Best sounding car?

[NAZCA C2]

What is the best sounding car that you have ever heard? I would have to say the Panoz LMP race car. The Panoz is the loudest thing on earth!

[Quiggs]

Either a 2003 Corvette Lingenfelter Stage 4, or a 1967 Corvette 427. Both the same day, last year at Corvettes at Carlisle. The 67 could be heard across the fairgrounds, which are probably a half to 3/4 mile wide...

[EvilPaladin]

I love the sound of the Ferrari F355.

[Matra et Alpine]

Matra 670.

3litres of V12 screaming and SCREAMING !! In Le Mans and F1

Closest anyone can get now is when it's taken out for demonstrations.
But they don't red-line these - shame :_

Still can be enjoyed at www.bad-boy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sounds/1971 Matra V12.wav

[Suka]

Metro 6R4, although my Libra sounds nice at high revs.

Useless fact of the day: An Alfa Romeo engine when at high revs sounds much unlike a Ferrari when it screams.

[Ferrari Tifosi]

360 Challenge Stradale. Just a great sounding engine inside that machine.

[Rijoh]

Not to long ago I heard a Vanquish starting and driving away from very close. It was such an AWESOME sound.... :eek:

[360_challenge]

360 Challenge Stradale. Just a great sounding engine inside that machine.

'nuff said, that is the best way to sum it up.
Good on you :D

[NAZCA C2]

I love the sound of the Ferrari F355.

the 355 is a great sounding car, almost sounds like a toyota atlantic race car.

[sandwich]

20B three rotor....whEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[MyRx7]

a 575m/550 maranello is the best imo
btw i heard the 360 CS has a very loud engine..

[Batmobile_Turbo]

Matra 670.

3litres of V12 screaming and SCREAMING !! In Le Mans and F1

Closest anyone can get now is when it's taken out for demonstrations.
But they don't red-line these - shame :_

Still can be enjoyed at www.bad-boy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sounds/1971 Matra V12.wav
i like that matra engine a lot, it sounds so pure.
i also like the weird engines like the AC Propulsion Tzero which has an electric engine and it sound neat when it accelerates hard, and i also love the sound of the RX-7s.
here is a link to Egg Nogs "silent assassin" thread: links on thread (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1925)

[Ferrari F50]

Definitely the F50. And if the cats and mufflers are removed- ohh baby. You'll think theres an F1 car behind you :D

[Egg Nog]

i like that matra engine a lot, it sounds so pure.
i also like the weird engines like the AC Propulsion Tzero which has an electric engine and it sound neat when it accelerates hard, and i also love the sound of the RX-7s.
here is a link to Egg Nogs "silent assassin" thread: links on thread (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1925)

Hate to be rude, but it's an electric "motor" ;)

No such thing as an electric engine. An engine is defined as a device for changing fuel energy into mechanical energy.

Thanks for the link. :)

[fpv_gtho]

my favourite would have to be the BOSS 5.4L Ford V8 used in the XR8 and GT......

www.ford.com.au/falcon/mainFlash/

theres a link off that where you can here the sound of the XR8 engine revving through the revrange, but it isnt always there as it goes through a cycle

[fpv_gtho]

if that link doesnt work just go to www.ford.com.au and follow the links to the falcon down the bottom

[drunken monkey]

hmm, personally, i've always been fond of the noise aston martins make.
the vanquish sounds good but that's just a trick exhaust.
anyone heard the thrum/throb of an amv8 lagonda?
lovely, deep and bassy.

[DasModell]

Ferrari F1 V12 .. starting with the one on the 312F1 from 1966 'till the 412 ones .. :)

for regular cars .. aka .. normal cars .. not supercars .. modified .. racing ... it's the Alfa Romeo V6 engines

[cls12vg30]

Anything with a Mopar Street Hemi

[Ferrari Tifosi]

Matra 670.

3litres of V12 screaming and SCREAMING !! In Le Mans and F1

Closest anyone can get now is when it's taken out for demonstrations.
But they don't red-line these - shame :_

Still can be enjoyed at www.bad-boy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sounds/1971 Matra V12.wav

Awesome sounding engine, thanks for posting the link. I don't know much about Matra's, but you're talk of them sparks interest in learning more of them. Do you know of any published literature about Matra's?

