Worst looking production road car!

[the real deal]

Which do you think is the worst looking road car ever produced?
I think that it would have to be the old Mk1 vauxhall Astra.

Watta do you think?

[henk4]

this may also qualify, it's the Mark1 version of the Citroen Visa, which was greatly improved later when it became the Visa II. (I had three of them in the past). I hope everybody will be surprised that I didn't come up with the X5, but that would have been too easy.

[Matra et Alpine]

Close call between the Vanden Plas Allegro
http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/images/vdp1500_02.jpg
and the Riley Elfe/ Wolseley Hornet
http://www.theredmini.co.uk/events/dyno/hornet.jpg
From a time when British Leyland thought that a grille, boot and wooden dash could make ANY car a 'luxury car' :)

[DasModell]

this may also qualify, it's the Mark1 version of the Citroen Visa, which was greatly improved later when it became the Visa II. (I had three of them in the past). I hope everybody will be surprised that I didn't come up with the X5, but that would have been too easy.

it looks worse then our Olcit ... probably we only had a 2 door version .. and the front was better.. :)

[Batmobile_Turbo]

Close call between the Vanden Plas Allegro

and the Riley Elfe/ Wolseley Hornet

From a time when British Leyland thought that a grille, boot and wooden dash could make ANY car a 'luxury car' :)
i think those cars are neat looking, no joke :D

[Matra et Alpine]

i think those cars are neat looking, no joke :D
No counting for taste - - Mind you, you're an Albertan :)
Won't be long till that one of 2 days in the year you can go outside between the frosts and the mosquitoes !!!
Here's some more to keep you happy. The Vanden Plas 1300 (IIRC) .....
http://www.eps1.comlink.ne.jp/~nouvel/image/princess3.jpg
And this HAS to be the worst...
Take the first of the 'aerodynamic wedge' new-shape Leylands and add a slab on the front :) The Vanden Plas Princess.....
http://www.leylandprincess.co.uk//Princess%20VP_files/image005.jpg

[deffenbaugh03]

i think all Geo's are the worst looking cars, especially with the ugly color selection they had.

[Spastik_Roach]

Ssangyong Rexton. Ughh

I think the guy who was designing this spilled noodles on it and seriously screwed it up.

http://www.in.gr/auto/dokimes/pr_dokimes_ae/foto_big/ae_SsangYong_Rexton_705_01.jpg

[IBrake4Rainbows]

The worst looking production car on the face of the planet at the moment is the Pontiac Aztek, no question. It's just so wrong.....

as for ugliest ever, this could take all night, but i'll say the.....Pontiac Aztek again, it must die......

[Spastik_Roach]

why didn't someone have the balls to come and say to a Pontiac guy that it really really sucked when they displayed it at a motorshow?

[MikeMcLarenF1]

why didn't someone have the balls to come and say to a Pontiac guy that it really really sucked when they displayed it at a motorshow?

haha.. There's smart / witty comments, and then there's stupid actions lol, the pontiac guy might be just there so there wouldn't be anyone chucking garbage @ it :D

[cls12vg30]

Ha, and that's a customized Aztek, looks better than a lot of the stock ones with all the black plastic body cladding.

[carlover]

Ha, and that's a customized Aztek, looks better than a lot of the stock ones with all the black plastic body cladding.
He probaly couldn't bear to post the stock one and spread the evil on too this site. :D

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Yes, it is true the horror of it voided the PG Rating of the site.....

it still looks really bad though....

[eyebrows]

ok i got to say the Ssangyong Rexton is very ugly for a modern car. I think u also have to look at the ugliness of a car in the years it was made because back in i have no idea when ne of those cars were made they may have looked good ne way i'll let u decide :p (note im too lazy to have a fight over ne thing and im completly indecisve :D )

[Madman]

The last of the European Ford Scorpios were pretty awful. It was a sort of characterature of faux-American design themes. No wonder Ford killed it and has never offered a replacement.

The North American Toyota Echo also takes the prize for being one of the ugliest cars on the market today. It's nothing but a Vitz/Yaris with a trunk/boot grafted onto the back end. It looks as awkward and clumsy as it sounds.

