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660z
11-03-2005, 02:50 PM
What do you think this is

6'bore
11-03-2005, 02:56 PM
Only one thing to comment on.

Loving the three completely different seats in the car.

adamfraser
11-03-2005, 02:59 PM
Haha...never noticed the seats!! Also, the racing stripes, known as "Rice Strips" around here, look so crap.

I dont really know what it is.... wouldnt be seen in it though!

660z
11-03-2005, 03:01 PM
It has got 550bhp..................578lbs/ft

CSL
11-03-2005, 03:02 PM
racing stripes only look good on some cars and in certain colors

the whole seat thing is dumb, dosent even have a 5 point harness

what kinda car is it

660z
11-03-2005, 03:03 PM
It has a 6 point Willans harness for driver and 4 point for passenger

660z
11-03-2005, 03:03 PM
the stripes are being removed

6'bore
11-03-2005, 03:04 PM
and 4 point for passenger

Looks like a stock seat to me.

Don't you mean the baby seat?

660z
11-03-2005, 03:05 PM
the seat in the middle is a baby seat

660z
11-03-2005, 03:06 PM
No the stock seat has a 4 point harness attached to the roll cage behind it

6'bore
11-03-2005, 03:15 PM
What is the story behind this car. Is it yours or something? Or do you just want our opinion on it?

660z
11-03-2005, 03:18 PM
Well I have just bought it, but want some honest opinions on it, also a bit of a quizz since you guys are all petrolheads I wonder if you can guess what it is.

GT F1
11-03-2005, 03:23 PM
Dodge Neon?

Clique
11-03-2005, 03:33 PM
you want my humble opinion the car is crap... and egg-nogg it...

:Exige:
11-03-2005, 03:34 PM
Looks like some strange Ford Taurus ... I don't like it a huge amount.

sleekeywoowoo
11-03-2005, 03:35 PM
It looks weird, in the small pic i thought it was a mazda 323, but in a bigger pic to me it sorta looks like a 240Z with Ford Tauraus headlights...hmm,but i could be wrong.

GT F1
11-03-2005, 03:38 PM
How does the hood open?

660z
11-03-2005, 03:46 PM
Here's another view

660z
11-03-2005, 03:47 PM
Sleekeywoowoo, top man how on earth could you tell

660z
11-03-2005, 03:51 PM
more photos hood uses Viper components

GT F1
11-03-2005, 03:53 PM
How much did you pay for it, if you don't mind me asking?

6'bore
11-03-2005, 03:54 PM
No offence but I hate the thing.

660z
11-03-2005, 03:57 PM
No offence taken mate, just a different opinion

sleekeywoowoo
11-03-2005, 03:58 PM
Sleekeywoowoo, top man how on earth could you tell

Hmm thats pretty sweet that i got it, but its just cause my friend got a ford taurus and the lights always piss me off on it cause it has ...they look ugly on the ford taurus and the long hood and body shape and bamn, although the fron bumperdid throw me off, but in other words. It was a guess.

Coventrysucks
11-03-2005, 04:00 PM
It used to be a 240z but now has a 6.6-litre V8 and looks silly?

sleekeywoowoo
11-03-2005, 04:08 PM
Ever consider putting an original front end back on it? And is the side shaved or molded or anything cause it looks really plain..

660z
11-03-2005, 04:14 PM
well when I first saw it in the photos I was not convinced about the front end but in the flesh it looks a lot better, problem with the original front end is the weight and aerodynamics as it is the whole front end is mostly carbon fibre and it weighs only 50lbs with the lights, it will probably do over 200mph, the rainwater gutters have been removed

Mustang
11-03-2005, 04:18 PM
Only one thing to comment on.

Loving the three completely different seats in the car.


the car behind has some weird expanding foam in it :p

Forever92
11-03-2005, 04:20 PM
Ur basic ricer...

Coventrysucks
11-03-2005, 04:36 PM
the car behind has some weird expanding foam in it :p

It's being driven by a mattress.

baddabang
11-03-2005, 06:12 PM
Whats so "Rice" about it if its got 500+ HP?