[Spastik_Roach]

The only real decent cars you ever hear in New Zealand are just Falcon XR8's and Commodore SS's, unless you live in Auckland or Wellington. Personally, I love the sound of the old Windsor v8 they used to have in the Falcons, although I've heard an old Pontiac Trans Am start up and that is an incredible sound. Also a person I know has a very old (1970's era) Ford Capri with a V8. It happens to pick someone up from my school and you can hear waay before you can see it which is quite funny..

[fpv_gtho]

ive heard AU windsors (my dad owns one) XR6T's and BAXR8's and can safely say the BA 8 sound the best. the BOSS engine retains the bellowing at idle the windsor has but doesnt get raspy higher in the rev range like the buick V6 in the commodore does.....

[Matra et Alpine]

Awesome sounding engine, thanks for posting the link. I don't know much about Matra's, but you're talk of them sparks interest in learning more of them. Do you know of any published literature about Matra's?
There are a few books, but most are in French :)
http://www.editions-palmier.fr/Librairie/Tri-par-marques/Marques-francaises/Matra/Matra-pages/matra-course.htm

There is a lot of on-line info too.
Here are a couple of good sites to start with....
http://www.matrasport.dk/ - find my car in here, Lennart and I collaborated in getting the first Matra picture site on-line.
http://www.carjoy.nl - Dutch dealer, click on history.
And if you want to spend hours browing, this is the most complete Matra links list ....
http://www.euronet.nl/~wilaben/

[Ferrari Tifosi]

There are a few books, but most are in French :)
http://www.editions-palmier.fr/Librairie/Tri-par-marques/Marques-francaises/Matra/Matra-pages/matra-course.htm

There is a lot of on-line info too.
Here are a couple of good sites to start with....
http://www.matrasport.dk/ - find my car in here, Lennart and I collaborated in getting the first Matra picture site on-line.
http://www.carjoy.nl - Dutch dealer, click on history.
And if you want to spend hours browing, this is the most complete Matra links list ....
http://www.euronet.nl/~wilaben/

Thank you

[Spastik_Roach]

I haven't had a chance to hear the Boss engine in the BA XR8 yet, but i'm looking forward to it. I've just remembered I once heard a BMW M-Roadster engine and that sounded incredibly loud and sexy.

[RS6]

For an excellent noise, find yourself an Austin-Healey 3000 and don't change gear until you go past 5000 rpm. Now that is one entoxicating experience.

[Fleet 500]

Anything with a Mopar Street Hemi

My choice, too. Any '66-'71 Mopar Hemi... especially with open headers!

[jcp123]

Again, Chevy V8's. As much as I love my Fords, Chevy's totally own the crap out of Ford on the exhaust note competition. Haven't heard enough Mopars to compare, so who knows I may end up liking those even more.

[Blue Supra]

Can't beat an HJ Monaro with Twin 3" pipes:)

[Turbonutter55]

TVR Tuscan :cool: :cool: :cool:

[quattro_20v]

I guess I havent heard the best sound yet, but an inline 5 (audi one) sounds amazingly cool. Raw and sporty sound. It's one of the main reasons I dont want to lose my car

[Idontknow]

Maserati GranTurismo is definitely the best sounding car in the world!:D

[pimento]

That's a fairly definitive statement from such a username.

[Magnum9987]

Their are too many that would qualify :( Heres a few (yeah technically engines but, what ever)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNlv7UTq3MI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYP3oJ74Ti4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=-OpPOUmM3kI

[csl177]

^^^ Three very nice selections. A few more:

Ligier-Matra V12 (great look at how much Monza has changed, too!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAo8eF6GeOM&feature=related

Mazda 787B
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_kEeRaS3UM&feature=related

And because I'm partial to them, a Porsche 906
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbaZU38TBEE&feature=related

[Magnum9987]

^Those are some kickass choices as well. :D

[Ferrer]

I want to reivindicate a pair of cars from the maker that no one seems to care about any more.