America also gets the Honda Element, a psudo-off roader that looks like it would get stuck in a puddle, nevermind on a real dirt trail. It looks just like the box it came in. It also has huge swaths of grey plastic stuck all over it in a ramdom fashion, which makes it look like they forgot to finish painting it.

Madman of the People

[cls12vg30]

That's about the best description of the Element I've ever heard.

[Spastik_Roach]

That's about the best description of the Element I've ever heard.

Ditto

[drakkie]

a lada

[drakkie]

this is a bad one too

[Coventrysucks]

Ahh, good old British Leyland.
Was there nothing they couldn't destroy?
They managed to make the Jaguar E type ugly, I kid you not.
The one I saw was a series III, which is not the best looking E type to start with. They then added an impressively awful shade of brown for the paint, some truly awful alloys, and voila...
Imagine this in a sort of chocolaty brown :(
http://www.jungbeker.nl/etype/etype_5-3_OTS.JPG

Worst looking car:
Porsche Cayenne is a strong candidate.
I don't care if it is fast, it is hideous :eek: ;)

[carlover]

this is a bad one too
I like the front of the Edonis... Although I do admit everything else on it is horrible.

[kitkat]

how about the yugo? :cool:

[DasModell]

Plymouth Superbird 427 Hemi ...

[cls12vg30]

What? Superbirds are fantastic.

And the Hemi is a 426. The 427 was a Ford motor.

[DasModell]

yeap . my bad .. but does it really matters the ONE . if the car is that ugly :) :) .. joking . i forgot to say . that it was IMHO :)

[Cotterik]

i think the peugeot 307cc is one of the ugliest cars ive seen in the past couple of years ( recent production )

[werty]

no this is ugly

[KnifeEdge_2K1]

pt cruiser and new vw beatle

[Delmaster]

I think the ugliest car ever build is the AWS Shopper.

The ugliest car in production is the Fiat Multipla.


And now look the photo I found.

[fan512bbi]

What about the new 7 sreies BMW?

[sandwich]

Damn, a few really good mentions.

I think tops is the Corbin Sparrow. I'm too lazy to look it up, but it came with three wheels and looked like a giant buttplug on wheels. I don't know who the designers were, but they should be shot, and then shot again.

I'd have to say my favorite for the ugliest car ever (with four wheels) goes to the Aston Martin Lagonda.
http://www.exoticars-usa.com/lagonda.jpg
That's just silly, it looks like a buick got it's nose caught in the door.

[sandwich]

http://www.microcarmuseum.com/tour/images/corbin-sparrow00.jpg

[byronleehk]

I like it, sandwich...no I LOVE IT!! :D

What is that anyways??

[sandwich]

black - lagonda
yellow - corbin, in all it's horror.

[burnt-rice]

Ferrari Daytona Shooting Star

[GrimaH]

[QUOTE=Spastik_Roach]"Ssangyong Rexton. Ughh

I think the guy who was designing this spilled noodles on it and seriously screwed it up."

I think the Rexton looks nice. Seriously.
It has a gracious enough shape, and its creative-looking grille adds a little bit of adventure. I daresay it looks better than an RX-8.

[GrimaH]

I think the worst looking car in production today is the Morgan Aero. Just look at the awkward curves at the front, the ugly grille and the position of the headlights. I wouldn't drive such a car for the world. :cool:

[Matra et Alpine]

I think the worst looking car in production today is the Morgan Aero. Just look at the awkward curves at the front, the ugly grille and the position of the headlights. I wouldn't drive such a car for the world. :cool:
I was in total agreement till I saw one in real life and suddenly it looks OK.
Still not great but at least now I don't want to throw-up :)

[Esperante]

This thing is beautiful compared to everything else posted here on this thread (except the Aston Martin Lagonda, which a friend of mine owns and I like very much)
http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/classicamx/classamxphotos_files/pacer-spunky1.jpg

Startin to look goo now, ain't it???

[thetruelogger]

honda element
thae new scions look like a element
volkswageon new beatle and thing
and this civic
http://groups.msn.com/MuscleCarTales/riceburnerssequel.msnw

[Cyco]

I havn't been here very long, so I'm resurecting this thread to get some of these rather hideous cars off my chest.

