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Cotterik
11-21-2005, 02:48 AM
Comp #24 Voting thread active. Click here (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?p=430884#post430884) to vote

Standings so far:

cheesetacular 2x, titanboy 24 x2, Pinin 1x, Pergarec 1x, FikseGTS 1x, Drakkie 1x, Zeppelin 3x, Cotterik x4, shaitan x1, pininfarinaPIMP x1, Dino Scuderia x2, Sauc3 x1, <AAA-MOD> x2, Niko_Fx x1


Rules:
the photograph must be yours
the photograph must be attatched using the UCP system
the photograph image must be no larger then 800 x 600
the photograph can contain ANY image (other then adultorous material)
the photograph must be taken no earlier then 6 months before start date
Any users who enter and vote for themselves automatically recieve a 2 week penalty from the competition and all votes previously given to his/her photo are removed.

the entry must contain the following information:

user name
date taken
type of camera
subject matter

whiteballz
11-21-2005, 03:43 AM
alright, lets see if i get this right...


username = whiteballz
camera = fujifilm S5000
location = my backyard
subject = some form of plant

syko
11-21-2005, 06:45 AM
username: syko
date taken: november 2005
type of camera: ricoh g4 wide
subject matter: a termite

my porsche
11-21-2005, 08:25 AM
my porsche
november 2005
sony dsc-s90
my cat in B&W

<AAA-MOD>
11-21-2005, 08:49 AM
username: 355 Rossa
date taken: 1 November 2005
type of camera: Sony DCS-F828
subject matter: empty curve

that looks a bit questionable whether it's been 'shopped. how did you create the black shades in the corners?

<AAA-MOD>
11-21-2005, 08:56 AM
AAA-MOD
10-OCT-05
Canon 20D
Willy (Wheaton Terrier)

Cotterik
11-21-2005, 10:19 AM
that looks a bit questionable whether it's been 'shopped. how did you create the black shades in the corners?

was going to say the same thing

brilliant photo though

PerfAdv
11-21-2005, 10:26 AM
that looks a bit questionable whether it's been 'shopped. how did you create the black shades in the corners?
One too many filters? I've gotten that when I screw in two filters and don't zoom beyond the filter housing in the corners. Also, possibly cropped top left of a larger pic.

Piacki_117
11-21-2005, 10:57 AM
Piacki117
09-17-05
Forêt de Fontainebleau (Dpt 77)
Sagem MyX6-2 (phone)

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=150908&stc=1&d=1132595969

<AAA-MOD>
11-21-2005, 12:04 PM
One too many filters? I've gotten that when I screw in two filters and don't zoom beyond the filter housing in the corners. Also, possibly cropped top left of a larger pic.

we'll wait for an explanation from Rossa i guess

355 Rossa
11-21-2005, 12:09 PM
aahhahahahahaa...
sorry guys, i am new here, didn't know that the rule was never to use photoshop...
i guess i have been eliminated...

<AAA-MOD>
11-21-2005, 12:22 PM
aahhahahahahaa...
sorry guys, i am new here, didn't know that the rule was never to use photoshop...
i guess i have been eliminated...

no problem. it was a great shot nonetheless, and the shading looks great, but we're trying to keep the contest to untouched photographic abilities alone, except for cropping of course. We have a Photoshop forum over here http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=27 if you're interested.

Welcome to UCP by the way.

johnnynumfiv
11-21-2005, 02:31 PM
It doesn't say no photoshop in the rules.

Cotterik
11-21-2005, 03:23 PM
thats actually a very good point!

Niko_Fx
11-21-2005, 04:58 PM
Choping other than cropping a bit shouldn't be allowed imo...

But that's just me, I'll leave it up to you guys.

zeppelin
11-21-2005, 06:29 PM
Zeppelin
Cliff edge view of Lake Louise valley
October 23rd 2005
Kodak DX6340

r1ckst4
11-21-2005, 06:39 PM
r1ckst4
13/11/05
Big Boys Toys, Auckland
Olympus C-460

*PHOTO REMOVED BY ME* ;)

Speedracer38
11-21-2005, 08:01 PM
r1ckst4
13/11/05
Big Boys Toys, Auckland
Olympus C-460

this isnt the automotive photo comp.

