Shock Horror H2 here

[SlickHolden]

Drving with my brother this big black thing came out of nowhere :eek:
It was Black and was a H2 full RHD and all.
My brother and i came up next to it and laughed our heads off it's not the thing you expect to see here every day. And to top it off when we got back to his home his mate came over and when we told him what a laugh what we just seen you wont belive it, It was his mate's new car he just got it.
To be honest when you hear the story's about them you think they are huge, But in the flesh they are not that huge but they are big and ugly the windows are so small for a car that is that high off the ground wheels are huge but really they are a acquired taste:D

[P4g4nite]

http://www.forumspile.com/Go-Away-Nuclear_finger.jpg

The H2 gets my nuclear-powered-middle-finger-of-F**k-off +6

[Vindesh17]

and what is your point?

[SlickHolden]

I think he is tring to say it's not welcome here:D

Or the point is the finger thats highest:p

[crisis]

I saw one on Monday. I think its the concept that is so appaling. They take a huge truck designed for the military that has been celebrityised (!) and thus becomes desirable, and then try to make a version that is better suited to the everyday d!psh!t SUV wannabe. The original design, High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV) (M998 Truck) , was designed as a replacement for M151 Jeep. The HMMWV was designed to provide a light tactical battlefield vehicle for command and control and as a weapons platform. It was also desinged to be deployable from a wide variety of aircraft and in some instances air dropped. It is large and heavy and not primarily designed for comfort or on road ability. Didnt even have a CD plyer.
Anyone who has sat in one would realise it is not a practicle option as a SUV or even as a vehicle for those interested in off road and bush driving. GM did and that is why they produced these softened versions. The fact that there are already plenty of soft SUVs and more dedicated off road 4x4s did not matter to them as they were naturally interested in playing on the name of the HMMWV Hummer and selling them to people who wanted to have a "Hummer" that they could show their friends at the mall. The reality is it is no more a HMMWV Hummer than a Boxter is a 917. However to be fair Willys saw fit to do the same thing with the original Military Jeep from WW2.

[Chevy Silverado]

dude, Hummers are badass, about 30% of the cars on the road where i live are hummers.
Yeah i kno the liberal tree huggers cry about them but no one cares what they think. And there is also ppl who cannot afford them so they automatically hate them. They cost the same as a Rangerover but are obviously way better. ;)

[Chevy Silverado]

The H2 gets my nuclear-powered-middle-finger-of-F**k-off +6
hey hippie boy, where the hell is ozland anyway?

[whiteballz]

hey hippie boy, where the hell is ozland anyway?



im surprised you cant see it, because its up your ass where your head is

[Chevy Silverado]

im surprised you cant see it, because its up your ass where your head is

Cant see what??

where is ozland?

[clutch-monkey]

Cant see what??

where is ozland?
**** you're thick.
and probably a redneck.

[Chevy Silverado]

**** you're thick.
and probably a redneck.

yeah just because im american that automatically makes me a redneck ;)

[whiteballz]

nah, your attitude makes you an idiot though.

[SPN:DOC]

dude, Hummers are badass, about 30% of the cars on the road where i live are hummers.
Yeah i kno the liberal tree huggers cry about them but no one cares what they think. And there is also ppl who cannot afford them so they automatically hate them. They cost the same as a Rangerover but are obviously way better. ;)

your an a$$, Hummers are a waste, why da F*&K you need that piece of S*(T on the road... with petrol going up these days i think it would be the best move you could make buying a hummer... :rolleyes:

better then a range rover... in what way.. the interiors of the hummer looks like a McDonalds restaurant...:rolleyes:

[crisis]

dude, Hummers are badass, about 30% of the cars on the road where i live are hummers.
Yeah i kno the liberal tree huggers cry about them but no one cares what they think. And there is also ppl who cannot afford them so they automatically hate them.
So Hummers are the doman of rich neocons? Perhaps the perfect reason not to have one. :D




They cost the same as a Rangerover but are obviously way better. ;)
I think I may have asked you in another post to explain your reasons why. Obviously is only a word you can use when something is apparent to everyone other than fanboys.

[crisis]

the interiors of the hummer looks like a McDonalds restaurant...:rolleyes:
From the nation that gave you.....

[SlickHolden]

dude, Hummers are badass, about 30% of the cars on the road where i live are hummers.
Yeah i kno the liberal tree huggers cry about them but no one cares what they think. And there is also ppl who cannot afford them so they automatically hate them. They cost the same as a Rangerover but are obviously way better. ;)
By the way hippie i don't like the Hummer for 2 reasons. It's ugly and useless in this country.
You go ahead and like them by all means but hey don't say that we are a bunch of tree huggers cause we don't like them.
I drove a Full leaded petrol car for 9 years. I think if i wanted a Hummer i would have the seance to call my mum to slap me head around fast.
People most of them buy them to feel dominate powerful rich famous big wigs. People don't buy them to go off road cause they just don't match real off road cars.

