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F1_Master
10-01-2005, 10:56 PM
Long read, but worth. Anyone feel free to get the pics. :D


When you're ripping along at 253Mph, your mind is not drifting aimlessly. Your senses are cranked up to the full volume to detect any hint of impending catastrophe in the maelstrom of wind rush, tire thrum, mechincal trash, and exhuast roar that surrounds you.
Is that slight shift in the whistling wind caused by a body panel coming loose? Does that vague vibration signal a tire starting to delaminte? Does that subtle new mechnical whine presage a failing bearing that's about to lock up the powertrain?
No such problem developed on the Bugatti Veyron 16.4, because it is not a half-baked aftermarket or boutique road burner. It is a production car developed and tested to the standards of Volkswagen, Bugatti's parent company. With a top speed of 253Mph, it is also the fastest production car ever built.
Production, of course, is a relative term. In the case of the Veyron, Bugatti plans to build about 50 cars a year at a price of $1,250,000 as this is written. To this rarefied market Bugatti has brought an unusual level of sophistication and engineering necessitated by the promise of 1001 metric horsepower (or 987 American horses) and a top speed of 252Mph, a pledge from the former VW boss Ferdinand Piech when he unveiled the production-intent Veyron at the 2001 Geneva auto show.
Achieveing 1000 horsepower in a racing engine is one thing, but to do so in a reliable, refined, durable, and emissions-legal configuration is much harder. The energizer in the Veyron is a WR16 displacing 7998cc and turbocharged with 15.8 psi of boost. You can think of it as two Passat WR8 engines put together and pumped up by four turbos.
But the Bugatti engine has more cylinders, more displacement, more power per liter, and more output overall than any other engine in the WR family tree. When I ask Bugatti development boss, Wolfgang Schreiber to explain how the same engine can be rated at 1001 SAE net but only 987 horsepower (1001 PS) for Europe, he laughs, saying, "The production engines are all putting out between 1020 and 1040 PS - enough to cover both promises."
The engine's torque peak is equally mighty at 922 pound-feet, developed between 2200 and 5500RPM. The four small turbos minimize throttle lag, and the 9.3:1 compression ratio ensures reasonable torque even before boost develops.
All the twist required a dedicated transmission. The Veyron gets a King Kong seven-speed version of VW's twin-clutch gearbox, called DSG available in the Audi TT, it operates with an automatic mode or a full manual mode via paddle shifters. Because gearchanges occur with one clutch disengaging as the other engages, shifts are uniformly smooth and swift.
With about as much engine output as two Corvette Z06 V-8s, it's no surprise that Bugatti engineers decided to go with all-wheel drive. We don't have many details about the driveline, but the front-to-rear torque split is automatically adjusted to suit dynamic conditions and can range from 100 to 0 percent at either end.
And engine-particularly a turbocharged one-that develops four-digit power throws off more heat than a dozen pizza ovens. Consequently, in the nose of the Veyron are three coolant radiators, one heat exchanger for the twin air-to-liquid intercoolers, and two air-conditioning condensers. There are also transmission and differential oil coolers on the right side and a large engine-oil cooler in the left-side air intake. To help heat escape from the engine compartment, the big WR16 sits in the open, enclosed by noe cover of any kind. This powertrain propels the 4300-pound Veyron as effortlessly and gracefully as Tiger Woods belts a 300-yard drive.
My experience with the car took place at Ehra-Lessien in Germany, Volkswagen's test track and high-speed theme park not far from VW headquarters in Wolfsburg. At least it will soon become a theme park because Bugatti plans to let Veyron owners being their cars to this 13.0-mile circuit to explore the top speed of their cars. In addition to finding out how fast the Veyron can go, I was a guinea pig for this ultimate high-speed thrill ride.
We started with two famailirization laps to get a feel for the track and the car. The track is simple, with a pair of high-banked, 150-mph corners connected by two five-mile-long straights-one of which has a slight bend so that it touches a common parking area.
With the Veyron's high beltline, I couln't see any of the front bodywork from the driver's seat, but the view of the pavement immediately in front of the car isexcellent. The driving position is comfortable, with a snug sport seat that provides great lateral support and manual fore-and-aft and seatback-angle adjustments (a plusher power seat will be optional).
