mercedes at Le Mans very publically, everyone forgets the fact that it was a problem encountered by other teams.

my porsche
09-22-2005, 05:40 PM
piccies?

check you inbox too btw

Coventrysucks
09-22-2005, 05:59 PM
GTR (homologation version) http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=car.php&carnum=365

LM
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=car.php&carnum=1082

CLR
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/benzCLR.html

heartotexas012
10-24-2008, 02:11 PM
now i see what jason ellis loves about carbon fiber.
sooo sexy. :p