And Where is OZ I'll tell you building your next RWD Cars my friend;):p

[adrenaline]

They cost the same as a Rangerover but are obviously way better.

Id say theres no match between them. You cant even compare the interiors...the Hummer just looks plain cheap in my opinion. As far as exteriors go, Its personal preference but Id go for the rangie...it's looks help justify the price tag and all that black plastic on the hummer doesnt appeal to me. Im not saying the hummers bad..ive always liked em... but range rovers do it better.

[Cyco]

If you watch Top Gear (I realise its complete lack of bias) You will see the H2 fail to get further off road then most family sedans are capible of, yet the Range Rover was the hardest to bog on their 4wd shoot out.

As to the interior the H2 is very poorly designed and speced in comparison to the Range Rover.

[Prius]

The H2 gets my nuclear-powered-middle-finger-of-F**k-off +6

You haev great taste.

[Spastik_Roach]

You haev great taste.

No, you just like pulling the finger and big explosions.


dude, Hummers are badass, about 30% of the cars on the road where i live are hummers.
Yeah i kno the liberal tree huggers cry about them but no one cares what they think. And there is also ppl who cannot afford them so they automatically hate them. They cost the same as a Rangerover but are obviously way better. ;)


Yer man ay'll go shooort em with m....wait i'm not the redneck idiot. You are.

[Chevy Silverado]

If you watch Top Gear (I realise its complete lack of bias) You will see the H2 fail to get further off road then most family sedans are capible of, yet the Range Rover was the hardest to bog on their 4wd shoot out.

As to the interior the H2 is very poorly designed and speced in comparison to the Range Rover.

The H2 is designed to be the luxury truck while the H1 is the one that is best used off-road.
The H2 is best used showing off and makeing other ppl feel bad becuz of their rusty pickup truck or w/e.

[Chevy Silverado]

No, you just like pulling the finger and big explosions.




Yer man ay'll go shooort em with m....wait i'm not the redneck idiot. You are.
yeah just becuz we dont drive little pu**y cars here where rednecks? :confused:
i dont think so. Yeah we know u guys dont like american foreign policy but leave it out of this forum plz.

[whiteballz]

INTERNATIONAL forum, we reserve the right to voice our oppinions. just as you did earlier in the thread. so, think before posting, it makes the whole UCP seem smarter :)

thanks. oh and btw, the H1 and H2 are weak offroaders, there is a giant bloody transmission channel right through the cab, not ergonomic. not to mention, its too heavy to be decent :)

[clutch-monkey]

The H2 is designed to be the luxury truck while the H1 is the one that is best used off-road.

i agree, out of the 2 the H1 is by far the superior offroader.


The H2 is best used showing off and makeing other ppl feel bad becuz of their rusty pickup truck or w/e.
and intimidating small hatchbacks;)

[adrenaline]

The H2 is designed to be the luxury truck while the H1 is the one that is best used off-road.
You compared it against Range Rover and said it was obviously better...based on what grounds then...it has no where near the luxuriousness (if thats a word) of the rangie and from whats been said it wont go offroad nearly as far. To me it doesnt seem like its winning anywhere... :confused:

[SlickHolden]

The H2 is designed to be the luxury truck while the H1 is the one that is best used off-road.
The H2 is best used showing off and makeing other ppl feel bad becuz of their rusty pickup truck or w/e.
I think you lost the plot when you said Luxury:D.
At best they would match a Coupe4 for off road quality and the Coupe4 will still beat it but only lose on ground clearance:p.

yeah just becuz we dont drive little pu**y cars here where rednecks? :confused:
i don't think so. Yeah we know u guys don't like American foreign policy but leave it out of this forum plz.
In New Zealand they drive Aussie cars i wouldn't call a 4 door RWD car with 400HP 6Lt a little pussy.

[rev440]

In New Zealand they drive Aussie cars i wouldn't call a 4 door RWD car with 400HP 6Lt a little pussy.

And who builds those engines? Chevy? who is owned by gmc who owns hummer.


The hummer H1 is freaking amazing off road just you dont no and uve never gone off roading in one.

[Chevy Silverado]

And who builds those engines? Chevy? who is owned by gmc who owns hummer.


The hummer H1 is freaking amazing off road just you dont no and uve never gone off roading in one.

Damn rite

[rev440]

Ive rode in a H1, rides, amazing tons or torque, and great ground clearence.. Great stero too i heard its 5 grand.