Some have been mentiond before, but I still think they are ugly.

Citroen C5 - You keep looking for redeming features, but you could be looking for years.

Citroen Pluriel - Is it one ugly car or 3?

Ssangyong Rexton and Musso - Hhmmmmm.

Porsche Cayenne - It took them 30 years to get the 911 right, how long will it take for this (at least the engine is in the right place!)?

Renault Senic RX4 - So woefully underpowered that it just about stops any time the steering wheel is turned. This combined with the problem that if it is taken off road and gets stuck the the wheelspin triggers the ABS which can cause the diff to exit through the side of the gearbox :eek:

Renault Van (not sure of model name) - Looks like it had 3 groups working on it: The 1st to design an ugly van, the 2nd to to design some ugly plastic parts to stick on it, and the 3rd group (blindfolded?) to stick the plastic on :rolleyes:

AU Falcon - You would have to think the lack of Tarus sales would have gine them a hint.

Nissan Micra (the new one) - Clarckson was right "Put your pen down man, Stop designing it!"

Pacer Spunky - Esperante, you have shown me something I'm not sure I ever wanted to see.

PT Cruiser - It was ugly but interesting when it came out, it is no longer interesting.

If anything jumps out at me, I'll update this list.

[jcp123]

the scion box thing
the honda element and civic si
the new bmw 5-series (oddly enough the 7 carries the styling well, imho) and Z4
toyota echo
'05 mustang
cadillac cts
the chevy trucks with the new front fascia
pt cruiser

[PerfAdv]

Ugliest....how about the Ford Tempo. I got it as a rental long ago and wondered...why, did they really design it to look like this. The panels were misaligned, the headlights were crooked and it was new.

[McLareN]

Take a look at this.
It's a Packard Hawk...

[jcp123]

Take a look at this.
It's a Packard Hawk...

You'd be surprised how many design awards it won in the early 50's when Raymond Loewy's design first came out on the Studebakers. I'd have to say IMHO it's a very classy design.

I have to say though that it did work slightly better with the more uncluttered lines of the Stude, though...

[henk4]

I have to say though that it did work slightly better with the more uncluttered lines of the Stude, though...


Indeed when Stud took over Packard at the end of the fifties they had little ideas what to do with the brand, so they compromised their own car. Not such a good idea.

[jcp123]

Indeed when Stud took over Packard at the end of the fifties they had little ideas what to do with the brand, so they compromised their own car. Not such a good idea.

Pretty much!! a shame about packard, they really did put out some nice cars...

[Guibo]

Worthy candidates all. But I can't think of anything more horrific than the Aztek. Hard to believe the same guy did the C6.

[jcp123]

Aztek.

dang i forgot about that one!! NASTY!!

[PerfAdv]

Worthy candidates all. But I can't think of anything more horrific than the Aztek. Hard to believe the same guy did the C6.


Yes, Aztek... couldn't remember its name. I change my vote to Aztec. :eek:

[cossie]

How about this piece of crap they tried to sell to us in OZ :D It looks like it has melted :eek: :)

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Don't forget, they sold heaps of those in the U.S, and you can thank a Ford Executive for saying to Import it only as a Niche car, rather than to replace the falcon with it. He lost his job for that analysis, but he saved the Falcon.

[jcp123]

call me weird, but...i sorta like those Taurus ones with the fluid styling...*shrugs*

Oh, and i thought of another one that should be added: fiat multipla

[Cyco]

How about this piece of crap they tried to sell to us in OZ It looks like it has melted

Thats the Torus

[cossie]

Thats the Torus

Taurus ;) is it's name and it might have saved the Falcon but it's style unfortunately rubbed off on the AU so we won't get that hideous styling off our roads for a while :(

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Taurus was part of the Fluid style Ford Design Phase, Falcon Was New Edge. Very different looking, though equally bad looking, cars.

