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acfsambo
07-09-2006, 12:19 AM
Can u guy (and girls) help me.What are the top 5 fastest production cars in the world.
I think it goes

1. Bugatti Veyron 405km/h
2. Koenigsegg CCX 395km/h
3. Koenigsegg CCR 390km/h
4. ?
5. ?

I think the Saleen S& is in there somewhere and im not sure bout the McLaren F1

aiasib
07-09-2006, 12:38 AM
there is that chevrolet callaway sledgehammer, but its kinda old and I'm not sure if its really production, have a google and decide for yourself

aiasib
07-09-2006, 12:58 AM
Here is a more complete list, if you ask me, its not up to date, but the figures are enough for you to make you own conclusions and calculations:, also they're not all production, btw

Top 20 Supercars listed by top speed

1. 255 mph: 2005 Hennessey SRT-10 Viper Venom 1000 Coupe
2. 254.7 mph: 1988 Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette
3. 253 mph: 2006 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron
4. 251.4 mph: 1994 Dauer 962 LeMans
5. 250.4 mph: 2001 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron Concept
6. 250.0 mph: 1992 Vector WX3 Concept
7. 249.0 mph: 2004 SSC Aero
8. 248.5 mph: 2004 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Concept
9. 248.5 mph: 2001 Lotec Sirius Concept
10. 245 mph: 2006 Koenigsegg CCX
11. 241.1 mph: 2004 Koenigsegg CCR
12. 240.1 mph: 1994 McLaren F1
13. 240.0 mph: 2002 Koenigsegg CC 8S
14. 240.0 mph: 2000 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
15. 239.2 mph: 2000 Lamborghini Diablo Coatl
16. 236.1 mph: 1995 Jimenez Novia Concept
17. 236.0 mph: 1996 Ferrari F50 GT
18. 235.0 mph: 2000 Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT
19. 235.0 mph: 1995 Ford GT90 Concept
20. 235.0 mph: 1991 Koenig C62

acfsambo
07-09-2006, 01:06 AM
some of those cars are not production, some are tuned
im sorry if i didnt make it clear i want only productions cars

aiasib
07-09-2006, 01:10 AM
oh my mistake, I took production to just mean that they're available for sale, not that they're 'mass' produced and top-speed capable as is.

Guest
07-09-2006, 01:22 AM
1. 255 mph: 2005 Hennessey SRT-10 Viper Venom 1000 Coupehas this been proved?

Daz27
07-09-2006, 02:29 AM
I remember when the Ferrari F40 was the fastest, and then came along the Jag XJ220, how sweet life was....

:Exige:
07-09-2006, 03:07 AM
Here is a more complete list, if you ask me, its not up to date, but the figures are enough for you to make you own conclusions and calculations:, also they're not all production, btw

Top 20 Supercars listed by top speed

1. 255 mph: 2005 Hennessey SRT-10 Viper Venom 1000 Coupe
2. 254.7 mph: 1988 Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette
3. 253 mph: 2006 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron
4. 251.4 mph: etc...
This is just the list from Supercars.net, which is complete and utter bullsh*t as everyone should know. Most of those have never been proven, and most do not count as a production car as more than 40-something have to be produced.

@acfsambo: I'm quite sure you were right with the first 3. After that, it would be the McLaren F1 in 4th. The Saleen isn't in there because it hasn't been proven.

Now I'm not sure where we should go from here. An Ultima GTR can do 230+mph depending on the gearing etc ... they have got them over 230mph but there was not official body to record that. The GTR 720 will be faster because it has 80 more bhp, but it hasn't been tested and I'm not sure of the weight difference. Some people also count the Ultima as a kitcar, but I strongly disagree with this.

The Pagani Zonda S can't go 220mph despite the company claiming it can; Autocar found it way too unstable at 190mph. The Zonda F however has the possibility, being a more balanced car. However, I think it has been set up to be better at handling and acceleration, so I think the top speed would actually be lower.

The Ferrari Enzo has been proven to be capable of 217mph, but I'm sure theres something that is above 217mph in the leagues, but I'm just failing to remember what it was.