[Vindesh17]

why is this even an issue? if you are comparing the range rover to the H2, there's no comparison. One main reason is the price, here in Canada the range rover is $92,000, the H2 is $65,000. Personally I would prefer to spend the extra money on the range for a better SUV. This coming from a person who currently drives an '02 Escalade.

[whiteballz]

the hummer has no place on the australian roads. then these two lovely gentelmen decided to intervine and say they were the best things since sliced bread. of which sparked a fun argument

[GT F1]

Hummer H2<Hummer H1<Land Rover RangeRover

Rangerover is way better than the H2 and H1 overall, imo. I just plain don't like the H2. I've never been in a H1 so I don't know how it is.

Edit: On a side note, what's up the advertising?

[SPN:DOC]

Hummers are a waste of space, they should be used for new scrap metal to build new fine LUXURY car like the Range Rover, BMW, Mercedes-Benz… :D ;)

[clutch-monkey]

The hummer H1 is freaking amazing off road just you dont no and uve never gone off roading in one.
a jeep wrangler will outperform it offroad for like 1/4 the price. so instead of a H1 i'd a buy a wrangler and a real car.

[taz_rocks_miami]

dude, Hummers are badass, about 30% of the cars on the road where i live are hummers.

Then 30% of drivers in your area are idiots that love to waste money.


Yeah i kno the liberal tree huggers cry about them but no one cares what they think.

Yeah, lets listen to the conservatives that love to use up 8 gallons of fuel in a single mile, specially now that gas prices are so cheap.


And there is also ppl who cannot afford them so they automatically hate them.

No, people that hate them, see them for what they are...a huge waste of money...fuel...and road space. Look everyone, I have money but no taste!!



They cost the same as a Rangerover but are obviously way better. ;)

If it's so obvious, then it should be easy to spell it out for us.

[2ndclasscitizen]

They featured the H2 on the Car Show today, a company is importing and converting H2s. Glenn Ridge said he was really uncomfortable driving it around on the road because it was so big. I've followed a H1 alonng the parkway once and i couldn't overtake it

[SlickHolden]

And who builds those engines? Chevy? who is owned by gmc who owns hummer.


The hummer H1 is freaking amazing off road just you dont no and uve never gone off roading in one.
Wasn't it a Canadian bloke that made them Engines:p
And on the 6LT 400HP 4 door car i was talking about the CSV. Who also make a 6.5LT 380KW donk.

By the way if you read the first post you would have seen my brothers mate owns the H2. And what makes you think i haven't been offroad never been in one da da da bla bla bla, You know more about me then i do by the looks of things.
That was early Wednesday It's now Saturday a lot happens in a couple of days;)
Anyway I'll be in the Ford Territory next week even without a option AWD RWD is cheaper it's still better then the H2 OffRoad:D

[syko]

Anyway I'll be in the Ford Territory next week even without a option AWD RWD is cheaper it's still better then the H2 OffRoad:D

hell yeah best thing since sliced bread, a sweet ride

[SlickHolden]

hell yeah best thing since sliced bread, a sweet ride
We have a Video Camera and it's going to be mounted on the dash all the way to Bathurst:D. Twin TV with DVD:D My brothers 18" XR8 option rims we are going Bling Bling:p.
But i said to him maybe it's a bad idea we might damage his rims they cost a mint.

[Chevy Silverado]

yeah i got threatened to be banned for saying "f*g" before, but im sure u wont.


Oh yes he was, by me, personal attacks are not tolerated on UCP.

idk why the range rover is so "great". Im sure that any American Pick-up truck with raised suspension and off-road tires can do just as good offroad as anything else. ive seen it at offroad parks. as i said before, in the united states, you are what you drive, your car is an extension of you. haveing a hummer almost instantly gets you respect on the road here.

[Guest]

the range rover and the defender work when you buy them, you dont need to modify them at all

secondly, why did u call me a "d***** **g"

[Chevy Silverado]

the range rover and the defender work when you buy them, you dont need to modify them at all"

you dont have to with the american trucks either, it just makes for better ground clearance and such.

[taz_rocks_miami]

Chevy Silverado and Jakg, if you both don't learn to express a difference of oppinion with out personal attacks, I'll ban both of you. Cut it out.

[Chevy Silverado]

a jeep wrangler will outperform it offroad for like 1/4 the price. so instead of a H1 i'd a buy a wrangler and a real car.

Thats like comparing the WW2 willy's jeep to the Army's hummer.