[kko]

Th designer of the Aztec hated the design himself, but thats what pontiac was asking for,

[RS6]

Well any 'Bangle Designed' BMW belongs here. I think they are the most hideous cars I have ever seen. At least I won't be seeing any Aztecs in the UK, but these shit-heaps of BMWs are starting to flock the UK streets. :(

http://www.tuning-bmw.ru/news-037.jpg

Don't look at this picture too long or you will puke all over your keyboard. :D

[Wouter Melissen]

Well any 'Bangle Designed' BMW belongs here. I think they are the most hideous cars I have ever seen. At least I won't be seeing any Aztecs in the UK, but these shit-heaps of BMWs are starting to flock the UK streets. :(

Bangle designed the Z8, he hasn't designed a car in five years.

[RS6]

Bangle designed the Z8, he hasn't designed a car in five years.

Ok then, well the new BMW designs. Are you happy now?

[Esperante]

I like the new ones. I just hope they keep the M3's looks.......

[F1_Master]

I wonder if Pontiac was going through a long brain fart with that.

Must have finally kicked in when they realized a new GTO would be better.

I also like the 5 series look. Iin my eyes, it looks somewhat mean looking.

BTW, anyone remember the commercial for the last edition of the Firebird? When it pulled up behind that car, and then ate it? That was a cool commercial.

[jcp123]

the new BMW designs

I'll second that one. The 3 still looks OK, but the 1 series, z4, 5, and 6 are hideous. curiously enough i think the 7 carries the style well.

[FEAutos]

I would have to agree with the Aztek being the worst looking car...also I think the Isuzu Vehicross is pretty fugly as well. It looks like a tennis show on wheels.

[Radoman]

I'm gonna agree with the Aztec, but also add in the old Dodge/Plymouth K-cars. ye gads....

[FEAutos]

i would also have to add the Porsche Cheyanne...or however you spell it...

[darkhorse302001]

:mad: Pontiac Aztek :mad: (Should be called ASS-Tech :D ) by far is one of the ugliest things ever to make to production ... how is a mystery to me to this day ! The Vibe GT was a real winner too wasn't it ... LOL

[wickedgam]

this the uglyest car ever.it's a dacia 500 or lastun

[dydzi]

polonez
its so ugly that i am not even able to post a pic of it

[derekthetree]

lada 111 injection
just found a picture of it
you can still buy it but it looks like it was made in the eighties

[dydzi]

lada 111 injection
just found a picture of it
you can still buy it but it looks like it was made in the eighties

yeah ive even seen it on the street - it looks ... weird. lada wanted to look it modern, it looks like the rest of ladas :p
btw, its one of the most modern looking lada - in production there are still some real classic, like 21076 (1976:D) and samara

[henk4]

yeah ive even seen it on the street - it looks ... weird. lada wanted to look it modern, it looks like the rest of ladas :p
btw, its one of the most modern looking lada - in production there are still some real classic, like 21076 (1976:D) and samara

A new Lada, the classic model, can be had for US$ 3000 and probably even cheaper if you pick it up directly from the factory.

[clutch-monkey]

A new Lada, the classic model, can be had for US$ 3000 and probably even cheaper if you pick it up directly from the factory.

but there are better things to spend $3000 on.... my freind had her sound system stolen out of her lada (a sound system? in a lada?), apparently the thieves simply levered the boot open with a crowbar

[dydzi]

you can buy brand new kamaz 11113 m oka or SeAZ 11113 oka for just 2000$! and its not a kit car. it has been produced since 1987, and it even had face-lifting in 1996!:D

[Lagonda]

Bangle designed the Z8, he hasn't designed a car in five years.

He approves the designs, that's bad enough.

[wickedgam]

you can buy brand new kamaz 11113 m oka or SeAZ 11113 oka for just 2000$! and its not a kit car. it has been produced since 1987, and it even had face-lifting in 1996!:D

your cheap:d
in romania you can buy a daewoo matiz for 4400 euros and dacia solenza for 4600 euros.the dacia berlina(renault 12) finished it career after 35 years in june 04(1969-2004) and it was sold for 4000$.

[ScionDriver]

The Isuzu VEHIcross is pretty damn ugly. But I don't have much room to talk because a lotta people think my car is ugly (Scion xB) and then others say it looks like the MUCH uglier Honda Element.