Even after it was lowered to me preferred position, the steering wheel did not obstruct my view of the instrument cluster. And despite the Veyron's low, 47.5-inch height, there was plenty of clearence between my helmeted head and the headliner. Schreiber promises the car will accomodate drivers as tall as six foot seven.
Although the Veyron idles with a quiet murmur, as soon as it starts rolling, you hear a symphony of mechnical music that gives way to tire thrum when you get above 100 mph, which doesn't take long. We had no opportunity to perform acceleration testing, but the ease with which the Bugatti blows past the speed is astonishing. We predict about six seconds flat from a dead stop.
What's more, the acceleration doesn't slacken when you hit triple-digit speeds. In my first lap, I took the car up to 185Mph, at which point the tire noise was fairly loud but the Veyron otherwise calm and relaxed. One reason it felt so secure is that when you hit 137 mph, the Bugatti hunkers down, lowering its normal ride height of 4.9 inches to 3.1 in front and 3.7 in rear. At the same time, a small spoiler deploys from the rear bodywork and a wing extends about a foot, perched at a six-degree angle. Two underbody flaps ahead of the front tires also open up. This configuration produces substaintial downforce-about 330 pounds in front and 440 in the rear at 230Mph.
Given that it only takes about 500 horsepower to overcome the prevailing drag at 185, that leaves the 500 horses remaininig for acceleration duty. So when you plant your right foot at 185, the Veyron's surge of power shoves you into the driver's seat about as hard as a Corvette's does at 100Mph, or a Ford Five Hundred's does at 40Mph. Accelerating from 185 to 230 on my next lap didn't take very long, and the car remained glued to the pavement, although wind roar overcame tire thrumming to become the predominant sound.
But 230mph is about as fast the Veyron will go until you put the car into top-speed mode. This involves coming to a stop and, while the car is idling, turning a key in a lock on the floor to the left of the driver's seat. When you do that, the car sinks down even lower on its suspension, until ground clearence has been reduced to a mere 2.6 inches in front and 2.8 in the rear. This setup also causes the front underbody flaps to close and the rear spoiler and wing to retract, although the wing remains tilted out of the body at a slight two-degree angle. These changes reduce the car's drag coefficient from 0.41 to 0.36, and they reduce the peak downforce from 770 to 120 pounds.
Before proceeding further, the driver is urged to verify visually that all these aerodynamic changes have taken place, as well as to check the pressure in the special Michelin PAX System Pilot Sport tires and inspect them for any damage. Developing tires that could withstand 250-plus pounds of car, occupants, and downforce was one of the major technical challenges of the Veyron, and judging by the comparative lack of concern about the tires during my run, I'd say this problem has been solved.
Beyond this suggested checklist, there are a few catches in the procedure that will make it hard to perform a top-speed run on public roads. Once the Veyron exceeds 35Mph, if you turn the steering wheel more than 90 degrees, or so much as touch the brakes, the car's configuration reverts to the handling mode.
The reasons for this became clear during my first top-speed lap. With downforce reduced, the Veyron no longer cutting through cut through the air like some hyperkinetic fastball. Instead, it meandered slightly, something akin to a swift knuckle ball.
I barely touched the car's top-speed govenor that was set at 253Mph (407.5 kilometers per hour) on that first lap, but on the second I held the car there for at least three of the back straight's five miles. The combination of driveline noise, tire noise, and hurricane-force winds rushing over the car must have been deafening, but I don't remember it, as I concentrated on keeping the gently meandering car within the center of the track's three lines.
The straightaway was only 32-feet wide, with a low highway-type guardrail at each edge and dense forest beyond. One stretch of the straightaway didn't even have a guardrail on the outside of the track, just a grassy embankment that sloped up at about 20 degrees for about 30 feet toward the trees. Leaving the pavement and ending up in the trees was only a twitch of the steering wheel away.
Fortunately, the Veyron's steering is ideally set up for such fast running. There's absolutely no slack on-center, and the steering responds with a gentleness that makes it easy to feed in the delicate corrections needed to keep the Veyron between the center lane's dotted lines without overcorrecting. Still, I can see why Bugatti engineers don't want their customers to be passing semis on the autobahn at 200-mph plus in this low-downforce mode.

