11th F1 Team - Who is it?

[magracer]

Huge speculation going around...

Some say it's Honda Junior Team, some McLaren is linked, others Coca Cola.

My gut tells me it's a Mugen comeback...

[drakkie]

i would expect a F3000 team.certainly not one of those.

[netburner]

After Honda announced the buy of BAR to the end of the season there were much rumors about a second Honda team for japanese drivers. In the ex-BAR-team they will have Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello, so no cockpit for Takuma Sato and that would bring them very negative press releases in japan.

[Guest]

After Honda announced the buy of BAR to the end of the season there were much rumors about a second Honda team for japanese drivers. In the ex-BAR-team they will have Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello, so no cockpit for Takuma Sato and that would bring them very negative press releases in japan.
i hadnt thought about that, seeing as Tacuma is the first japenese driver (i think)

[adamfraser]

I think netburner has just about got it :)

[magracer]

Talking for F1-live, Nick Fry is saying "these are credible people with motor racing experience and the financial backing to do the job. We are not talking about an under-funded team here, and clearly they have convinced Honda, Bernie (Ecclestone) and us that this has got potential" in addition to explaining that they have "proven capability to put together a team" and giving them a 65% chance of happening.

I'm confused because that doesn't sound as a Junior Team ( a la Red Bull), but a contract to provide Honda Motors to someone with racing heritage and being close to Honda (hence my Mugen prediction).

My wild card would be...Super Nova

[Cotterik]

After Honda announced the buy of BAR to the end of the season there were much rumors about a second Honda team for japanese drivers. In the ex-BAR-team they will have Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello, so no cockpit for Takuma Sato and that would bring them very negative press releases in japan.

That obviously isnt the case, read my thread:

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18608


At Tuesday's announcement in Tokyo, Honda operating officer Hiroshi Oshima confirmed that the Japanese company is considering supplying engines to the mystery team.

"Nothing has been decided yet as far as drivers or engines go," he said.

"But Bernie Ecclestone has given the team his blessing and we are looking into the possibility of supplying their engines."

The team is not thought to have any previous experience of F1, but whoever it is would need to have the wherewithal to design, or at least buy the intellectual rights to, construct and run a fleet of new chassis in four months.

It could be any team, a privateer team or anything, but not a second Honda team.

[Zytek_Fan]

I heard that Honda will run its factory Super GT colours next year

[Rockefella]

I'll make a stupid, uneducated guess and say Red Bull #2.

[magracer]

I'll make a stupid, uneducated guess and say Red Bull #2.

You mean, Red Bull # 3?

Because Paul Stoddart sold Minardi to them a month or so ago. Would it make sense to run different motors for the principal and Junior team? I don´t think so.

[Rockefella]

You mean, Red Bull # 3?

Because Paul Stoddart sold Minardi to them a month or so ago. Would it make sense to run different motors for the principal and Junior team? I don´t think so.
Oh yeah, nevermind that guess then.

[ruim20]

i'm not making guesses but the team that is missing is something from the SIVA group... i have no idea wether VW are thinking or ever thought about that, but that would be nice

on a real guess i'd go for a f3000 team.

[Wouter Melissen]

You mean, Red Bull # 3?

Because Paul Stoddart sold Minardi to them a month or so ago. Would it make sense to run different motors for the principal and Junior team? I don´t think so.

I doubt Ferrari will provide engines for a third team though. My guess is that the junior team will continue to use the V10 engines used in the Red Bull cars of this year. So that they will basically run this year's car next year. Another option is getting their hands on the new Cosworth V8s, but I'm guessing those will be a pricy set of pistons and valves. It makes me wonder how well developed the Radical engine is, which most definitely is the longest running of all 2.4 V8s.

[magracer]

If I'm correct Ferrari is only supplying engines to Sauber this year. Cosworth supplies both Minardi and Red Bull teams and most probably will continue to do so next year. After all, Red Bull must be happy about their performance this year, they've got more points than last year, although I think they remain in the same place in the constructor championship.