[henk4]

but there are better things to spend $3000 on.... my freind had her sound system stolen out of her lada (a sound system? in a lada?), apparently the thieves simply levered the boot open with a crowbar

My brother had a Lada in the early seventies while living in Amsterdam, he never left any valuables in the car and did not close it t o prevent damage to the car.

[Alstor]

Yes Lada is nasty!

[jcp123]

Well, my current bane is the '05 Mustang, and much of my rancor is tied to its styling.

[franfran]

Lightburn Zeta anyone?

http://www.carlustblog.com/images/2008/08/26/zeta_2.gif

[iwmakemh]

I pick the new chevy aveo because of its menacing "Look I'm a big bad full size sedan!" front end but when you look at everything else your disappointed, because is a little cheap hatchback that was meant to be an affordable car for the bad economy.

[PRC777]

Straight from UCP's images: This particular Punto. I'm a little afraid of the front end.

[iwmakemh]

Straight from UCP's images: This particular Punto. I'm a little afraid of the front end.

A bit too much of a boy racer look, I think it would look better without the tasteless graphics arbath could have just thrown on some of their badges and the bodywork is different so you can differentiate the arbath punto and the normal one.

Is anyone noticing a trend with the ugly production cars? They are all hatches or at least have a lift back trunk.

[henk4]

I see that my last contribution here dates from six years ago.

I can now confidently claim the BMW X6 to be the only worthy contender for this title. It even managed to beat the X5.

[Ferrer]

I don't know what the hell were Fiat thinking when they facelifted the Punto. It was one of the best, perhaps the best, looking B-segment hatches and now look what they've done...

I see that my last contribution here dates from six years ago.

I can now confidently claim the BMW X6 to be the only worthy contender for this title. It even managed to beat the X5.
And by a large margin.

[iwmakemh]

I see that my last contribution here dates from six years ago.

I can now confidently claim the BMW X6 to be the only worthy contender for this title. It even managed to beat the X5.

I looked at this picture of the X6 and it looks like a boot's and the Porsche Cayenne's bastard love child.

[franfran]

Weber Sportscars supercar perhaps?

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200704/weber-sportscar-1_460x0w.jpg

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200704/weber-sportscar-2_460x0w.jpg

[henk4]

does not really look like a production road car to me, although it is butt ugly.

[ThisBlood147]

Pontiac Aztec still owns the crown in my humble opinion. I just know the people that designed that abomination were never able to find work again (or at least.......I hope :D).

[iwmakemh]

Fiat Multipla hands down! It looks like a blow fish lol

[henk4]

Fiat Multipla hands down! It looks like a blow fish lol
The Multipla does not make any secrets about its purpose, to carry 6 people. The X6 is a pure identity crisis on wheels.

[iwmakemh]

The Multipla does not make any secrets about its purpose, to carry 6 people. The X6 is a pure identity crisis on wheels.

I think the X6 would look a whole lot better if it didn't have such large wheel arches and the sloping back which I can't come up with any purpose for it.

[iwmakemh]

Honda Accord Crosstour.
I saw one on display at costco I had to post it.

[TheScrutineer]

My friend has a crazy idea about converting a multipla to have its headlights were its fog lights are. Maybe even a rear wheel drive conversion :) There actually good cars you know, if you get past the extreme looks.

Come on, the Ssang Yong Rodius takes hideous to a whole new level.

http://car-blueprints.narod.ru/images/ssangyong/ssangyong-rodius-2006.gif

[iwmakemh]

My friend has a crazy idea about converting a multipla to have its headlights were its fog lights are. Maybe even a rear wheel drive conversion :) There actually good cars you know, if you get past the extreme looks.

Come on, the Ssang Yong Rodius takes hideous to a whole new level.

http://car-blueprints.narod.ru/images/ssangyong/ssangyong-rodius-2006.gif

lol Sleeper much?

I wouldn't know about the Fiat being good or not since I'm in the US. I wish we got the same cars that the UK gets.