The number 5 spot is so hard to work out ... decide for yourself what is in at number 5 depending on how lenient you are on the rules.

acfsambo
07-09-2006, 06:11 AM
Thank you
There has to be a official record somewhere

:Exige:
07-09-2006, 06:49 AM
Thank you
There has to be a official record somewhere
Unfortunatley the only official records kept are of the cars that have broke the record. However, that would be inaccurate to judge the fastest production cars on because if you used that, the lineup would be:

1)Bugatti Veyron
2)Koenigsegg CCX
3)Koenigsegg CCR
4) McLaren F1
5) Jaguar XJ220

However, the XJ220 managed 214mph, but since then cars faster than the XJ220 have been made, but those cars have not been faster than the McLaren F1, so they are not included in this list ... if that made any sense :)

The_Canuck
07-09-2006, 12:16 PM
This is just the list from Supercars.net, which is complete and utter bullsh*t as everyone should know. Most of those have never been proven, and most do not count as a production car as more than 40-something have to be produced.

@acfsambo: I'm quite sure you were right with the first 3. After that, it would be the McLaren F1 in 4th. The Saleen isn't in there because it hasn't been proven.
Now I'm not sure where we should go from here. An Ultima GTR can do 230+mph depending on the gearing etc ... they have got them over 230mph but there was not official body to record that. The GTR 720 will be faster because it has 80 more bhp, but it hasn't been tested and I'm not sure of the weight difference. Some people also count the Ultima as a kitcar, but I strongly disagree with this.

The Pagani Zonda S can't go 220mph despite the company claiming it can; Autocar found it way too unstable at 190mph. The Zonda F however has the possibility, being a more balanced car. However, I think it has been set up to be better at handling and acceleration, so I think the top speed would actually be lower.

The Ferrari Enzo has been proven to be capable of 217mph, but I'm sure theres something that is above 217mph in the leagues, but I'm just failing to remember what it was.

The number 5 spot is so hard to work out ... decide for yourself what is in at number 5 depending on how lenient you are on the rules. A few publications have tested it :rolleyes:

pimento
07-09-2006, 05:47 PM
Hahaha, that SC.net list is entirely based on what the manufacturers said at the motor shows.. apparently the GT90 concept would go, but only at about 20mph.

hightower99
07-10-2006, 08:03 AM
Supposedly the SSC ultimate car can reach 273mph (436.8km/h)

:Exige:
07-11-2006, 03:43 PM
A few publications have tested it :rolleyes:
Publications aren't official authorities. In the same way, the Ultima GTR has been taken to incredible speeds, but because there has been no OFFICIAL testing, it is merely a claim.

h00t_h00t
07-11-2006, 04:01 PM
Supposedly the SSC ultimate car can reach 273mph (436.8km/h)
Only if Concorde towed it along.

IBrake4Rainbows
07-11-2006, 04:03 PM
Supposedly the SSC ultimate car can reach 273mph (436.8km/h)

I'm going to chalk this figure down to a computer model which has no actual bearing on real-world figures.

hightower99
07-15-2006, 11:46 AM
I'm going to chalk this figure down to a computer model which has no actual bearing on real-world figures.

I heard it was what the computer said when they plugged it into the dyno???

KnifeEdge_2K1
07-15-2006, 03:04 PM
take it on a test track or the salt flats and try to hit that, im not doubting they can, but until they do it ill just take their claim with a pinch of salt

they might be able to overcome drag at 270mph but if the car is so skittish at that speed any steering input spins you out ... well thats not very realistic is it ??

all i'm saying, put ur words where your mouth is and do a real run with it

ezekielrage123
07-19-2006, 09:55 AM
I heard the Veyron is pretty stable at 250 mph...