[Blitz_]

rofl Hummers suck, waste of money, gas guzzlers and they look pathetic. Ffs, can't yanks design good interiors? I'll give u 100 virtual bucks the next time the yanks come out with a car with a half decent interior. The Rangi is a superiour vehicle to the H2, or H1 for that matter, get over it. You haven't replied to any of the facts being posted that show that the H2 sucks in comparison, only to people who abuse you, which they have just reason to do so, or if some other twit has some half assed comment that backs ur opinion up.

[dydzi]

oh yea we've got three hummers H2 in my city and one H1 too :cool:
personally i don't have anything against hummers, only bad thing about them are their owners
and btw - chevy silverado - you're a perfect example why all the rest of the world hate america
i'm not saying i hate us myself, but lots of people don't like it because of the people like you

[Spastik_Roach]

Then 30% of drivers in your area are idiots that love to waste money.



Yeah, lets listen to the conservatives that love to use up 8 gallons of fuel in a single mile, specially now that gas prices are so cheap.



No, people that hate them, see them for what they are...a huge waste of money...fuel...and road space. Look everyone, I have money but no taste!!




If it's so obvious, then it should be easy to spell it out for us.

Tazownage :D

[Chevy Silverado]

you're a perfect example why all the rest of the world hate america, but lots of people don't like it because of the people like you
i dont really give a damn actually.

[Chevy Silverado]

rofl Hummers suck, waste of money, gas guzzlers and they look pathetic. Ffs, can't yanks design good interiors? I'll give u 100 virtual bucks the next time the yanks come out with a car with a half decent interior. The Rangi is a superiour vehicle to the H2, or H1 for that matter, get over it. You haven't replied to any of the facts being posted that show that the H2 sucks in comparison, only to people who abuse you, which they have just reason to do so, or if some other twit has some half assed comment that backs ur opinion up.

Yet again im defending myself against some anti-american socialist ****head who thinks the rangerover is the greatest vehicle in the world.
Will u tell me exactly how its better?
Does it have a 800hp engine like the hummer?
Does it have a reinforced chassis like the hummer?
Oh, and a landrover, I doubt its any better than a ford explorer.
Can someone tell me why is it so "great" or "superior" to the hummer or any other American truck?

[Mustang]

Yet again im defending myself against some anti-american socialist ****head who thinks the rangerover is the greatest vehicle in the world.

its better than the damn hummer


Will u tell me exactly how its better?
Does it have a 800hp engine like the hummer?
Does it have a reinforced chassis like the hummer?
Oh, and a landrover, I doubt its any better than a ford explorer.
Can someone tell me why is it so "great" or "superior" to the hummer or any other American truck?

does a hummer have a 800bhp engine - me thinks not
does it have a chassis that actually has a point on being on this earth - me thinks so
the thing that makes it better is the face that it CAN go off road without getting stuck

[Spastik_Roach]

Will u tell me exactly how its better?
Does it have a 800hp engine like the hummer?
Does it have a reinforced chassis like the hummer?
Oh, and a landrover, I doubt its any better than a ford explorer.
Can someone tell me why is it so "great" or "superior" to the hummer or any other American truck?

Have you ever actually bloody seen a H2 off-road?

They're absolute shite! A Land Rover Discovery, Defender, Range Rover, Even a bloody Freelander, A Jeep Cherokee, A Jeep Wrangler,, etc can destroy it off-road, because they all of them were specifically designed for off-roading, the Hummer is just a truck with 4wd, absolutely useless off-road. And to put the nail in the coffin, the Grand Cherokee, and the Range Rover, the Land Cruiser, the Nissan Patrol and the Discovery, and alot off roaders lke that, are excellent on and off road (except maybe the patrol but its helluva lot better than the H2), where the H2 is just shit at both.

Tell me, have you ever seen a H2 off-road? They're absolute shite, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaay too heavy, and Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too big in most places.

I respect the H1, as most (not all unfortuneately) owners have the brains to take them off-road. However, 99.9999999% of H2 drivers are idiots.

I suggest you go away as you are stupid.

[Chevy Silverado]

its better than the damn hummer


does a hummer have a 800bhp engine - me thinks not
does it have a chassis that actually has a point on being on this earth - me thinks so
the thing that makes it better is the face that it CAN go off road without getting stuck

Tell why it is!!?

The Turbo Diesel wagon does indeed have a 800 hp engine
The Hummer's chassis and engine is what makes it heavy than other trucks and where do you get this thing about how it gets stuck???? :confused: :confused:

[Rockefella]

Tell why it is!!?

The Turbo Diesel wagon does indeed have a 800 hp engine
The Hummer's chassis and engine is what makes it heavy than other trucks and where do you get this thing about how it gets stuck???? :confused: :confused:
First of all, we're discussing the H2, and just to counter that H1 tid-bit, I have a video on my computer somewhere of a Jeep Wrangler towing an H1 or H2 out of a ditch.