[wwgkd]

So many to choose from, but the AMC Gremlin and Pacer have got to rank high on the list. Possibly not as high as the multipla, though. Can't forget the Ford Edsel, either.

[TheScrutineer]

lol Sleeper much?

I wouldn't know about the Fiat being good or not since I'm in the US. I wish we got the same cars that the UK gets.

Apparently its very good and handles well because of the wide wheelbase. It just looks a bit crazy.

The Gremlins a classic!

[iwmakemh]

Apparently its very good and handles well because of the wide wheelbase. It just looks a bit crazy.

The Gremlins a classic!

Apparently the Gremlin is a desirable undesirable car
Thats not a typo lol here people will strip them down to hell and stuff huge v8s in them and drag race them.

[wwgkd]

Apparently the Gremlin is a desirable undesirable car
Thats not a typo lol here people will strip them down to hell and stuff huge v8s in them and drag race them.

I've seen people do that. I've also seen them do that with an opel cadet. I thought the cadet was a much better alternative, even if you have to deal with people shouting "Oliver!" everywhere you go.

[iwmakemh]

I've seen people do that. I've also seen them do that with an opel cadet. I thought the cadet was a much better alternative, even if you have to deal with people shouting "Oliver!" everywhere you go.

I really want to see Jeremy drop a piano on Oliver during the news segment so I can see Richards facial expression haha

I saw a Fiat X1/9 in a Safeway parking lot last week, it reminded me that we don't get all the cars the UK gets and that really ticks me off you know?

[franfran]

I saw a Fiat X1/9 in a Safeway parking lot last week, it reminded me that we don't get all the cars the UK gets and that really ticks me off you know?

There are a few out here, but you don't see them very often:

http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr77/franspiccys/20-9-a.jpg

[TheScrutineer]

x1/9s are cool. my friend has just purchased a nice blue one. Has had to do a lot of tweaking to get it past its MOT but well worth it. A little bit too heavy to be quick.

[franfran]

http://www.aronline.co.uk/images/vdp1500_01.jpg

[TheScrutineer]

Yey Autin Allegro! This one actually looks quite nice with the rolls royce grill. I read it had so much chassis flex that when jacking it off the ground the windows could pop out.:D

[franfran]

The Austin Allegro didn't look that bad, although it was hardly beautiful. But with the Vandenplas grille added to it, the whole thing was just out of proportion.

[Ferrer]

Next to masterpieces like the Aztek, the Allegro looks beautiful.

[iwmakemh]

I got one this car is high on my ugly list!
Behold the Aston Martin Lagonda!

[PRC777]

I got one this car is high on my ugly list!
Behold the Aston Martin Lagonda!

As of now, the X5 and Aztec have been officially challenged. :)

[iwmakemh]

The X5 and Aztec have been officially challenged. :)

haha two luxury brands are competing over the title of "Ugliest Production Road Car"

[PRC777]

haha two luxury brands are competing over the title of "Ugliest Production Road Car"

The Lagonda you posted might have taken the cake. I forgot to add the X6 in the mix.

[cmcpokey]

the X5 and X6 are straight up sexy next to the 5 series GT. the Lagnonda isn't a great looking car, but it is one of the few examples of 70s wedge style applied to a saloon car. certainly unique.

[iwmakemh]

the X5 and X6 are straight up sexy next to the 5 series GT. the Lagnonda isn't a great looking car, but it is one of the few examples of 70s wedge style applied to a saloon car. certainly unique.

I don't think the X6 is an ugly car, it just needs some detailing done i.e. kill the hugely flared wheel arches and get rid of the sloping roofline and give it a conventional roof. The X5 to me isn't terrible looking, its not a pretty car but it isn't an eyesore.

Was the wedge design proposed as being more aerodynamic? (Apply to all cars not just the Lagonda)

I forgot about the 5 series gt, the grill and the mesh on the bumper remind me of pictures that look like they're moving, but their not.