Rockefella
11-21-2005, 08:05 PM
My entry.

http://x12.putfile.com/11/32222184294.gif

my porsche
11-21-2005, 08:09 PM
haha i want it as my avatar

r1ckst4
11-21-2005, 08:13 PM
this isnt the automotive photo comp.
Go to the 1st page of this thread and tell me where it says no pictures of cars allowed.

<AAA-MOD>
11-21-2005, 08:39 PM
Go to the 1st page of this thread and tell me where it says no pictures of cars allowed.

come on, you and every other regular user knows that we keep this comp for anything but cars. that's why there's an automotive comp. don't be so silly.

355 Rossa
11-21-2005, 08:46 PM
how about photoshoped?
hehehehehhee...

r1ckst4
11-21-2005, 11:51 PM
come on, you and every other regular user knows that we keep this comp for anything but cars. that's why there's an automotive comp. don't be so silly.
i can recall a a few comps ago (when drakkie still ran this comp) there was a guy who entered a pic of an F430, i asked Drakkie if this was ok and guess what his anwer was.... he sad that its okay since the rules doesnt state anything about not allowing pics of cars.

I'll let Cotterik be judge. I know it's not good enough to win the comp anyway. I just thought i'd enter.

drakkie
11-22-2005, 01:03 AM
i can recall a a few comps ago (when drakkie still ran this comp) there was a guy who entered a pic of an F430, i asked Drakkie if this was ok and guess what his anwer was.... he sad that its okay since the rules doesnt state anything about not allowing pics of cars.

I'll let Cotterik be judge. I know it's not good enough to win the comp anyway. I just thought i'd enter.

true,

i find that a GENERAL photography competition can have all sorts of pictues, as long as they are not of "adult" material. Therefor i have no problem with it.You are likely to get less votes though.... I will let Cotterik decide on this, but this is just what I think is right.

drakkie
11-22-2005, 01:11 AM
Last one from this series before i cannot enter them anymore:

Drakkie
"Donald Duck and his friends"
6-1-2005 (early morning)
Olympus D-540Z
Tenellaplas,Oostvoorne,The Netherlands.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=151058

KeRmIt
11-22-2005, 02:50 AM
KeRmIt
The River & watering hole which we named 'Blue Rock' , on the property my family own in Mudgee, in NSW Australia
October--2005 (Afternoon)
Fuji FinePix S7000 Digital
Mudgee, Inner Western NSW, Australia

Cotterik
11-22-2005, 03:09 AM
Well seeing as I run both the general and the automotive photo comps. I'd say that I run each competition separately because theres a distinct difference between what each competition usually requires as an entry. I.E the automotive comp consists of cars, obviously. The general photo competition is usually a step aside of that and usually consists of everything and anything other than automotive material. Although the rules do not specifically say that automotive material is not allowed, I think its fair to say that car photography should stay loyal to the automotive competition. Just becase its alot more practical that way. Otherwise we might end up with two very similar competitions.

r1ckst4
11-22-2005, 05:22 AM
Well seeing as I run both the general and the automotive photo comps. I'd say that I run each competition separately because theres a distinct difference between what each competition usually requires as an entry. I.E the automotive comp consists of cars, obviously. The general photo competition is usually a step aside of that and usually consists of everything and anything other than automotive material. Although the rules do not specifically say that automotive material is not allowed, I think its fair to say that car photography should stay loyal to the automotive competition. Just becase its alot more practical that way. Otherwise we might end up with two very similar competitions.
fair enough... i have just removed my entry.

so, where is the automotive photo comp?

i just noticed something, PHOTO COMPS have its own section now! wooo! :D
congrats Drakkie and Cotterik.

clutch-monkey
11-22-2005, 05:30 AM
KeRmIt
The River & watering hole which we named 'Blue Rock' , on the property my family own in Mudgee, in NSW Australia
October--2005 (Afternoon)
Fuji FinePix S7000 Digital
Mudgee, Inner Western NSW, Australia
which one are you entering, and they're all too big :p

Cotterik
11-22-2005, 08:02 AM
fair enough... i have just removed my entry.

so, where is the automotive photo comp?

i just noticed something, PHOTO COMPS have its own section now! wooo! :D
congrats Drakkie and Cotterik.

heh since i run both competitions now, the whole section is mine :rolleyes:

the automotive comp 51 starts on friday, the voting for comp 50 lasts a whole week since it was a special.