Second, I find it unbelievable that the Hummer has 800bhp, stock/production. Unless you can provide a valid link to this so-called Hummer, I'll call BS on that. EDIT:
I think: 2006 HUMMER H1 Alpha Summary
The 2006 HUMMER H1 Alpha is a 4-door, 4-passenger sport-utility, available in two trims, the Open Top 4 Door and the Wagon 4 Door.

Upon introduction, both trims are equipped with a standard 6.6-liter, V8, 300-horsepower, turbo, diesel engine. A 5-speed automatic transmission with overdrive is standard.

The 2006 HUMMER H1 Alpha is a carryover from 2005.
Third, the H2 can't go off-road, it just can't. If you don't believe me, pick up any issue of Car&Driver, MotorTrend, Road&Track, EVO, TopGear, etc. etc.

Finally, try to download the episode of TopGear where Clarkson takes a LandRover up a Scottish or Welsh mountain. Then try to repeat his feat with an Explorer/Silverado/Expedition/Excursion/Tahoe/Suburban/H1/H2.

[Mustang]

ok this might not be the best source for info but


Best Vehicle For Touring Iraq
25 AM General Hummer $85,718
Key stats: 16" ground clearance, 195 bHP V-8 turbo diesel
The lowdown: Made popular by the gulf war and Ah-nold, it can cruise through three feet of water, make mincemeat of snow, ice, or gravel, and, at rush hour, it can trample pedestrians as effortlessly as it coasts over land mines.
Celebrity equivalent: President Clinton: Plows through trash and comes out unscathed.
Maxim extra credit: Can be outfitted with a rocket launcher and is impervious to steaming camel dung.

not quite 800bhp


the hummers chassis will be like any other american "suv" useless


where do you get this thing about how it gets stuck????


Can someone tell me why is it so "great" or "superior" to the hummer or any other American truck?

enough said

[Mustang]

First of all, we're discussing the H2, and just to counter that H1 tid-bit, I have a video on my computer somewhere of a Jeep Wrangler towing an H1 out of a ditch.

Second, I find it unbelievable that the Hummer has 800bhp, stock/production. Unless you can provide a valid link to this so-called Hummer, I'll call BS on that.

Third, the H2 can't go off-road, it just can't. If you don't believe me, pick up any issue of Car&Driver, MotorTrend, Road&Track, EVO, TopGear, etc. etc.

Finally, try to download the episode of TopGear where Clarkson takes a LandRover up a Scottish or Welsh mountain. Then try to repeat his feat with an Explorer/Silverado/Expedition/Excursion/Tahoe/Suburban/H1/H2.


i have a video somewhere of a H2 that got stuck in a carpark on a little mound of soil and it had to be pulled out by a jeep :p

some serious off roading there :D

[Rockefella]

i have a video somewhere of a H2 that got stuck in a carpark on a little mound of soil and it had to be pulled out by a jeep :p

some serious off roading there :D
Oh, that may have been it, I thought it was an H1. :D

[Mustang]

Oh, that may have been it, I thought it was an H1. :D


hehe whatever it is it WAS a hummer stuck in a carpark and it couldnt get off wihtout the help from that jeep :p

[Mustang]

Finally, try to download the episode of TopGear where Clarkson takes a LandRover up a Scottish or Welsh mountain. Then try to repeat his feat with an Explorer/Silverado/Expedition/Excursion/Tahoe/Suburban/H1/H2.

think that might of been scottish hills :p

and the environment agency werent too happy with him :p

[nota]

a jeep wrangler will outperform it offroad for like 1/4 the price. so instead of a H1 i'd a buy a wrangler and a real car.
.. yep, and you could buy an old Suzuki 4WD 2-stroke for about 2% of Hummer price and they would still outperform them offroad, be more effective & get to places you couldn't reach in those glorified bordellos. Likewise with those skyhigh pickups. I'm talking about genuine offroad here, not the already-defined 'trails' or rocky paths which many in the US seem to base their offroading views on. H1 is just too big, too unwieldy to squeeze between obstacles like trees and rocks or even many standard-sized farm gates for goodness sake, whereas a more rationally sized 4WD can. Then there's Hummer's ridiculously obese weight factor as well (sinks like a stone, difficult extrication etc)

Anyone who's offroaded in virgin conditions (mountains or forrests etc) quickly realises that it's easier to make forward progress with a vehicle that can fit between obstacles, rather than driving a fatarse and having to spend hours on the chainsaw or winch

[Blitz_]

hahahaha something tells me chevy silverado wont be making a reply for a while...