NAASBC355
07-29-2006, 12:46 AM
Here is a more complete list, if you ask me, its not up to date, but the figures are enough for you to make you own conclusions and calculations:, also they're not all production, btw

Top 20 Supercars listed by top speed

1. 255 mph: 2005 Hennessey SRT-10 Viper Venom 1000 Coupe
2. 254.7 mph: 1988 Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette
3. 253 mph: 2006 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron
4. 251.4 mph: 1994 Dauer 962 LeMans
5. 250.4 mph: 2001 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron Concept
6. 250.0 mph: 1992 Vector WX3 Concept
7. 249.0 mph: 2004 SSC Aero
8. 248.5 mph: 2004 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Concept
9. 248.5 mph: 2001 Lotec Sirius Concept
10. 245 mph: 2006 Koenigsegg CCX
11. 241.1 mph: 2004 Koenigsegg CCR
12. 240.1 mph: 1994 McLaren F1
13. 240.0 mph: 2002 Koenigsegg CC 8S
14. 240.0 mph: 2000 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
15. 239.2 mph: 2000 Lamborghini Diablo Coatl
16. 236.1 mph: 1995 Jimenez Novia Concept
17. 236.0 mph: 1996 Ferrari F50 GT
18. 235.0 mph: 2000 Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT
19. 235.0 mph: 1995 Ford GT90 Concept
20. 235.0 mph: 1991 Koenig C62

so if this is production cars what do you people call race cars?

~Couch

clutch-monkey
07-29-2006, 12:49 AM
so if this is production cars what do you people call race cars?

also they're not all production, btw
:rolleyes:

F1_Master
07-29-2006, 12:52 AM
I'm curious. I thought R&T said the Ford GT90 only went 70Mph on their test. Did the concept even go past 200Mph?

NAASBC355
07-29-2006, 12:57 AM
:rolleyes:

well none of them were in my book that was my point. Thanks though. I hope you don't treat all new members this way.

~Couch

clutch-monkey
07-29-2006, 12:58 AM
well none of them were in my book that was my point. Thanks though. I hope you don't treat all new members this way.

just the ones that don't read properly and spam all the threads they can find :p :D

Equinox
07-29-2006, 12:59 AM
what... the McLaren F1 fell to 12th place... good thing supercars.net is not acurate.

NAASBC355
07-29-2006, 01:01 AM
just the ones that don't read properly and spam all the threads they can find :p :D

what part didn't i read correctly? How can you call any of those cars production?

~Couch

clutch-monkey
07-29-2006, 01:04 AM
what part didn't i read correctly? How can you call any of those cars production?

~Couch
i'm just ribbing you. if you read the bit above the list you'll see where he says they're not production.

Here is a more complete list, if you ask me, its not up to date, but the figures are enough for you to make you own conclusions and calculations:, also they're not all production, btw
Top 20 Supercars listed by top speed

1. 255 mph: 2005 Hennessey SRT-10 Viper Venom 1000 Coupe
2. 254.7 mph: 1988 Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette
3. 253 mph: 2006 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron
4. 251.4 mph: 1994 Dauer 962 LeMans
5. 250.4 mph: 2001 Bugatti 16/4 Veyron Concept
6. 250.0 mph: 1992 Vector WX3 Concept
7. 249.0 mph: 2004 SSC Aero
8. 248.5 mph: 2004 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve Concept
9. 248.5 mph: 2001 Lotec Sirius Concept
10. 245 mph: 2006 Koenigsegg CCX
11. 241.1 mph: 2004 Koenigsegg CCR
12. 240.1 mph: 1994 McLaren F1
13. 240.0 mph: 2002 Koenigsegg CC 8S
14. 240.0 mph: 2000 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
15. 239.2 mph: 2000 Lamborghini Diablo Coatl
16. 236.1 mph: 1995 Jimenez Novia Concept
17. 236.0 mph: 1996 Ferrari F50 GT
18. 235.0 mph: 2000 Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT
19. 235.0 mph: 1995 Ford GT90 Concept
20. 235.0 mph: 1991 Koenig C62

Rockefella
07-29-2006, 01:05 AM
what part didn't i read correctly? How can you call any of those cars production?