SilverG35SportC
11-03-2005, 08:27 PM
Yeah, I think the decimal got moved around:confused: ...he meant 50.0 bhp. Hahahaha rice!

magracer
11-03-2005, 08:31 PM
Well, it looks awkward but in my opinion that's secondary...

How does it drive? Any hard data? Have you sorted out the gremlins out of that swap?

PerfAdv
11-03-2005, 08:42 PM
the car behind has some weird expanding foam in it :p
I guess you wouldn't need a sun-shade in the UK. It's usually made of cardboard and unfolds to fit inside the windshield, keeps car cool in intense sun.

EDIT: The car looks unreal, almost like a chop.

2ndclasscitizen
11-03-2005, 08:51 PM
Yeah, I think the decimal got moved around:confused: ...he meant 50.0 bhp. Hahahaha rice!
i dount any V8 engine that big only has 50hp...think, then don't post

spi-ti-tout
11-04-2005, 12:10 AM
EggNog first guys...EggNog first. No use for anything else before that.

Matra et Alpine
11-04-2005, 03:54 AM
it will probably do over 200mph, the rainwater gutters have been removed
On what basis ?
The 240 is a fairly large frontal area.
Also I'd recommend NOT going there as there is not a lot on front aero to control front-end-lift.
How fast have you got it ?
If you've dropped the weight from the front end by as much as you suggest then I would estimate you'll get front end wander in the 130-150 range. By 200 I'm guessing it will become unsteerable. If you try to go there, please ensure you've wide track and plenty of run-off.

I'm one who'd have liked to have it retain the classic 240 looks.
Now it looks like a kit car ( not all that bad ) and there are better platforms to run a kit off !

In asking UCP opinion, you'll possibly do best if you post some details about the car.
What suspension is it running, what rates, angles, tyre sizes and compound. Engine ? Gearbox ? Drive train ? - what ratios etc. Corner weights, CoGs, drag/lift versus speed calculations r measurements.
With a pic you'll only get comments about that :( and may feel you then have to defend your purchase choice which was based on the WHOLE package.

Piacki_117
11-04-2005, 08:10 AM
What do you think about this, guys?

Thats pretty ugly and I prefer from far my Laguna 1.9 DCi!!


PS : there are not only guys on this forum.

660z
11-04-2005, 02:13 PM
LOL on the 50bhp joke.................some guys have rice in place of a brain matter and simply cannot engage brain b4 posting.......lolololol..........

Actually the car is a 1973 260Z. (with a near identical bodyshell as a 240Z)

200mph on the basis that.
1. It now has a much reduced frontal area, some of the R&D guys at Ford reckon it probably has a Cd factor of 0.26, I estimate it to be about 0.32 so it has a much reduced drag factor than a 240Z, its windscreen has been bonded flush with the bodywork, the whole body has been shaved, rw guttering etc, the vents behind the front arches reduce the pressure build up in the front arches, the front spoiler was designed to reduce lift. And of course the Jim cook racing rear spoiler reduces rear lift.
2. It's Custom built T5 World class gearbox has a final drive ratio of .63. check out the photo for the engine speed in fifth, the speedo has been checked and is accurate to the nearest 0.5mph at 100mph, Its theoretical top speed based on its gearing is 292mph.at a redline of just under 6750rpm, the rev-counter is actually over reading by approx 10%.
3. Based on my experience at 186mph in a Porsche 944turboS with only 325bhp I am confident this car will crack 200mph with ease, the car has registered 160mph at 5900rpm in 4th gear this was a very short blast of speed, the car felt like it had loads in reserve and in doing so it felt even more composed and stable than the Porsche even on a poorly surfaced road in the USA (and yes British motorways are generally in far better condition the American Interstates)
4. The car has done the standing quarter mile in 11.571 [email protected] (1/8th 7.764 @ 102.99mph it was running lean with a 14.7:1 A/F ratio, this was a shakedown run in road trim and tire pressure, I feel it will easily drop into the high 10’s with some tweaking.
5. It has been supposedly radar checked at 180mph and was described as very stable with more to go, I can verify that at 160mph it felt rock solid with very good stability and little or no lift.