First the classic. The loudest thing I've ever heard on a rally stage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFq3Qfvci4Q

Then the unexepcted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8kuyiTiLsc

[csl177]

The 1.3 Lancia is one of the sweetest engines ever built. Good choice. :cool:

[Ferrer]

It's the 1.6 apparently.

It's actually the car Munari used to win the 1972 Montecarlo Rally, apparently.

[Revo]

Perhaps these two are not the BEST sounds ever, but they certainly work for me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oztWVkj4BLw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzopmVPl4wE

[faksta]

Among those I've heard in real life I liked this one the most. At Le Mans even Corvettes blushed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxDQO1gvhN0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SmUHFBBULA

[NSXType-R]

This would work for me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebEMJy4cznQ

The 787B would have been my choice if it hadn't been posted already. Here's a bonus clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iLyHV4ZwFk

And one more from a Hybrid KERS NSX GT car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB2-L7hyGKo

[Dragoon119]

The Lexus LFA and Pagani Chinque are fighting to be number one in my book. But the LFA currently holds the top. IT broke glass with the pitch of its throttle alone.

[Kevin123]

Ferrari F355.

[scrapcar]

Not Ferrari fan but sat next to Spider yesterday in traffic and it sounded good.

[jcp123]

Ferrari 250 and 330-series V12 engines are super-sweet sounding. E46 M3's, Tadek Marek-designed Aston straight sixes, and the Maserati 3500 are also great. I also really enjoy the pounding of an American big block six. Aside from that, the old 200ci Ford flathead fours (yes, the ones in model T's and B's) can be made to have a neat-o sound, and of course I love a Ford Flathead V8. Lastly, I think that most VW 4-cylinders are not bad sounding at all.

Oh, and I almost forgot. There's a video on YouTube of a guy running a supercharged Packard inline 8 in his hot rod. Great sounding car.

[Fleet 500]

Ferrari 250 and 330-series V12 engines are super-sweet sounding. E46 M3's, Tadek Marek-designed Aston straight sixes, and the Maserati 3500 are also great. I also really enjoy the pounding of an American big block six.
An American big-block six? Did you mean to say an American big-block V-8? I've never heard am American 6-cylinder that sounds as good as a Mopar 426-Hemi or 427 Ford or Chevy.

[jcp123]

Yeah, the big block sixes...Chevy 292 and Ford 300. GMC had a nice 302ci inliner in the 50s, nearly impossible to find now. Chrysler had some hemi-headed slant sixes in Australia too, IIRC in displacements up to 265ci. Horsepower hung around 1/ci as well on those, and the blokes down under have, of course, put out some further speed goodies for the Hemi /6's.

[henk4]

Ferrari 250 and 330-series V12 engines are super-sweet sounding.

nice that you mention those, we were at the Dix Mille Tours at Paul Ricard last weekend (report to come...) and there were some 250 SWBs, and one of them had that glorious engine note which was not spoiled by an open exhaust.

[jcp123]

nice that you mention those, we were at the Dix Mille Tours at Paul Ricard last weekend (report to come...) and there were some 250 SWBs, and one of them had that glorious engine note which was not spoiled by an open exhaust.

Just watched some more videos featuring the Colombo V12s. Definitely beautiful sounding motors. To my mind the automotive equivalent of an Omega Speedmaster. FAR better than anything the modern sportscar guys are putting out. And they were still 7k rpm motors.

[KevinnN]

The old Saab with a motor swap sounds like a pack of angry killer bees. Tadalista (https://www.rx247.net/cialis.html)

[csl177]

The old Saab with a motor swap sounds like a pack of angry killer bees.

Engine swap? From 1949 to 1967 Saab used 2 strokes, then switched to Ford V4s until the 99 began production. :confused:

Angry killer bees is a good description. :)

Saab 93 XP World record - YouTube

[Ferrer]

No entirely on-topic, but more or less related, I recently heard one of the modern Saab Turbo Xs with the V6 engine and it sounded angry. Never thought an executive saloon from a swedish car company known for the safety of their cars would sound this mean.

[Cyco]

That record 93 obviously doesn't have the original gearbox, he wouldn't have needed to blip for the down shift on the free wheeling one.