F1_Master
10-01-2005, 10:57 PM
Continued....


When you lift off the throttle at 253Mph, the aerodynamic drag alone slows the Veyron 0.3 g. After running that fast, dropping below 200 suddenly seems utterly effortless. You could not hold a cell-phone conversation at 185 but also dial a cell phone at that pace. Allocate some money to keep an attorney on retainer if you get one of these cars, because double and triple the speed limit will quickly feel comfortable and normal.
You will likely only experience this speed in short bursts, which is why the Veyron's powerful brakes will come in handy. The car is equipped with huge carbon-ceramic brakes: 15.7 inches in front with eight-piston, four-pad calipers, and 15.0 inches in back with six-piston, two-pad calipers. When you step on the brakes at high speed, the rear wing tilts up to a 55-degree angle. At 230 Mph, this increases rear downforce to 110 pounds and adds as much as 2500 pounds of drag. A panic stop at that speed produces nearly 2.00 g of initial deceleration-at least 50 percent more retardation than a Porsche 911 can generate at any speed.
With the top speed verified, Schreiber jumped into the car to demonstrate the Veyron's "launch mode," which allows the engine to light up all four tires in a full-bore accel run. He promises the Veyron will sprint fromt rest to 100km/h (62Mph) in less than 3 seconds. From this, we could conclude that the car will likely run the quarter-mile in the high 10s about 140Mph for another production-car record.
Rational thought runs for its life when faced with the prospect of a car costing $1,250,000. But we have satisfied ourselves that the Veyron is the fastest production car ever built. We expect it to be the quickest one as well. It is strikingly attractive, beautifully finished, and brimming with sophisticated and well-developed automotive technology.
We've never driven any other car that archieves and maintains high speeds so confidently and effortlessly. Veyrons will never be commonplace and will surely be decorating the 18th fairway at Pebble Beach within the next few decades. If any automobile is worth more than a million bucks, we're happy to nominate the Veyron 16.4.

Next Up:
A Bugatti to Turn a Profit
Even at $1,250,000, the Veyron not expected to earn a dime of profit for Bugatti when development and tooling costs are counted up. But this outrageous 253Mph supercar will certainly put the Bugatti name back on the automotive map in a big way and will set the stage for future Bugatti models that will be less ambitious, less expensive, sell in higher volumes, snd perhaps make money for the marque.
In an interview in the German magazine, Auto Motor und Sport, Thomas Bscher, the head man at Bugatti, has conceded the Veyron is "only an investment in the marque. We will make no money from it. That must come from a new model."
Bscher envisioned a small Bugatti sports car-two doors, four seats- costing perhaps $125,000, with a production run of maybe 2,000 vehicles a year. The new model "would use components from the VW Group," he added, "possibly from Bentley even, where a small car will not be competing with the Bentley cars. The new Bugattii may be fitted with a VW engine." Should such a new model arrive for 2008, Bugatti predicts the company would be making a profit the following year.
That will make for an unconventional Bugatti lineup, with one model costing about 10 times as much as the other. It will also make Bugattis both cheaper and ultra-luxury marques in the Volkswagen fold, Bentley and Lamborghini. These marketing problems will likely prove more challenging than the actual design and engineering of the new, higher-volume Bugatti.

