Trip to Carland central (Munich Summer 2003)

[Ferrer]

The Borgward Isabella Coupe thread has made me browse through my collection of CD's of trpis that I made abroad, and I just found this. I thought I'd share with you some picture, hope you enjoy them.

Excuse the quality of some of the pics.

Cars:
-Triumph TR4
-DKW Front
-BMW 328 Coupe (I don't know what this special version is called)
-same as before
-Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL 6.3
-Benz of some sort

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #2

Cars:
-Mercedes-Benz 540K Cabriolet (Ithink)
-Mercedes-Benz 770K (if I remeber right, it was a royal official car)
-Mercedes-Benz W163 (I think it reads on that thing on the right)
-Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Gullwing (the one which won the 1952 Carrera Panamericana)
-same as before
-Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Gullwing (road-going version)

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #3

Cars:
-Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Roadster
-Mercedes-Benz 280 SE 3.5 Cabriolet
-Mercedes-Benz 280 SL Pagoda
-same as before
-Sauber-Mercedes C9 (?)
-Mercedes-Benz 300 SLR (Le Mans '55, were they used those air brakes)

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #4

Cars:
-Mercedes-Benz W196 (special streamlined version)
-Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5-16 (I think it's the car used on the race at the Nurburgring in the late 80's)
-Mercedes-Benz 450 SLC (diorama of rallying Mercedes')
-Mercedes-Benz 300 SE (same as before, Montecarlo Rally winner 1960)
-same as in pic 2
-Mercedes-Benz C111/III

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #5

Cars:
-same as in last pic, previous post
-Mercedes-Benz record car (the speed wars in the late 30's)
-Porsche 356 Cabriolet Polizei
-Porsche 356 Roadster America
-Porsche 944 (I'm assuming it achieved some sort of important record)
-McLaren MP4/2 TAG Porsche Turbo

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #6

Cars:
-March (?) Porsche Indy Car racer
-Porsche 959
-Porsche 911 SC Dakar racer (winner in 1984)
-Porsche 917/20
-Porsche 917K (This is the 1971 Le Mans winner, isn't it?)
-Porsche 911 Speedster

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #7

Cars:
-Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet
-Porsche 911 (the original)
-Porsche 962 C
-Porsche 911 GT1 (1998 Le Mans winner)
-Cisitalia racer
-Sascha (?)

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #8

Cars:
-Porsche Group B study (what eventually became the 959)
-sectioned Porsche 911 Carrera 4 Coupé
-same as before
-BMW M1 Procar (this particular car was used by Carlos Reutemann)
-BMW 320 Group 5
-March-BMW Formula 3 racer

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #9

Cars:
-BMW 2002 touring car racer
-BMW 303
-BMW Isetta
-BMW 507
-BMW design study
-same as before

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #10

Cars:
-BMW Just 4/2
-Glas 1600 GT Coupé
-same as before
-WWII Audi
-same as before
-Audi (Auto Union) of some sort

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #11

Cars:
-Horch (?)
-I have absolutely no clue
-DKW 3=6 (?)
-Auto Union something or other
-NSU Ro80 concept car (I think by Pininfarina)
-Audi Quattro concept car (can't remeber it's name, but it is by Pininfarina)

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #12

Cars:
-Prototype for the Audi 200, I think
-Special aerodinamic study on an Audi 80
-Stillborn Audi Quattro Group S rally car
-Audi V8 Avant (200 Avant?)
-Audi Spyder Quattro
-Audi Avus Quattro

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #13

Cars:
-Original Audi R8 prototype
-Audi Rosemeyer (?) concept
-some sort of very old car that has relation with Audi
-Auto Union (?)
-DKW 3=6 (?)
-Auto Union (?)

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #14

-NSU Ro80 concept car (Pininfarina?)
-Audi Quattro concept car (Pininfarina)
-Horch (don't know the exact model)
-Audi (again)
-Wanderer (and again)
-Auto Union Type C (?)

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #15

Cars
-Auto Union racer (the rival to the Benz car for the speed wars of the 30's)
-DKW (?)
-I've got no idea
-again...
-Horch something else (?)
-Horch 830BL Sedan-Cabriolet (thanks, drakkie ;) )

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #16

Cars:
-special Horch 853, probably (by drakkie)
-Wanderer W25 K (by drakkie)
-same as before
-same as before
-Auto Union Monza
-same as before

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #17

Cars:
-NSU TTS racer
-same as before
-Audi Quattro rally car
-same as before
-Audi V8 DTM racer (winner in '91, I think)
-DKW Internationales Schnell-Laster-Treffen (by drakkie)

[costaszzr1100]

help us with some model names please !!!!!!!!