[Vindesh17]

this is pointless but fun. btw why dont we just ban chevy silverado?

[taz_rocks_miami]

this is pointless but fun. btw why dont we just ban chevy silverado?

Becuase we don't ban members for having a point of view different from our own. I'm sure Chevy Silverado got the message to tone down his responces in the future.

[Chevy Silverado]

you guys are hypocritical idiots, a suzuki? wow i bet my old oldsmobile delta 88 had a better drive train than that. w/e guys u can suck the admins sch**** all u want, this might as well be the ultamate european car forums.
every someone says good about something american, theres some british jackass always gotta say some gay shit about it "sucks" , also a personaly dont give a damn what u saw on some landrover commercial. i would like to kno exactly why it is so much better than everything else. yeah i would like to see it climb the side of the Rocky mountains. And what do u mean when u say american suv chassis are so "useless". yeah im probably gonna get some smart ass answer and statistics that were just made up but o well :rolleyes:

[clutch-monkey]

every someone says good about something american, theres some british jackass always gotta say some gay shit about it "sucks" ,
no, but the trucks are overrated and really of no use to anyone outside of america, they're simply workhorses to large to be practical here, which was the point that started the argument.
you might like trucks and hummers, but they're completely useless for our conditions, they're very much an american product for american conditions. thats why ford sells an F truck like every hour or something in america, but not many anywhere else in the world.

[Blitz_]

http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR3/Compare/LR3%20vs.%20Hummer%20H2.htm

http://www.carreview.com/cat/automobiles/suv/Hummer/PRD_142944_1524crx.aspx


i seriously cbf looking around sites that blast the hummer coz thier are 2 many, but from those two you can obviously see, for one, the Land Rover, or Rangie are better, and they seriously suck some balls. They are terrible off road vehicles, especially compared to vehicles such as the Range Rover and Landcruiser, which were PURPOSE BUILT for off road use. The hummer is American manufacturing at it's worst. What a piece of shit. :D :D Just picked up a copy of 4 X 4 reviewing the H2, they laughed at its off road capabilities


Btw, you still haven't replied as to

a) why it has a shit interior
b) where that 800BHP figure came from ( out of your ass albeit )
c) why you think we are British jackass' when your in the Aussie forums
d) the replies about the hummer being pulled out by the rangie and such
e) how you think, that we think the rangie is the "greatest vehicle in the world. " we just said its much much better.

Well you've been pooned from all corners, so im waiting for your reply. :D

Good-day.

[Guest]

also a personaly dont give a damn what u saw on some landrover commercial
actually it was on Top Gear, our main motoring show in the UK and they are not that bias

yeah im probably gonna get some smart ass answer and statistics that were just made up but o well :rolleyes:
what like an 800 hp diesel?

[Cadillac Imaj]

yeah, 800bhp diesel.

[Sauc3]

'Nuff said. (http://www.nearlygood.com/video/hummerbreak.html)

[Mustang]

Ah ha biatch!!

here is my proof - hummers suck

Hummer comes to Jeep event. Hummer gets stuck on tree stump. Old Jeep saves Hummer.

World rejoices. Well, maybe not the world but the Hummer retreats with its 6,000 tail pound between its big-ass wheels.

This sorta validates our thinking (we're aware this is a pretty small sample, so spare us our illogical conclusion): Hummer drivers are total morons. Oh, we kid Hummer owners! We kid! No, it's more that Hummers aren't all that and if you don't know how to drive it properly what's the point? It's also a really wasteful vehicle.

We can debate whether these Jeep guys (or any reall four-wheel drivers) should be driving all over the freakin' place but there's one thing for sure: they know how to drive these things. Go Jeep owners!

http://carscarscars.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/stuckjeep.jpg

[Mustang]

id love to see a hummer try this :p

[adrenaline]

I dont think that 'chevy silverado' is ever gonna admit that the rangie...or anything else has the edge on the H2...i see no point in trying to explain the facts to him...hes been given all the evidence but just cant accept it...sounds like hes a fanboy or somethin...but it doesnt mean his opinion is invalid...although it isnt supported...and really i think most people are wasting their time explaining it to him...

[SlickHolden]

Tell why it is!!?