~Couch
Look again, he even bolded the quoted information that states: and they're not all production btw. ;)

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=573715&postcount=21

clutch-monkey
07-29-2006, 01:07 AM
Look again, he even bolded the quoted information that states: and they're not all production btw. ;)

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=573715&postcount=21
some of even are just concepts so i have no idea how they got the top speeds for them :confused:

NAASBC355
07-29-2006, 01:12 AM
awesome, but none of them are production cars. They are all purpose built race cars. All of them not just some, but all. I understand that some "don't exist" or whatever you are trying to prove to me, but if these cars are production cars then so are NASCAR's, F1 cars and NHRA dragsters.

~Couch

clutch-monkey
07-29-2006, 01:17 AM
the veyron, the koeniggsegg, the maclaren F1 are production cars :confused:

Rockefella
07-29-2006, 01:20 AM
awesome, but none of them are production cars. They are all purpose built race cars. All of them not just some, but all. I understand that some "don't exist" or whatever you are trying to prove to me, but if these cars are production cars then so are NASCAR's, F1 cars and NHRA dragsters.

~Couch
Like Clutch said, the Dauer 962, Bugatti Veyron, McLaren F1, Koenigsegg CCX/R/8S, and SSC Aero are all production.

NAASBC355
07-29-2006, 01:23 AM
never mind this has gone past explaining

~Couch

clutch-monkey
07-29-2006, 01:25 AM
i don't get what you are trting to say? granted a lot of those cars are race cars, modified cars, concept cars, but the ones mentioned above were all production - in the sense that they were produced in a short production run, were/are road legal and came with a warranty etc etc

Equinox
07-29-2006, 01:26 PM
awesome, but none of them are production cars. They are all purpose built race cars. All of them not just some, but all. I understand that some "don't exist" or whatever you are trying to prove to me, but if these cars are production cars then so are NASCAR's, F1 cars and NHRA dragsters.

~Couch
ok...what!

the McLaren F1 is not a purpose built race car... the road car was built first and only after did they modify it to race! but the McLaren F1 is a street car and production car.

now you have me confusedby saying its not a production car :confused:

if the Veyron and McLaren F1 and the CCX etc. are not production cars then i suppose the VW bettle or honda civic are not production cars either

F1_Master
07-29-2006, 02:52 PM
Dude, you need to check something.

The McLaren was built as a usable supercar. How could it be a race car when it was in production 2 years before the company even started racing?
Koenigsegg doesn't even have a race car (I think they attempted 1 once), the Veyron will never see a race track as a race car (Regulations would never allow this thing in ALMS, FIA, etc.). The SSC "race car" is just an Aero with stickers.

I'll agree on the Dauer given it seems to be based off a Porsche 962 though I'm not sure if the 962 even raced.

The list is also wrong. The F1 hit 391Kph (proof on a video), while the CCR hit 388Kph.

You have some strange logic.

Jack_Bauer
07-29-2006, 03:49 PM
I'll agree on the Dauer given it seems to be based off a Porsche 962 though I'm not sure if the 962 even raced.

Do you mean the Porsche 962 or the Dauer 962? The Porsche 962 raced with much success in the 1980s and was one of the most decorated cars of its era winning overall victory at Le Mans etc.

Some years later, long after the car had ceased to be competitive in the Group C category, Jochen Dauer got his hands on a few old race chassis and converted them into the Dauer 962 road car. Under the ACO regs that was sufficient to classify it for entry in the GT1 class at Le Mans, where it took the title yet again in 1994 (some 7 years after its last victory as a proper Porsche).

F1_Master
07-29-2006, 04:49 PM
Ah, so both were race cars. Ok, gotcha.:)

2ndclasscitizen
07-29-2006, 05:17 PM
The list is also wrong. The F1 hit 391Kph (proof on a video), while the CCR hit 388Kph.
No. The F1 only hit 386kmh. McLaren's equipment read 391kmh, whilst the official speed reading was 386kmh. Hence, when 9ff hit 388.x and then the CCR hit 388.somethingfaster, they got the record.

Actually, I think I've already pointed this out to you.