PerfAdv
11-22-2005, 10:23 AM
Ricksta, enter your nympho. :D She's bound to get some votes.

forza_autodelta
11-22-2005, 12:33 PM
Zeppelin's pics are awesome:)

355 Rossa
11-22-2005, 01:23 PM
username: 355 Rossa
date taken: 3 November 2005
type of camera: Sony DCS-F828
subject matter: speed of light

Piacki_117
11-22-2005, 01:28 PM
nice pic 355

Cotterik
11-22-2005, 01:59 PM
If i havent bored everyone with my huge bundle of slow shutter traffic shots, that might get a few votes :)

johnnynumfiv
11-22-2005, 02:02 PM
Why did he enter twice?

RacingManiac
11-22-2005, 02:38 PM
RacingManiac
"Water Droplet"
Nov 18, 2005
Konica Minolta Maxxum 5D+AF 50 f/1.7

http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/459041c.jpg

Cotterik
11-22-2005, 02:45 PM
oh, now thats just a rip of my tapwater shot!

but its f*cking brilliant

i love it :p

Cotterik
11-22-2005, 02:46 PM
Why did he enter twice?

first was photoshopped, according to him

RacingManiac
11-22-2005, 02:50 PM
I took that to kill my boredom while waiting for water to boil to cook my dinner...and to test my lens' sharpness....timing was impossible...lol

Cotterik
11-22-2005, 02:57 PM
dont you just love it when a photo turns out unexpectedly awesome

my porsche
11-22-2005, 03:52 PM
how is it green?

Cotterik
11-22-2005, 04:01 PM
green bowl, son!

my porsche
11-22-2005, 04:48 PM
he sadi it was the water waiting to boil, plus you can see the stainless steel sides :p im just curious

RacingManiac
11-22-2005, 06:36 PM
no the water for food is on the stove...that was in the sink...

CHEESE-TACULAR
11-22-2005, 07:18 PM
CHEESE-TACULAR
Chinese Koi
Two weeks ago
Prospect Park Zoo
Canon 350D
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=151269&stc=1&d=1132712278

r1ckst4
11-22-2005, 07:26 PM
Ricksta, enter your nympho. :D She's bound to get some votes.
what the hell r u on about boy? :D

PerfAdv
11-22-2005, 07:32 PM
what the hell r u on about boy? :D
Oh...I mean in the competition, enter your nympho. I'm not being perverse or anything :D

PerfAdv
11-22-2005, 08:08 PM
PerfAdv
September 2005
Konica Minolta A200
Frog Fish hiding
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=151272&d=1132715320

355 Rossa
11-22-2005, 09:19 PM
Why did he enter twice?

I've just delete my first entry...

Lani Kai
11-23-2005, 12:12 AM
I didn't know such a thread existed... Now that there's a separate section on the forum I think I'll be coming here more often.

Username: Lani Kai
Date: 11/16/2005
Camera: Canon EOS 20D, EF-S 17-85 f/4-5.6 IS USM
Location: University of California, Irvine

Cotterik
11-23-2005, 02:09 AM
I didn't know such a thread existed... Now that there's a separate section on the forum I think I'll be coming here more often.

Username: Lani Kai
Date: 11/16/2005
Camera: Canon EOS 20D, EF-S 17-85 f/4-5.6 IS USM
Location: University of California, Irvine

welcome to the comp. Could you resize the original photo to 800x600 please? thats a tad too small.


PerfAdv
September 2005
Konica Minolta A200
Frog Fish hiding

WHAT THE?

is that a fish? how the heck did it do that?

zeppelin
11-23-2005, 03:58 AM
Wow, there are some really good pics in this competition. Especially racingmaniac's water shot, great work.

my porsche
11-23-2005, 08:19 AM
how do you guys get the fish pictures? theres no glare or anything

Wouter Melissen
11-23-2005, 08:21 AM
how do you guys get the fish pictures? theres no glare or anything

Just hold your camera under water and click.

drakkie
11-23-2005, 08:42 AM
and click.

if it has been drowned first :D

PerfAdv
11-23-2005, 08:55 AM
WHAT THE?

is that a fish? how the heck did it do that?