[franfran]

So long as you just look at it from the side, the Lagonda doesn't look that bad. here's one I saw at a car show last year (probably the only place you'll ever see one):

[iwmakemh]

So long as you just look at it from the side, the Lagonda doesn't look that bad. here's one I saw at a car show last year (probably the only place you'll ever see one):

I've only seen one type Aston in my entire life and it was a DB9, it was owned by some guy in like his 40's, he would be driving it a few times a week it was joy to see. I've seen loads of exclusive cars, but there aren't many Aston Martins where I live. Does anyone know if the Lagonda was a good seller? I can't be bothered to look it up.

[cmcpokey]

I don't think the X6 is an ugly car, it just needs some detailing done i.e. kill the hugely flared wheel arches and get rid of the sloping roofline and give it a conventional roof. The X5 to me isn't terrible looking, its not a pretty car but it isn't an eyesore.

Was the wedge design proposed as being more aerodynamic? (Apply to all cars not just the Lagonda)

I forgot about the 5 series gt, the grill and the mesh on the bumper remind me of pictures that look like they're moving, but their not.

i actually find the X6 to be attractive. as long as you look at it objectively and not from the viewpoint that it is a relatively pointless vehicle, it is a rather fluent design. if you took away that roof line though, you would just have the X5, so a bit of a pointless change there.

i would suppose the wedge was aerodynamic, at least when compared to their contemporaries. aerodynamics were really very rudimentary at that point though.

[Ferrer]

The X6 is a case of good detailing applied to the wrong car. Curiously the opposite of what's usual at BMW these days. The 5er GT could've been great, but it's just out of proportion.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

The X6 is perversely attractive because there is nothing remotely like it - the ZDX is a poor relative in comparison, and the Accord GrandTour is just sad.

Having said that it's a telling indictment of what the general public thinks is cool these days, and a sad tale that is.

[Ferrer]

Fortunately there's still hope for us out there.

[TheScrutineer]

Nothing is cool about a beefed up sportscar on stilts. I hate the X6 SUV/car and all these sport SUVs. The day they put an M badge on an X6 is the day I lost respect for BMW. If you have to get an SUV get something practical and softly sprung for godsake. And you better not live in the city.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

The M is an anomaly.

But the fact remains this car is remarkable for it's ability to challenge preconceptions.

[henk4]

The M is an anomaly.

But the fact remains this car is remarkable for it's ability to challenge preconceptions.

if it had been called Ssang young, everybody would have laughed.

[Ferrer]

I think everyone with common sense still laughs.

Or cries.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Ssangyong technically came up with the concept ages ago, with their Actyon.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=328485&stc=1&d=1268655100

I don't pretend for a minute to defend the X6M, I find it an abhorrent waste of space, materials and engineering. What I will say though, is that if you are going to go off the deep end, dive feet first - which is what they've done.

[TheScrutineer]

The M is an anomaly.

But the fact remains this car is remarkable for it's ability to challenge preconceptions.

There is no doubt the X6 'M' is an intelligent piece of engineering and does well to hide its weight. But its still trying to make something sporty that in principle is not. Same phylosophy as those idiots who put 300hp engines in their vauxhall novas. Whats the point?

Regarding that Actyon, look at the hideous front end

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/0/C20129041C26AF1DCA2572C60005A03C/$file/SsangYong_Actyon_Front.jpg?OpenElement

Also, shoot this person now!

http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/badly-modified-cars-281.jpg

[IBrake4Rainbows]

There is no doubt the X6 'M' is an intelligent piece of engineering and does well to hide its weight. But its still trying to make something sporty that in principle is not. Same phylosophy as those idiots who put 300hp engines in their vauxhall novas. Whats the point?

For the Lulz?

Maybe Germans do have a sense of humour?

[henk4]

Ssangyong technically came up with the concept ages ago, with their Actyon.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=328485&stc=1&d=1268655100

I don't pretend for a minute to defend the X6M, I find it an abhorrent waste of space, materials and engineering. What I will say though, is that if you are going to go off the deep end, dive feet first - which is what they've done.
quite, and what did everybody do? They rediculed that car. Now it carries a BMW badge and hop, go the fanboys.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Plainly it's the superior flame surfacing on the BMW that makes it worthwhile.

[Ferrer]

For the Lulz?

Maybe Germans do have a sense of humour?
That was proved earlier with the Volkswagen Phaeton.