[Magnum9987]

Am I allowed to bring motorbikes in here, because it is really tempting....

[jcp123]

No entirely on-topic, but more or less related, I recently heard one of the modern Saab Turbo Xs with the V6 engine and it sounded angry. Never thought an executive saloon from a swedish car company known for the safety of their cars would sound this mean.

Now that you mention it, I found this vid of a Passat 2,8l with a B7 Audi S4 exhaust, and it sounded mean. Very classic 6-banger sound, reminded me a lot of the Tadek Marek sixes I mentioned earlier.

Passat 3bg 2.8 V6 4motion highline - S4 B7 Auspuff Sound - YouTube

I also like the sound of a Detroit Diesel 2-stroke...


As to the Ferrari 330s...here's a good vid. He teases you a bit at the beginning but talks too much. Skip to about 3:45 or so to catch the best bit.

Harrys Garage- Ferrari 330 GT 2+2- EVO Video Diary Pt. 2 - YouTube

[jcp123]

Last but not least...perhaps my favourite vid on YouTube... the aforementioned Ford rod running a 'charged Packard straight 8. He used to have a better vid but YouTube dicked with his account. The whine you hear is actually not the supercharger, but the straight-cut trans gears.

Packard inline 8 powered hot rod. - YouTube

[clutch-monkey]

No entirely on-topic, but more or less related, I recently heard one of the modern Saab Turbo Xs with the V6 engine and it sounded angry. Never thought an executive saloon from a swedish car company known for the safety of their cars would sound this mean.

is that the model with the gm V6?

[Ferrer]

is that the model with the gm V6?
Yes, it is.

[ErWin76]

here is nice sounding Ferrari 250 SWB.

Ferrari 250 SWB Tour Auto 2003 - YouTube

[NSXType-R]

Going back to Japanese cars...

Honda S800. I expected it to sound more like bees, but it's actually somewhat throaty.

HONDA S800 - YouTube

And the Honda McLaren MP4/5

McLaren HONDA MP4/5 Strip - YouTube

[Kitdy]

Two Japanese engined cars from NSX?! Whodda thunk it?

[f6fhellcat13]

Last but not least...perhaps my favourite vid on YouTube... the aforementioned Ford rod running a 'charged Packard straight 8. He used to have a better vid but YouTube dicked with his account. The whine you hear is actually not the supercharger, but the straight-cut trans gears.

Packard inline 8 powered hot rod. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9F5t7JLbY0)
Excellent choice! Staying on this theme, a beglasspacked Flathead is among my favorite noises.

Back to your video, though. I remember seeing this somewhere on the net a while back; it's good to see someone in the hotrod community doing something different. While the current low and ratty trend is much more visually appealing than the horrible dayglo Chip-Foose awfulness of the '90s, I feel like the scene is stagnating. It's becoming formulaic, and really, no one's impressed by a small block Chev in a deuce. Also, I don't like airbags (the suspension), which are becoming a lot more popular. If you want to customize a car, why do the exact same thing as everyone else? That said, I like flatties because they have period charm that most more-modern engines do not.

I think it'd have been cool if rather than switching to a V8 in '55, Packard had made an OHV inliner.

EDIT: Kitdy is just mad that his supposedly-quality German machine spits out head gaskets like sunflower seeds.

[jcp123]

here is nice sounding Ferrari 250 SWB.

Ferrari 250 SWB Tour Auto 2003 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEWgxCGQhoU)

Nice. Watched it the whole way through. He moves gears smoothly, and he had bawlz driving on that race in snow-laden area that he was.

[jcp123]

Excellent choice! Staying on this theme, a beglasspacked Flathead is among my favorite noises.

Back to your video, though. I remember seeing this somewhere on the net a while back; it's good to see someone in the hotrod community doing something different. While the current low and ratty trend is much more visually appealing than the horrible dayglo Chip-Foose awfulness of the '90s, I feel like the scene is stagnating. It's becoming formulaic, and really, no one's impressed by a small block Chev in a deuce. Also, I don't like airbags (the suspension), which are becoming a lot more popular. If you want to customize a car, why do the exact same thing as everyone else? That said, I like flatties because they have period charm that most more-modern engines do not.