[Wouter Melissen]

If I'm correct Ferrari is only supplying engines to Sauber this year. Cosworth supplies both Minardi and Red Bull teams and most probably will continue to do so next year. After all, Red Bull must be happy about their performance this year, they've got more points than last year, although I think they remain in the same place in the constructor championship.

Sauber will be turned into a BMW team and Red Bull signed a deal earlier this with Ferrari to use their engines for next year.

[magracer]

You are right! Wasn´t aware of that...

[GT2addic]

Red Bull must be happy about their performance this year, they've got more points than last year
??? Red Bull was in Formula 1 last year???

[Jack_Bauer]

My money's on a McLaren "B-team" being launched in the next couple of years. A rumour I heard was that they were trying to link up with a major-league Japanese sponsor (poss. Sony/JVC???), and that is why Takuma Sato has been strongly linked with a drive in the proposed new team as he would be a marketing goldmine for the sponsors.

All just speculation of course. :)

[2ndclasscitizen]

My money's on a McLaren "B-team" being launched in the next couple of years. A rumour I heard was that they were trying to link up with a major-league Japanese sponsor (poss. Sony/JVC???), and that is why Takuma Sato has been strongly linked with a drive in the proposed new team as he would be a marketing goldmine for the sponsors.

All just speculation of course. :)
but are McLaren changing back to Honda? Because why would one McLaren team run MB engines and the other Hondas?

[magracer]

Autosport reports the 11th Team are getting the BAR-Honda (now Honda) 2006 chassis in addition to their engines. Hmm, now it sounds a lot as a Junior Team, but why is Nick Fry talking about "people" that know what they are doing, have enough funding, etc.

My conclusion is that it has to be someone really close to their hearts (and their wallets). I'm thinking of something like ProDrive and Subaru have for WRC. Anyone from Japan can tell us if a third party runs cars for HOnda for JGTC or other events?

Edit: Nevermind, it's Auguri Suzuki's "Dome" (Maker of GT3's NSX Takata Dome), who coincidentially was named in one of the sources I read.

[magracer]

Source: Autosport

Former Grand Prix driver Aguri Suzuki is set to confirm his plans tomorrow to enter a Honda-backed team in Formula One, although it is not clear whether he still intends to make the jump next year or wait until 2007

I hate to say "I told you so" but, I told you so... :D :D :D

[Zytek_Fan]

Ecclestone has $150 million ready for an F1 team

[magracer]

Meaning he is going to start his own F1 team?

If that is not conflict of interest, I don´t know what it is.

[Vaigra]

Former driver launches new F1 team


Ex-Formula One driver Aguri Suzuki has revealed his plans to launch a new team next season, with help from Honda.
The Japanese manufacturer, who already own BAR, last month revealed they were in talks to back a second team.

Suzuki's Super Aguri outfit have now been confirmed as the new team and have lodged an entry into the 2006 world championship with world governing body the FIA.

"We have cleared all the hurdles we had to clear up to this point," Suzuki told reporters.

"Obviously there is a huge amount of work left but we plan to be on the grid in 2006."

Honda will supply Suzuki's team with engines but how they source a chassis is still undecided.

Suzuki had looked at the option of buying the intellectual property rights to last season's BAR chassis or buying a 2007 model from Honda. However, the sport's ruling Concorde Agreement currently forbids this.

Suzuki did confirm he wants Takuma Sato as his main driver, although he would not reveal whether Anthony Davidson is in line to partner the ex-BAR driver.

"We are at a nice stage in talks with Takuma," said Suzuki.

"I'd like to see him racing with a good team and he'll want that too. Our goal is to build a team he will want to drive for."

The new team will be based in Tokyo but will operate out of the former Arrows headquarters in Leafield in Oxfordshire.

Suzuki already has teams competing in the Indy Racing League and Japan's Super GT series but he will become the first all-new Formula One team since Toyota in 2002 if his plans succeed.