Notes:
~The Veyron's structure combines a carbon-fibre central tub with a ftong aluminum space frame and a heat-resistant tubular stainless-steel rear assembly. Most body panels are carbon fibre, except for the aluminum doors.
~Underbody flaps in the nose open to relieve air pressure that builds up ahead of the front tires.
~Brakes were tested by 14 consecutive decels from 199 to 50 mph at 0.80 g.
~Suspension has control arms as well as conventional shocks with titanium coil-overs in series with hydraulic ride-height adjusters.
~Polished aluminum intakes feed, in order, air cleaners, turbos, intercoolers, and intake manifolds.
~Titanium exhuast has four tailpipes: two in the central outlet, two in the diffusers.
~The seven-speed DSG sits ahead of the engine in Lamborghini Murcielago fashion.
~Veyron interior is beautifully finished Central air vent is set into edge of engine-turned panel. Note power gauage at lower left. (PIC)
~Normal mode (top) presents max ride height and a clean body. Handling mode (middle) drops the body and extends the rear spoiler and wing. Top-speed mode (bottom) hunkers even lower and leaves just a bit of wing showing. When braking in the handling mode, the wing tilts up even more to increase drage and rear downforce. (PICS)

Stats: Bugatti Veyron 16.4
Vehicle Type: mid-engine, 4-wheel drive, 2-passenger, 2-door coupe
Base Price: $1,250,000
Engine Type: quad-turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 64-valve W-16, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection.
Displacement................448 cu in, 7998cc
Power (SAE net)...........1001 bhp @ 6000RPM
Torque (SAE net)..........922 lb-ft @ 2200RPM
Transmission.................7-speed manual with autmated shifting and clutch
Wheelbase....................106.3 in
Length/width/height........175.8/78.7/47.5 in
Curb weight...................4300 lb
Performance ratings (C/D est)
Zero to 60mph................2.9 sec
Zero to 100mph..............6.0 sec
Zero to 150mph..............11.0 sec
Zero to 200mph..............22.0 sec
Standing 1/4-mile............10.8 sec 140 mph
Top Speed (observed at govenor).......253Mph
Projected Fuel economy (C/D est)
EPA city driving...............7 mpg
EPA highway driving.........10 mpg
Steady 253 mph..............3 mpg

Guest
10-02-2005, 12:39 AM
sweet, Auto Express said "We've Driven It" but what they meant was "Weve Sat In It" it only went 230 Mph for them, because the driver wasn't entirely thrashing it and the were 1,250 feet in the air and the turbos couldnt get enough air

RazaBlade
10-02-2005, 05:56 AM
Reading it makes you realise just how much effort and work Bugatti put into this, and kinda makes their repeated delays acceptable. Some of the stuff thats in here like the high speed setting and all the technology/safety systems around that makes you applaud them for doing a good job by the sounds of it, clever thinking.

ZeTurbo
10-02-2005, 07:10 PM
For a while there i had lost all hope this car would ever make it to production.
Surprisingly, it sounds like the wait was justified.

RazaBlade
10-04-2005, 01:06 AM
Especially the bit about the underfloor flaps that relieve pressure building up around the tyres...havent heard of anything like that on any other car!

Dickrich
10-05-2005, 07:43 AM
This was first:

http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=54760

henk4
10-05-2005, 07:48 AM
yes, those were the times that Richard got some work done:D and welcome to the forums

F1_Master
10-05-2005, 06:13 PM
This was first:

http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=54760
Last time I checked, Portuguese magazines weren't exactly common in America.

RJC
10-08-2005, 09:54 AM
the ME four twelve of chrysler could be most better than your bugatti, but the problem is that Chrysler never confirm this production. but i think that they cant be waiting a lot of time to produce this monster. and the ford gt90 was the best, the bugatti is a loser.

Rockefella
10-08-2005, 10:03 AM
the bugatti is a loser.
Now now, you'll hurt it's feelings!

rev440
10-08-2005, 10:17 AM
The bugatti will never make it. The car cant be held together and its mpg is terriable. Mise well just drive a freaking tank around!

Rockefella
10-08-2005, 12:04 PM
The bugatti will never make it. The car cant be held together and its mpg is terriable. Mise well just drive a freaking tank around!
With 1,000+ hp, I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be an issue.

Tourbillon
10-11-2005, 12:15 AM
How touching... And, well... I just have to change my mind about the Veyron, after all... Considering the fact that there is a mini one with me... (From Auto-Art, complete with the cert. and serial number 909).