Frogfish are from the Anglerfish family, they wait for unsuspecting prey to stumble by and whack! These fish aren't fast enough to chase prey or to run away from predators so they just try to blend.

PerfAdv
11-23-2005, 09:01 AM
how do you guys get the fish pictures? theres no glare or anything
In my case, I photographed an exhibit that's recreating the deep coral reefs. There were no light sources outside just a glow in the tank. So I shot the Frogfish without flash while being very still for about 3 seconds.

Esperante
11-23-2005, 03:36 PM
Esperante
Skyline from Veterans Park
July 2, 2005
Milwaukee
Canon Powershot A40
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=151356&stc=1&d=1132785314

El_diablO
11-23-2005, 04:57 PM
racingmaniac... awesome pic.. nice catch...

CHEESE-TACULAR
11-23-2005, 06:34 PM
Just hold your camera under water and click.
wout's right...i climb over a giant zoo tank and just dip my $1000 piece of photography equipment right in :rolleyes:

Esperante
11-23-2005, 07:25 PM
If i havent bored everyone with my huge bundle of slow shutter traffic shots, that might get a few votes :)
I thought the same thing hen you started entering from my excessive time-lapse photos. :p

Lani Kai
11-24-2005, 02:05 AM
Could you resize the original photo to 800x600 please? thats a tad too small.

My bad, thought it was just supposed to be something smaller than 800x600. Anyway, I fixed it.

Niko_Fx
11-24-2005, 12:29 PM
Meh.. Just to participate I guess..

Niko_Fx
Sky
Last Month
Weston, FL
Kodak Z740

netburner
11-24-2005, 03:13 PM
netburner
Berliner Dom
last weekend
Berlin/Germany
HP PhotoSmart 735 (3.2 Megapixels)

my porsche
11-24-2005, 07:50 PM
c_t...$1,000? im assuming thats a hyperbole :p seriously how do you do it?

Pinin
11-25-2005, 05:51 AM
Just playing around with my camera, meh.

Pinin
Forgot date, few months ago?
Canon PowerShot A85
My LaCoste thing

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=151667&d=1132923068

Guest
11-25-2005, 09:33 AM
how do you guys get the fish pictures? theres no glare or anything
just hold the Camera close to the Tank, my picture ( http://www.YPCPeaches.tk if youre interested) were taken in a darkened room with no flash and a light from above the water, and they came out fine!

Cotterik
11-25-2005, 02:38 PM
I need to get out taking some more photos I'm running out!

I'm also saving up for a canon 350D in the near future cant wait :) Not as easy for me to afford one as some of you so its a big thing!

Cotterik
Vivid sunset on the river mersey
Liverpool
August 2005
Canon PowerShot A85

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=151720&d=1132954684

Pinin
11-25-2005, 04:37 PM
I'm also saving up for a canon 350D in the near future cant wait :) Not as easy for me to afford one as some of you so its a big thing!

Haha, so am I. I probably won't be able to afford one until January but I'm definatley getting a 350D some time soon. I can't wait.

Cotterik
11-25-2005, 06:36 PM
cool :) I'm hoping to get this deal, with the 18-55 lens adapter. Pretty good price. Which bundle are you looking at? and what price?

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/88654/art/canon/eos-350d-ef-s-18-55-ii.html#fichetechnique

my porsche
11-25-2005, 06:40 PM
where would i find more lenses for my camera? id like different ones but im not sure where to get them and also can you show me some samples of the effects of different lenses? (talking to the photo master, cotterik here :p)

Pinin
11-25-2005, 06:45 PM
I'm looking at the same one, black body with 18-55 lens, since it's the cheapest. It's a bit more than the one you linked to but I can't buy from the intenet... maybe I'll get lucky in the Jan sales. :) The next thing I'll get is probably a better lens for it.

http://www.jessops.com/search/viewproduct.cfm?PRODUCT=CANEOS350DB1855&BRAND=&CONTINUE=false&FEATS=&FIRSTPRICE=&KEYWORD=&LEVEL=&MODELNUMBER=&NEWQUERY=True&NODE=0&NODE_PATH=0&ORD=ASC&ORDERBY=&QUANTITY=40&RECENT=0&REFINE=&SEARCH_FOR=350d&SEARCHNODE=0&SEARCHURL=dointellisearch.cfm&SECONDPRICE=&SHOWCASEID=&STARTROW=1&SUBS=&WORD_SEARCH=Y&