The Turbo Diesel wagon does indeed have a 800 hp engine
The Hummer's chassis and engine is what makes it heavy than other trucks and where do you get this thing about how it gets stuck???? :confused: :confused:
You know something power means jack shit if the car is no good offroad.
I could have a 200 HP 4WD that is a real offroad car, And it will kill a Hummer.
Power is great on open roads but on the off roads power isn't everything;).

you guys are hypocritical idiots, a suzuki? wow i bet my old oldsmobile delta 88 had a better drive train than that. w/e guys U can suck the admins sch**** all u want, this might as well be the ultamate european car forums.
every someone says good about something american, theres some british jackass always gotta say some gay shit about it "sucks" , also a personaly dont give a damn what u saw on some landrover commercial. i would like to kno exactly why it is so much better than everything else. yeah i would like to see it climb the side of the Rocky mountains. And what do u mean when u say american suv chassis are so "useless". yeah im probably gonna get some smart ass answer and statistics that were just made up but o well :rolleyes:
I think you have over step the limit there now It's getting personal and there might be some out there that are getting offended by some of your comments in that post that have nothing to do with cars, And I'm not British and i think the hummers suck big time. Why because they are not the best thing since slice bread nor are they the best offroad car out there, They might be allright but come on dude they are not in the class of land rover.
Even a Holden Adventra is better offroad with little tyres:p

You are anti everything that is not what you belive.

[adrenaline]

http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/pickup/163_0412_4x4/index5.html


The Ultimate 4x4 Challenge: Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, Hummer H1, Range Rover HSE, M-B G55 AMG, Lexus GX 470, Nissan Titan, Hummer H2 SUT

And the Winner Is...

In the end, numbers don't lie. Usually. For now, we've chosen nine scored categories, seven with empirically-based results that we translated into raw scores (the 60-to-80 was observational, not time measured), and two others were completed by consensus among the test drivers who moved in and out of each vehicle over all sorts of terrain and locations. That agreed-upon order allowed us to award points.



That stated, the winner of the first annual Ultimate 4x4 Challenge goes to the Range Rover in first, M-B G55 AMG in second, and the Nissan Titan in third. And although the Range Rover did pretty well in most events, it clearly didn't crush the competition. In fact, the Range Rover only won two of the nine events, the G55 won two, the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon won three, and two other vehicles won the remaining two contests. Fairly well spread out among an amazing group of competitors. Clearly the Range Rover has impressive technology and competence, making it our first winner of the Ultimate 4x4 Challenge. And though each vehicle possessed its own strengths, there is only one Truck Trend winner, and we crown the mighty Range Rover king of all 4x4s for 2004.

The Mighty Hummer H2 didnt even get a mention. Rangie took out the contest, it won 2 of the events. The Jeep Wrangler won 3!! (that proves something) What happened to the MIGHTY Hummer H2? Got its ass whooped.

[Chevy Silverado]

http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/pickup/163_0412_4x4/index5.html



The Mighty Hummer H2 didnt even get a mention. Rangie took out the contest, it won 2 of the events. The Jeep Wrangler won 3!! (that proves something) What happened to the MIGHTY Hummer H2? Got its ass whooped.

wtf did the retard driver do? try to run over trees at 70 m.p.h.?
additionally, Jeep is American.
OH and that incident when the hummer got stuck on a stump? yeah i bet it was on its front differential guard, something most other trucks dont have.

[Mustang]

wtf did the retard driver do? try to run over trees at 70 m.p.h.?
additionally, Jeep is American.
OH and that incident when the hummer got stuck on a stump? yeah i bet it was on its front differential guard, something most other trucks dont have.


you seem to of missed out several posts that also show why its so bad

oh and about the driving over tree's why not try and get over a small tree stump ;)

[Guest]

wtf did the retard driver do? try to run over trees at 70 m.p.h.?
additionally, Jeep is American.
OH and that incident when the hummer got stuck on a stump? yeah i bet it was on its front differential guard, something most other trucks dont have.
yeh but most trucks dont get caught on tree stumps

[clutch-monkey]

additionally, Jeep is American.

we know. obviously you expect us to deride this car now.

except we don't hate all american cars as you accused.

[Rockefella]

you guys are hypocritical idiots, a suzuki? wow i bet my old oldsmobile delta 88 had a better drive train than that. w/e guys u can suck the admins sch**** all u want, this might as well be the ultamate european car forums.
every someone says good about something american, theres some british jackass always gotta say some gay shit about it "sucks" , also a personaly dont give a damn what u saw on some landrover commercial. i would like to kno exactly why it is so much better than everything else. yeah i would like to see it climb the side of the Rocky mountains. And what do u mean when u say american suv chassis are so "useless". yeah im probably gonna get some smart ass answer and statistics that were just made up but o well :rolleyes:
I'm trying to stay calm but you're getting on my last nerves. If you want us to debate this, don't go off saying, "yeah, well Hummer makes an 800-hp diesel", when it's really 240 hp, or 300 hp, and then complain that we're idiots when we provide valid video links to Hummer's getting caught on off-road trails. A picture/video says a 1,000 words.

