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McLareN
04-24-2006, 07:58 AM
Ferrari F 430 Challenge Stradale Spy Photos

100 kg lighter

Ferrari is preparing the launch of the super sports car F 430 Challenge Stradale at the Paris Motor Show coming fall. The car is set to rival Porsche’s upcoming GT3 RS, which is equally due for launch this year.

The Stradale is about 100 kg lighter than the standard F 430. While the latter is powered by a 4.3 litre V8 engine producing 490 HP, the light weight Stradale‘s performance is said to rate around 520 HP with the same engine.

The photos are showing a prototype during road testing in Maranello. The pictured test car still has some tape at the front end for disguise. At the rear end clearly visible, the exhaust pipes are located further up in the middle and not on the side like in the F 430

henk4
04-24-2006, 08:00 AM
surprised to see the 4.3 litre engine in there, as the current GT2 cars run 4 litres, which seem to be better harmonising with the restrictor rules...

RazaBlade
04-24-2006, 08:09 AM
Seems once again the Ferrari will have the GT3 RS beat in the power ratings :(

Hopefully the Porsche will be lighter and more agile.

This is turning into the Evo vs Scooby battle, but with supercars instead!!!

Ferrer
04-24-2006, 08:12 AM
surprised to see the 4.3 litre engine in there, as the current GT2 cars run 4 litres, which seem to be better harmonising with the restrictor rules...
Well despite the name implying otherwise the car has nothing to do with the GT2 cars, plus I think that the special 4-litre engine found in the race cars must quite expensive to retune and produce it for road going car.

henk4
04-24-2006, 08:14 AM
Well despite the name implying otherwise the car has nothing to do with the GT2 cars, plus I think that the special 4-litre engine found in the race cars must quite expensive to retune and produce it for road going car.

unless they need it as a homologation special, one of the reason why we get to see all those various Porsche models

Ferrer
04-24-2006, 08:19 AM
unless they need it as a homologation special, one of the reason why we get to see all those various Porsche models
Yes but somewhat the car is already racing so I'm assuming that actually a new car isn't required to homolagte the new special engine. I suppose that within a limit you can modify the engine, maybe that also includes the cubic capacity of the engine.

About the Porsche I suppose that it would make no difference if the racing car was based on the GT3 or the GT3RS, I see the GT3RS more as a marketing gimmick than anything else, though admiteddly an exciting one.

6'bore
04-24-2006, 08:57 AM
Hopefully there will be some more changes to the outside of this car...

Will be dissapointed if the only notable change is the wheels...

man 430gt
04-24-2006, 09:00 AM
Can't wait for the sound!

P3RG4R3C
04-24-2006, 09:03 AM
Hopefully there will be some more changes to the outside of this car...

Will be dissapointed if the only notable change is the wheels...

And the exhaust.

RazaBlade
04-24-2006, 09:08 AM
They need to put the carbon-fibre wing mirrors on too... looked class in the old CS

BMW325
04-24-2006, 09:21 AM
still not a fan of the F430s styling...
the 360 looks far better...much cleaner lines/shapes
although the rims on this one look amazing

id take the suspension and engine from this thing and put them on a standard 360 Modena
that would be amazing

FerrariPrinze1
04-24-2006, 09:37 AM
Seeen them already.rear bumper and tailights are crazy lookin

Dino Scuderia
04-24-2006, 10:04 AM
To call it a 430 CS is a bit confusing because obviously the car pictured is much more race worthy than a 360 CS.

The pictured car is a 430 Challenge, not a Challenge Stradale which would imply street version. IMO.

Piacki_117
04-24-2006, 11:10 AM
The Stradale is about 100 kg lighter than the standard F 430.
:eek: Awesome!!



Seems once again the Ferrari will have the GT3 RS beat in the power ratings

Wait for the 997 GT2...

RazaBlade
04-24-2006, 11:30 AM
But thats a turbo engine.... these two are pitted against each other because they are supposed to have the same spec, high tuned NA engine, light-weight body

Ferrer
04-24-2006, 12:03 PM
But thats a turbo engine.... these two are pitted against each other because they are supposed to have the same spec, high tuned NA engine, light-weight body
Yes but now the Ferrari has a 700cc advantage over the Porsche.

RazaBlade
04-24-2006, 12:12 PM
Or 500cc.... the RS could use a 3.8 vs the ordinary GT3 3.6.... but its all speculation at the moment

And I agree that the Ferrari does use a bigger engine, so heres hoping that Porsche pull back the deficit by making their car even lighter....