Cotterik
11-25-2005, 07:16 PM
I'm looking at the same one, black body with 18-55 lens, since it's the cheapest. It's a bit more than the one you linked to but I can't buy from the intenet... maybe I'll get lucky in the Jan sales. :) The next thing I'll get is probably a better lens for it.

http://www.jessops.com/search/viewproduct.cfm?PRODUCT=CANEOS350DB1855&BRAND=&CONTINUE=false&FEATS=&FIRSTPRICE=&KEYWORD=&LEVEL=&MODELNUMBER=&NEWQUERY=True&NODE=0&NODE_PATH=0&ORD=ASC&ORDERBY=&QUANTITY=40&RECENT=0&REFINE=&SEARCH_FOR=350d&SEARCHNODE=0&SEARCHURL=dointellisearch.cfm&SECONDPRICE=&SHOWCASEID=&STARTROW=1&SUBS=&WORD_SEARCH=Y&

ah yes I'm considering the jessops deal too as It saves having to get it from the net, and as you said if i wait until january sales when my birthday is, i may be able to get it a bit cheaper. Soon afterwards ill save up for the 18-200 lens adapter. Although i think the 18-55 will do me pretty good for the time being. I plan to start spending all my money on my 350D once its mine heh.


where would i find more lenses for my camera? id like different ones but im not sure where to get them and also can you show me some samples of the effects of different lenses? (talking to the photo master, cotterik here :p)

You have the Sony DSC-S90 right? It's increasingly hard to find suppliers for lens adapters for that range. However i recommend searching your way through the world of google, and see if you can find yourself a VAD-PEB Lens Adapter. This lets you use a few upgrades to your lens including the VCL-DH2630 Telephoto Converter which I'd recommend the most. The only down side is that they dont come cheap. A quick search gave me this price list: http://www.ukdigital.co.uk/sony_dsc_s90.htm and an individual price: http://www.electronics-online.co.uk/acatalog/Sony_VCL_DH2630_Lens.html But anyway as i was saying I'd recommend the VCL-DH2630 as the best upgrade for your camera. I'm not too experienced with the Sony camera range myself but thats what I would do if i were in your position.

Pinin
11-25-2005, 07:24 PM
ah yes I'm considering the jessops deal too as It saves having to get it from the net, and as you said if i wait until january sales when my birthday is, i may be able to get it a bit cheaper. Soon afterwards ill save up for the 18-200 lens adapter. Although i think the 18-55 will do me pretty good for the time being. I plan to start spending all my money on my 350D once its mine heh.
Lol, my bday is in January too. Jacobs is generally either cheaper than Jessops, or they have some type of special offer on, so keep your eye on them as well. I'm not sure what lens I'll go after but I'm thinking along the lines of 75-300 for track shots, or a good macro lens. Too early to make up my mint right now. But yeah, once I have it all my money is going into the camera too. ;)

Cotterik
11-25-2005, 07:41 PM
Lol, my bday is in January too. Jacobs is generally either cheaper than Jessops, or they have some type of special offer on, so keep your eye on them as well. I'm not sure what lens I'll go after but I'm thinking along the lines of 75-300 for track shots, or a good macro lens. Too early to make up my mint right now. But yeah, once I have it all my money is going into the camera too. ;)

Hey, I'm 17 days older than you :p How ironic it is that we currently both own the same camera, are the same age, and are looking to buy the exact same camera once again at the exact same time :rolleyes: good luck to us both then! be sure to tell me how it goes.

Pinin
11-28-2005, 10:14 AM
Heh, pretty weird that. :) I had go with a few cameras today.. the 350D is a very nice camera, but I liked the 20D more. Shame abbout the price difference. :rolleyes: If I can somehow scrape the money for that together I'll get it though.

Cotterik
11-28-2005, 10:18 AM
yeah i was thinking the same thing but it depends how long you wanna wait n save up i guess.

RacingManiac
11-28-2005, 10:19 AM
don't just look at Canon...Nikon, Olympus and Konica Minolta all have excellent DSLR in that range.....