I myself like the Hummer H1, and always have... considering it's a badass American military truck, made for the roads. But the H2 is a stupid marketing joke, and I don't even wanna get started on the H3, an inline-5?!?

Finally, that LandRover video was no commercial, if someone can upload the vid, you'd notice it's TopGear, one of, if not THE, most respected automotive television show in the world. I hate when cocky people from countries representing my own are blinded by patriotism and brainwashed to the point where an alternative to 'American' can not be accepted. I'll bet you're Republican, screw it, I'm sure of it.

[Rockefella]

wtf did the retard driver do? try to run over trees at 70 m.p.h.?
additionally, Jeep is American.
OH and that incident when the hummer got stuck on a stump? yeah i bet it was on its front differential guard, something most other trucks dont have.
TruckTrend is a branch of MotorTrend, I can assure you they're tests are uniform and un-biased, especially when comparing American trucks. If they DID run a tree-stump at 70 mph, I guarantee they performed the same feat with the Jeep, although off-roading at 40+ mph is ludicrous in itself.

[SlickHolden]

For Public use was the hummer made for off-road or safe feel driving?

In the Army i guess they have there purpose but i still don't understand why they are so great for off-road driving, If i wanted to tackle the outback on ruff roads with big rocks and crap around the hummer would go great. It would go in the bush and all.
But if i wanted to climb hills muddy trees around massive dips here and there i don't think it would be the right 4WD to use.
The hummer would be right for jumping gutters running through doors into houses, Not real serious off-road driving.

[QuattroMan]

and what is your point?
I second that.....FN pointless tread...

[Mustang]

FN pointless tread...

Aussie forums ;)

[SlickHolden]

There is nothing pointless about this thread.
I simply made this thread to tell the Aussie users about the big black POS that is now here in force all 2 of them:p The Hummer.
It's no secret that they were coming here but as like some other U.S AWD-4WD's in the past not for this country at all and they will fail.
Some upstanding gent's went to great lengths to turn a peaceful thread into a fanboy fight which it never was intended to be.

[The_Canuck]

well since this has become a Jeep and land Rover vs hummer thread ive always liked the grand cheeroke espeicaly when there done up in a park ranger paint scheme(used to go up north and see them all the time). also the introduction of the jeep commander might cut into hummer sales, go jeep! oh and land rovers cool to

[Vindesh17]

tell me this why did the American army choose to send the Chevy Silverado over the H2 to send to Afghanistan? and I'll tell you something, it had nothing to do with cost. I know they used the H1 but I mean for the peace kepping part of mission, not major combat.

[SlickHolden]

Hummers are only good for knocking on the door;)

[The_Canuck]

tell me this why did the American army choose to send the Chevy Silverado over the H2 to send to Afghanistan? and I'll tell you something, it had nothing to do with cost. I know they used the H1 but I mean for the peace kepping part of mission, not major combat.
i dunno, but one thing i do know is that the Canadian army chose the mercedes g over the h2, lol our army rides in style

[Guest]

yep, the canadians ride like pimps...

[whiteballz]

one thing i forgot during the reading of this thread, is was the H2 actually designed to go off road?

because from what you are all saying the H2 is a marketing ploy to get joe average into a hummer. so its technicaly another american SUV with no hope of getting off road? is this right?

and if anyone has any links to the video of TG i would really love to see that section

[2ndclasscitizen]

go to finalgear.com, they have all the episodes listed and then go to Bittorrent tracker, heaps of them have top gear, i use http://gear.lettlurt.no:6969/index.html or http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=top+gear&cat=8

[Vindesh17]

one thing i forgot during the reading of this thread, is was the H2 actually designed to go off road?

because from what you are all saying the H2 is a marketing ploy to get joe average into a hummer. so its technicaly another american SUV with no hope of getting off road? is this right?

and if anyone has any links to the video of TG i would really love to see that section

its marketed as an off road vehicle but its not much of one.

[crisis]

idk why the range rover is so "great". Im sure that any American Pick-up truck with raised suspension and off-road tires can do just as good offroad as anything else. ive seen it at offroad parks.

Those raised suspesion things are mostly for show or specifically designed for competition. They are usless for outback driving. Those tyres would howl, handle like sh!te on the the road, the cars would be incapable or dangerous at high speed, where do you keep the spares etc. A Range Rover and in fact a H2 would be far more preferable for actual off road driving.
I dont think you really understand what off road driving is about.



as i said before, in the united states, you are what you drive, your car is an extension of you. haveing a hummer almost instantly gets you respect on the road here.
Yes most of us agree. A car like a H2 is an extension of the driver. But Im not sure it is respect it attracts.