I think it'd have been cool if rather than switching to a V8 in '55, Packard had made an OHV inliner.

EDIT: Kitdy is just mad that his supposedly-quality German machine spits out head gaskets like sunflower seeds.

I agree. One reason I love a good straight six or straight 8 in one. Even a Ford flattie 8, good as it sounds, is almost as run out as an SBC. I fantasize about one of the Aussie hemi Mopar sixes or a Ferrari Colombo v12 (a combo I have seen at Steve Moal's shop in California before) also for this reason. The old school rods should be a vessel for personalization, not another mainstream to join.

Hell, be a little bit original and at least run a y-block v8 or one of those great running Lincoln 430" units...unique would be one of the GM 215ci V8s they sold to Rover. Aw I could go all day on the subject. Many more motors and transmissions have bounced around in my head. But you already know what I mean.

[Magnum9987]

Guys, if you can imagine it, its been done before. Their is no "new" or unique idea in hot rodding. I've seen everything from lincoln v12s, a couple ferrari v12s (Hot Rod published one in the 60s!), rover v8s, sixes of all kinds, four bangers are so old they predate the title hot rod. I've yet to see a five banger in a rod. I've seen viper swaps. I have seen FWD hot rods which were basically an Olds Toronado front end. I've seen Rear engined rods with tornado front ends inverted. I could go on and on. the engines themselves are only one part of the customization. You could have some engine right out of butt**** nowhere in your rod, but what makes a rod truly unique is dozens upon dozens of customizations...

I'd like to make a twin engine FWD and RWD Bug based car sometime, just to see if I could....

[clutch-monkey]

I agree. One reason I love a good straight six or straight 8 in one. Even a Ford flattie 8, good as it sounds, is almost as run out as an SBC. I fantasize about one of the Aussie hemi Mopar sixes or a

i had an opportunity drive a chrysler centura with a 245 hemi six in it - what an unsuspecting rocket..

[kingofthering]

Now that we're done playing games, here's Colin McRae's 1993 Legacy:

Colin McRae Subaru Legacy RS - with pure engine sounds (Tour de Corse 1993) - YouTube

Start up:

555 SUBARU LEGACY RS Gr.A　BOXER　SOUND!! - YouTube

[jcp123]

Guys, if you can imagine it, its been done before. Their is no "new" or unique idea in hot rodding. I've seen everything from lincoln v12s, a couple ferrari v12s (Hot Rod published one in the 60s!), rover v8s, sixes of all kinds, four bangers are so old they predate the title hot rod. I've yet to see a five banger in a rod. I've seen viper swaps. I have seen FWD hot rods which were basically an Olds Toronado front end. I've seen Rear engined rods with tornado front ends inverted. I could go on and on. the engines themselves are only one part of the customization. You could have some engine right out of butt**** nowhere in your rod, but what makes a rod truly unique is dozens upon dozens of customizations...

I'd like to make a twin engine FWD and RWD Bug based car sometime, just to see if I could....

Truth.

[NSXType-R]

Two Japanese engined cars from NSX?! Whodda thunk it?

And they happen to be both Hondas!

What a coincidence?

Kingofthering, I've seen those videos before, but nice addition anyway!

[walters]

Porsche carrera GT

[Magnum9987]

no one said no, so I'm putting up some motorcycles
Board Track racers sound truly amazing!
Indian 1915 8 valve boardtrack film.wmv - YouTube
1928 German tuned Harley 8- valve on Dyno - YouTube

[f6fhellcat13]

I think it's generally considered to wise to strap into a dyno, especially with no front brake.

[Cyco]

The 1st video isn't on a dyno, just a roller/s so no resistance to make it want to drive forward.

[NSXType-R]

Since you went to motorcycles, all gloves are off. :D

Honda RC181 [1967] - TRACTIONS MOVIE 20 - YouTube

Any vehicle that requires an engine to start has got to be pretty awesome.

[f6fhellcat13]

Six cylinders is moar betterer.
Honda RC166 @ TwinLink Motegi , 11 July 2012 - YouTube

[Magnum9987]

Dammit, you guys win

[NSXType-R]

no one said no, so I'm putting up some motorcycles
Board Track racers sound truly amazing!