Ferrer
04-24-2006, 12:37 PM
Or 500cc.... the RS could use a 3.8 vs the ordinary GT3 3.6.... but its all speculation at the moment

And I agree that the Ferrari does use a bigger engine, so heres hoping that Porsche pull back the deficit by making their car even lighter....
Yup but 500cc is still a lot when you are talking of specific outputs in the region of 120bhp/litre. That would mean a 60bhp deficit for the Porsche. And about the Porsche being lighter I think it will a tough job for them, since the F430 is built in aluminium and the Porsche has a conventional steel monocque, if I'm not mistaken.

MrKipling
04-24-2006, 02:51 PM
I must confess to being a little confused by the pics... It does look like the race version with a number plate sellotaped to the back, but Ferrari can be quite devious when it comes to disguising cars (step forward 348/355 Enzo prototype) - God knows what's underneath the skin. Although there does seem to be an air jack lurking under the back there.

I have my fingers crossed though - alongside the F40, the 360CS is still my all time fave Ferrari. Although, ironically, the only modern production Ferrari I haven't driven. The 360CS is the closest they've got to that car.

EDIT: I think that capacity regs vary according to the engine configuration in GT racing.

Giankrlo99
04-24-2006, 03:12 PM
another pic:D

F1_Master
04-24-2006, 03:13 PM
Shows those Ferrari folks on another board who said the CS wouldn't come til' the F430's final year.

I like it! I wonder if that same paintjob offered on the 360CS will be available.

Zytek_Fan
04-24-2006, 03:57 PM
I would rather have mine more like an F430 GTC :D

carsnut
04-24-2006, 07:31 PM
kinda looks like a street version of the F430 Challenge but it's gonna be interesting once it's released. Porsche got a long way to go if they want to be competitive with a GT3RS since Ferrari F430 can already outrun a GT3

MrKipling
04-26-2006, 05:52 AM
I want one already - that yellow pic is much more convincing.

TINUZ
04-26-2006, 08:25 AM
I´ve got a magazine called GTO and there is a big article in it about the F430 Challenge i must say these pictures look exactly like those in the magazine. There is hardly any difference.

Look also at the pictures on ultimatecarpage
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/2446-5.jpg

lightweight
10-26-2006, 12:11 AM
Update with new pics

EL Nino
10-26-2006, 07:48 AM
Nice car. F430 is the best V8 Ferrari car ever. And the Ferrari FXX is the best V12 Ferrari car.

Kooper
10-26-2006, 05:09 PM
Will we be seeing the white (and green?) stripe down the middle as well I wonder?

Black Horse
11-02-2006, 05:40 AM
Will we be seeing the white (and green?) stripe down the middle as well I wonder?

I hope it has one... I wouldn't be a "CS" without the stripe.

CCV10M
03-28-2007, 03:01 AM
I cant wait for It But the car needs to be Different from the Gallardo superleggerra

Wouter Melissen
03-28-2007, 03:19 AM
I cant wait for It But the car needs to be Different from the Gallardo superleggerra

I doubt it will have four wheel drive and/or a V10 engine.

CCV10M
03-28-2007, 05:22 AM
Yeah i was talking to the wall on my last post.
soz everyone

IWantAnAudiRS6
03-28-2007, 05:47 AM
Don't forget- the 360CS was before the Superleggera too!

Ferrer
03-28-2007, 05:48 AM
Don't forget- the 360CS was before the Superleggera too!
And the 250 GTO before all of them... :p

IWantAnAudiRS6
03-28-2007, 06:21 AM
Yeah, well, shut up... :p

Pando
03-29-2007, 11:53 AM
And the 250 GTO before all of them... :p
And the 125 S before that, see I can play your game too. :)

Ferrer
03-29-2007, 12:01 PM
And the 125 S before that, see I can play your game too. :)
8C 2900B Le Mans Speciale? ;)

But the 125 S, wasn't an homolgation special, was it?

SPHFerrari
03-29-2007, 12:14 PM
the first one posted is a regular challenge. second red one, from left lane news, does appear to be a CS mule.

these were posted by the photographer on fchat. does appear to be a CS, note the 5 bolt pattern.

Pando
03-29-2007, 01:47 PM
8C 2900B Le Mans Speciale? ;)

But the 125 S, wasn't an homolgation special, was it?
I thought we were just trying to mention cars older than in the post above. ;)