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #18

Cars:
-DKW 3=6
-DKW 3=6 Convertible
-DKW 3=6
-Auto Union 1000 (?)
-Auto Union 1000 SP Cabriolet
-same as before

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #19

Cars:
-NSU Ro80
-same as before
-DKW F102 (by drakkie)
-Audi 100 (original, the car that saved Audi)
-Audi 50
-same as before

[Ferrer]

Munich 2003 #20

Cars:
-Audi ur-Quattro
-Audi 100 (Mk II?)
-Audi 100 (Mk III?)
-unpainted original Audi A8 (to show the alumium body)
-DKW Front

[Ferrer]

Muncih 2003 #21

Cars:
-Early DKW F8 of some sort (by drakkie)
-DKW Schwebeklasse Cabriolet (by drakkie)
-again, a DKW?
-that's a DKW, the badge says it clearly
-I've got absolutely no idea, though it's Audi related
-DKW F8 Front-Luxus Cabriolet (by drakkie)

[Ferrer]

help us with some model names please !!!!!!!!
I can try but I don't remember/know all of them.

[drakkie]

I can try but I don't remember/know all of them.

im sue other members will give it a try then too :)

[Ferrer]

im sue other members will give it a try then too :)
Help is always appreciated. ;)

[PerfAdv]

Great pics with some nice classics. :)

[drakkie]

Help is always appreciated. ;)

i'll dive into the audi press archive to find some confirmations...

[drakkie]

#15 last car is a Horch 830 BL Sedan-Cabriolet
#21 - 5th car is a DKW F8 with an to me unclear bodyshape
-last car is a DKW F8 Front-Luxus Cabriolet

[Ferrer]

#15 last car is a Horch 830 BL Sedan-Cabriolet
#21 last car is a DKW F8 Front-Luxus Cabriolet
Obviously after nearly 3 years I wans't able to retain those names...:p

[drakkie]

Obviously after nearly 3 years I wans't able to retain those names...:p

Thanks to the utstanding Audi press archive i can find those names :)

#17 last picture:
DKW Internationales Schnell-Laster-Treffen no idea of the translation, im sry...

[drakkie]

#21:first car somewhat esembling the DKW F89 Meisterklasse Cabriolet.. not exactly though, see attached picture.Probably the same era(1950-1953) though, google it..
#21: 2nd car DKW Schwebeklasse (Cabriolet ?). attached picture is Limousine.

[250 GTO]

Great pics Ferrer!

[drakkie]

#19 3rd car DKW F102
#18 5th car is Auto Union 1000Sp cabriolet
#16 first might be a special Horch 853
#16 2nd is a Wanderer W 25 K

[Piacki_117]

Nice pics.

Do you have more of the grey 959?

[Ferrer]

Nice pics.

Do you have more of the grey 959?
Nope, I'm sorry...:o

[henk4]

Hi there, never saw this thread before, but I have some answers to mystery cars.

Post 11:
1. is a Wanderer W25
2. is likely an Opel Admiral
3. DKW 3=6, but this is actually an IFA , built in East Germany, after the war
4. DKW Monza (a very rare one)

Post 13.:

5. Is that IFA again
6. Zwickau P70, the Auto Union link is because it comes from the factory that ones produced the Horch.

Edit: I have to start correcting myself. The Opel Admiral must be something else, seeing all pics are from the Auto Union museum, so my best guess is that is also a Wanderer. #4 is not the Monza, but the Zwickau P70, it has the same license plate as the one in post 13...

[netburner]

#17 last picture:
DKW Internationales Schnell-Laster-Treffen no idea of the translation, im sry...

The translation would be "DKW international meeting of Schnell-Laster", because the car itself is known as the "DKW Schnell-Laster" and there was an international meeting of the remaining cars last year around Ingolstadt.

Also most of the pics in here aren't from Munich itself. The Mercedes pictures are from the old Mercedes Museum in Stuttgart (which isn't there anymore), the Porsche-pictures are from their old museum in Stuttgart, which will go into a new building at the end of this year or so and the Audi/DKW/Auto Union pictures are from the "Audi Mobile" in Ingolstadt.

If you (or some other) will come again to Germany, You should visit the northern part also, as there are the "AutoStadt" from Volkswagen and the Volkswagen museum next to it and both "Meilenwerk" halls in Berlin and Dusseldorf (both not really a museum, but halls where private owners can park their oldtimers or exotics and around some dealers of rare and/or old cars and some garages which are specialised in oldtimers).

Write a pm to me, maybe I have some time to guide you ;)