Pinin
11-28-2005, 10:59 AM
yeah i was thinking the same thing but it depends how long you wanna wait n save up i guess.
I think the 20D is worth the extra money. I'll see, if it means waiting an extra month or so I might just go for it.


don't just look at Canon...Nikon, Olympus and Konica Minolta all have excellent DSLR in that range.....
I had a go with a D50 but I didn't really like the feel of the camera. And the guy I spoke to said the only reason he would go for it is if he wanted to save money. And I'm Canon biased. :rolleyes: :p

RacingManiac
11-28-2005, 11:06 AM
Meh, IMO the only reason to be biased is if you have already some lenses that'll work on the camera, and you can save money that way. But for someone starting from scratch as I was, I'd just pick the one that I feel will do the most for me. The difference in this class is so small that whichever one will be excellent....provided that you get decent lens for them. And all kit-lens are usually crap compare to what you will endup buying....I bought my Minolta 5D 3 months ago and I've already got 3 other lenses now that I stopped using my kit-lens...(and from what I've heard 350D's kit lens is worse)....

VtecMini
11-28-2005, 11:42 AM
Soon afterwards ill save up for the 18-200 lens adapter. Although i think the 18-55 will do me pretty good for the time being

Why double up? Why not apply a little logic, broaden your perspective (Or narrow it, as the case may be :)) and get the 75-300? You'll quickly appreciate the extra length just as much as you'll appreciate just how wide 18mm is (Until you try an 18mm on a film SLR or a 1:1 DSLR).

And just 'lens' is fine. Nobody's impressed with the redundant 'adaptor'. Just a heads up. :)

Pinin
11-28-2005, 11:48 AM
Well I tried four cameras today. I didn't like the D50 at all, it felt weird and I wasn't comfortable with it. The other one (forgot name), wasn't very good either. I didn't like the position of the controls on it. The 350D was very good but it is a little light, though that's not a big problem for me. So that leaves the 20D, the weight, feel and size of it were perfect. It has some better features than the 350D which I liked too. The lens kit isn't great but I could still use it and get some good photos while I save up for a better lens. It isn't THAT bad..

I asked about a 200mm lens too, the guy found me one for &#163;3000. :eek:

RacingManiac
11-28-2005, 12:08 PM
EF series L lens eh....f2?

Its probably white too....

Any factory lens thats white(Minolta/Nikon) or cream white(Canon) is gonna cost pretty penny...

Pinin
11-28-2005, 12:30 PM
No idea, he mentioned it was a Prima lens, or something. Are the white ones worth the money they cost?

<AAA-MOD>
11-28-2005, 01:15 PM
a few insignificant remarks from my experience:

honestly i was biased with Canon seeing as Wouter was already using Canon, but he's proven to us all that it gives great results. I've only popped a couple shots with other brands, so i can't truely compare on brands. one item of advice that i've learned and will pass on is the importance of lens quality. the Canon USM 70-200 F2.8 L lens i just started using is a very powerful lens and can be compared several ways with others. the brand will make a difference in outcome as well as price but there's also apertures to consider. i could get the 70-200 F4 for half the price of this F2.8, but those few F-stops make a huge difference.

I was originally considering to buy a Rebel and start building up my lens collection, since they seemed more expensive than the bodies, and i knew i could use the lenses on a 20D or even the new 5D now. then my brother-in-law (who's a pro-photographer) bought a 20D to have in his bag for mobile stuff, and after a few weeks decided it wasn't enough for him. that then presented a great opportunity to buy it from him. so that's what brought me to own a 20D with 17-85mm IS lens, and added the 200mm recently.

so hey, buy a Rebel, and some good lenses, then upgrade the body later.

<AAA-MOD>
11-28-2005, 01:27 PM
EF series L lens eh....f2?

Its probably white too....

Any factory lens thats white(Minolta/Nikon) or cream white(Canon) is gonna cost pretty penny...

the 20D also supports IS (image stabilization,) so when looking at long lenses some will be with or without IS. I suspect the 200mm lens he quoted was a F2.8 with IS.