I just sort of got around to it, but that Indian looks really primitive! It even has pedals. Still sounds nice though. But the way the flames shoot out reminds me of that Brutus thing. I don't even think that Indian bike has a gearbox- the Indians I've seen all have a hand shift gear knob thing.

The Harley I didn't expect at all. Sounds real good.

The Brutus!

Experimentalfahrzeug BRUTUS - YouTube

[ErWin76]

Bentley Packard special

12 cylinder Bentley packard monster .mov - YouTube

[Magnum9987]

I just sort of got around to it, but that Indian looks really primitive! It even has pedals. Still sounds nice though. But the way the flames shoot out reminds me of that Brutus thing. I don't even think that Indian bike has a gearbox- the Indians I've seen all have a hand shift gear knob thing.

The Harley I didn't expect at all. Sounds real good.

The Brutus!

Experimentalfahrzeug BRUTUS - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pcRRk0msas)

Boardtrack racers were among the first racing bikes. They were simply the pacing bikes with the biggest v twins of the time. The racing was crazy. They had no brakes, you stopped by either killing the ignition or retarding it. The throttle was set for WOT at all times.

[Drones]

Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe
Shelby Daytona coupe Dyno - YouTube

[Schlappklotte]

Fiat 130 Coupe 1971 with the excellent 3200 DOHC Lampredi V6 engine:

Fiat 130 Coupé - YouTube

Fiat 2300S Coupe Abarth 1963 with Lampredi 2,3 litres inline 6 Hemi engine:

Fiat 2300 Abarth - YouTube

Free Driving Zolder FIAT 2300 S Coupé 1964, Skylimit Events 10-10-12 - YouTube

Abarth 2300 S Coupé beim spaßfahren - YouTube

Abarth 2300 S Coupè kann vor Kraft nicht laufen - YouTube

[Magnum9987]

I figured I'd kick start this thread again

Bugatti Type 35 B - Very loud start up!! 1 of 45 ever build!! 1080p HD - YouTube

[Magnum9987]

I'm watching videos of can am cars!
2012 Le Mans Classic - Porsche 917 - Grid 5 - Enjoy the sound of the Porsche Flat 12 ! - YouTube
Laguna Seca Mazda Raceway Monterery Historics Onboard Can-am McLaren Jim Pace - YouTube

[FikseGTS]

twin turbo gallardo is the best sounding car I've ever driven....

[henk4]

twin turbo gallardo is the best sounding car I've ever driven....

just out of interest, was/is the twin turbo spec a factory option?

[Kitdy]

just out of interest, was/is the twin turbo spec a factory option?

No. There was a famous one, I think an American company did it. It was white.

[5150]

Porsche 911 GT3

[TRD2014]

Supra
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[christiandraper]

well, razon is awesome as i have heard about it. but ferrari is also one of its kind in sound..
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[thanes1]

Macan by Far!

[ralphie]

While, as an owner, I love the sound of my Ford GT with it's Ford Racing Rear Exit Headers, I must confess that my first experiences in the 1950s listening to the various cars at the road races set two cars above all - and still do today.

For high pitch beauty, I still thrill to the Ferrari Colombo engine in the 250 Testa Rossa (circa 1957-1961).

And, for low frequency guttural levels (a la the Cobra 427), I would choose the Maserati 450S, powered by Alberto Bellentani and Guido Taddeucci's 4-cam 4.5 liter V8.

[jcp123]

Colombo V12s are also a go-to for me when I need some sonic sex. It's honestly pretty hard to top. But, I do like the flat rumble of a small block Chevy...an engine I'd never own just because it's so cliche. Flathead V8s are good too. And for an oddball choice...Detroit Diesel 2-stroke heavy duty engines.

[tberg]

Any large Ford V8 sounds good, but the 351 Cleveland pushing through headers and the short mufflers on a De Tomaso Pantera is still to this day one of the best, meanest sounding engines I've ever heard. Although I think an argument could be made for the Jaguar F-type R or SVR, truly incredible sound.