Regarding other mods it is running SSR Integral lightweight wheels 17x8F and 17x9R with Goodrich Comp T/A KDW tyres 235/45ZR’s F and 255/45ZR’s rear.
Suspension is by Tokiko Illumina 5 way adjustable in shortened housings with Eibach Springs 250F and 275R.
Front Lower control arms are Rose jointed (Heim) and the rear lower control arms are custom built in chrome moly.
Eibach F & R roll bars all rubber bushings replaced with urethane except for steering coupler which is new OEM.

Brakes are Willwood ultralite 4pots with vented discs allround.

Engine is 407ci (6670 cc) fully blueprinted with JE/SRP flat top Forged pistons with 10.24:1 compression ratio. Callies steel crank with Crower rods, solid roller cam and rockers, Ported and flowed Dart Sportsman Aluminium straight plug heads, Ported Pro dominator tunnel ram base with custom plenum and ported Lincoln Mk 7 throttle body (twin sequential 57mm) Mallory unilite distributor and Meziere electric water pump (controlled by ECU for warm up) Tliton XLT superlight starter and Haltech E6 ECU laptop programmable.
Nismo 3.15 diff with LSD soon to be changed to Quaife lsd
Wet sump system currently uses a 6qt Corvette oil pan with high pressure oil pump, for engine longevity due to the high G’s this car is capable of pulling in the bends I will be fitting a dry sump system.

Due to extensive weight saving measures the car weighs 2625lbs (1190Kg) 52.3% of this is at the rear, which gives it a power to weight ratio of 469bhp/ton. The moment of inertia is also improved over the standard Z, (legendary for its handling balance) since the engine sits entirely behind the front axle.

The car feels very rigid with a 6 point roll cage with additional front and rear strut bracing.

I can also confirm that on a long run its fuel consumption was approximately 20% better than a PT Cruiser, I have not calculated the exact figure yet but I figure it is in the 30mpg range (UK galls)

Vaigra
11-04-2005, 02:20 PM
you've just bought it? That so looks like North America to me.

660z
11-04-2005, 02:28 PM
Well I bought it a few months ago from Detroit then drove it from there to LA where it is being shipped to the UK

Matra et Alpine
11-04-2005, 08:29 PM
LOL on the 50bhp joke.................some guys have rice in place of a brain matter and simply cannot engage brain b4 posting.......lolololol..........
do remember that your first posts only showed the PICTURES and it LOOKS riced :) Not sure what you were expecting :D

Thanks for the info as requested, that makes a lot of difference !!
Still think you're optimistic on that Cd :)
Shit, 6.6litres !! Yeah the front isn't going to lift much with that lump there !!

Fully adjustable suspension so presumably you've got a fair bit of front caster and camber dialed in ??

Nice piece of kit and see you drag it. Competitively or just fun ??

sleekeywoowoo
11-04-2005, 09:01 PM
Same car correct? http://info.detnews.com/joyrides/story/index.cfm?id=235

660z
11-05-2005, 01:21 AM
Yup same car though I think he was a little bit optimistic with his performance claims at the time, It has been featured in numerous magazines over the world. I think it looks better without the stripes so they will be coming off asap.
I have a ticket to verify the figures I quoted, however I think in its current guise it has the potential to go even faster.
Re the Cd you must remember it is a very small and low car it looks even smaller on account I think of its lack of bumpers etc, the body is very sleek especially the front end which has a very small frontal area, you have to remember that even the calibra has a Cd of around 0.26 so I feel it should be 0.32 at the very least. Of course based on my experience of the car over about 2500miles I am certain it will do at least 200mph maybe considerably more.
The car was built for fast road / circuit work so it only did a few 1/4 mile runs just to get an idea of its performance. Of course once it is in then UK it will be visiting the Pod a few times to check perfromance enhancements but on the whole it will be used on the road and for track days, it even has fully functional aircon.

Adjustable camber currently F-3 and -2.5 R
Caster +2.8