RacingManiac
11-28-2005, 01:31 PM
I am weighing my option to see if I want to get my first "white" lens in the next 12 month. I am looking to buy a Minolta 300mm f4 APO lens and the price comparatively is decent at ~ $1000 USD. This will be my primary outdoor lens for shooting racing stuff, with the crop factor it'll give me about 450mm reach, compare to my current 305mm from my 210mm lens. One thing I like about the APS-C sized DSLR is the extra reach as I do very little wide angle stuff. If I can find $2000 laying around somewhere I'd want to get the 70-200mm f2.8 lens, which is Minolta' equivelent to the Canon you've mentioned....as the 2 main KM DSLR came with Image Stablization built-in, I don't need to spend the extra for a IS lens...which is a plus I guess...it is quite useful in low light...

Canon certainly has its perks, as you are more likely to find someone who you can go and borrow your lens from...

Cotterik
11-28-2005, 01:32 PM
I too have decided to upgrade my plans to purchase a canon 350D to a 20D also. For sheer build and to aid my plunge into the world of semi-professional photography i Feel its always better to go for the camera you would realy want. Plus, for anyone looking at buying one. Canon are giving £100 cashback on anyone who buys one before the 31st January 2006. There the deal with the body + the 18-55 lens would only be £800. Quite a bargain i think. That is, if i dont purchase it second hand off my dads friend.

RacingManiac
11-28-2005, 01:35 PM
BTW 20D is a camera that would've been high up on my list if I had the money....but I certainly don't regret getting the Minolta at the end. Rebel XT really turned me off with the built and the lack of heft...

VtecMini
11-28-2005, 01:36 PM
No idea, he mentioned it was a Prima lens, or something. Are the white ones worth the money they cost?That would be a prime lens. That just means it's not a zoom lens. I'm not sure where the prime bit comes from. I'd have thought that 'fixed length' or something similar would be a bit more obvious.

I have a friend that has the Nikon equivalent that Canon lens AAA-mod mentioned, the 80-200 F2.8, he lets me borrow it from time to time, it's a stunning bit of kit. Just a bit too heavy for using for long periods of time! :(

Pinin
11-28-2005, 01:45 PM
Canon are giving &#163;100 cashback on anyone who buys one before the 31st January 2006. There the deal with the body + the 18-55 lens would only be &#163;800. Quite a bargain i think. That is, if i dont purchase it second hand off my dads friend.
31st January? I was sure that offer ended on the 31st of December this year, are you sure?


That would be a prime lens. That just means it's not a zoom lens. I'm not sure where the prime bit comes from. I'd have thought that 'fixed length' or something similar would be a bit more obvious.

I have a friend that has the Nikon equivalent that Canon lens AAA-mod mentioned, the 80-200 F2.8, he lets me borrow it from time to time, it's a stunning bit of kit. Just a bit too heavy for using for long periods of time! :(
Ah, right. I just pretended to know what he was talking about when he said it. Now I know..

Cotterik
11-28-2005, 01:47 PM
31st January? I was sure that offer ended on the 31st of December this year, are you sure?

check for yourself :rolleyes:

http://canoneos20dpromotion.onlinerebates.com

Pinin
11-28-2005, 01:51 PM
check for yourself :rolleyes:

http://canoneos20dpromotion.onlinerebates.com
Ok now I'm confused. This says December, and the guy at Jessops today said December too. Same with the Jacobs website.

http://www.jessops.com/search/viewproduct.cfm?PRODUCT=CANEOS20D1855&BRAND=&CONTINUE=false&FEATS=&FIRSTPRICE=&KEYWORD=&LEVEL=&MODELNUMBER=&NEWQUERY=True&NODE=0&NODE_PATH=0&ORD=ASC&ORDERBY=&QUANTITY=10&RECENT=0&REFINE=&SEARCH_FOR=20d&SEARCHNODE=0&SEARCHURL=dointellisearch.cfm&SECONDPRICE=&SHOWCASEID=&STARTROW=1&SUBS=&WORD_SEARCH=Y&

Cotterik
11-28-2005, 02:38 PM
who you gonna listen to canon themselves or a 2nd party?

Pinin
11-28-2005, 02:58 PM
Yeah, good point.

Lani Kai
11-29-2005, 01:51 AM
Sigh, I want a 70-200mm f/4L or a 200mm f/2.8L for my 20D...

<AAA-MOD>
11-29-2005, 08:12 AM
Sigh, I want a 70-200mm f/4L or a 200mm f/2.8L for my 20D...

i can only say, save up for the 2.8.