Plainly it's the superior flame surfacing on the BMW that makes it worthwhile.
And the amount badging on the car as well. I mean it it's called xDrive 40d, that's got be worth a lot, even if it's a silly collection of letters and numbers.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

I think on countback the Ssangyong Actyon Diesel still wins the badge count, if only through sheer Scrabble Triple word score Names.

xDrive is ridiculous though.

[Ferrer]

Z4s being called sDrive is even worse. What's next? sDrive Mtrans, for two wheel drive manual sportscars?

[IBrake4Rainbows]

xDrive DsTrans fLobot.

For those idiots who probably shouldn't be driving.

[Cyco]

The wedge is not so bad in person to look at, thought I'd hate to work on one. Stories are of things like dash removal to replace the windscreen...

Only 645 where ever built

[iwmakemh]

Next to masterpieces like the Aztek, the Allegro looks beautiful.

Thumbs up for the sarcasm haha

[iwmakemh]

The X6 is perversely attractive because there is nothing remotely like it - the ZDX is a poor relative in comparison, and the Accord GrandTour is just sad.

Having said that it's a telling indictment of what the general public thinks is cool these days, and a sad tale that is.

I absolutely despise the majority of new cars today because of their styling, generation of cars are becoming bigger and having been overly styled.


Nothing is cool about a beefed up sportscar on stilts. I hate the X6 SUV/car and all these sport SUVs. The day they put an M badge on an X6 is the day I lost respect for BMW. If you have to get an SUV get something practical and softly sprung for godsake. And you better not live in the city.

BMW sticks the M badge on every car they make! The m badge used to be exclusive, but now a days you can have it on your car for something as stupid as having the optional m sport wheels or what not.

I get the point of an SUV, a large vehicle meant to carry lots of cargo and people at the same time, with the capabilities of towing, and maybe some off road ability as well. I think most people buy them just as an accessory.

[Ferrer]

I get the point of an SUV, a large vehicle meant to carry lots of cargo and people at the same time, with the capabilities of towing, and maybe some off road ability as well. I think most people buy them just as an accessory.
(One of) The problem of the SUV is that it tries to be all things to all men and as a result of making too many compromises it fails at everyting.

Need to tow something? Buy a truck or an off roader. Need something sporty? Buy a sportscar or a sports saloon. Need to carry aroun a lot of people or stuff? Buy an estate or an MPV. Need to go off-road? Buy a proper off-roader.

An SUV does neither of these things very well. And on top of all their huge heavy vehicles which costs lots of money, have abysmal fuel consumption, are slower and thirstier than cars and get stuck every 100 yards if there's a bit of mud in the road.

[iwmakemh]

(One of) The problem of the SUV is that it tries to be all things to all men and as a result of making too many compromises it fails at everyting.

Need to tow something? Buy a truck or an off roader. Need something sporty? Buy a sportscar or a sports saloon. Need to carry aroun a lot of people or stuff? Buy an estate or an MPV. Need to go off-road? Buy a proper off-roader.

An SUV does neither of these things very well. And on top of all their huge heavy vehicles which costs lots of money, have abysmal fuel consumption, are slower and thirstier than cars and get stuck every 100 yards if there's a bit of mud in the road.

The Land Rover LR3 (Discovery) does the off roading quite well and it does seat a good bit of people. It does have a thirsty V8 and probably is crap at towing. They aren't that good to be on the road, I've heard of parents buying SUVs for their kids because they don't want them to be hurt in a crash. When I'm walking home from school I always see the kids with trucks and SUVs flooring it out of the parking lots and down the road, just imagine what would happen if they made one mistake and crashed into someone driving the opposite way, the road is extremely narrow too. Lets have all SUVs crushed immediately! XD

[Ferrer]

Precisely. I'm sure the Disco it's fine as a towing car and it does pretty well off-road, altough there are other better options if you are serious about going off-road.

But as a family car it fails. Yes, it can seat seven, but so can many MPVs. The base model, with a 190bhp diesel V6 and a manual costs almost 43.000 €, weights 2500kg, does 0-100km/h in almost 12 seconds, has a top speed of 180km/h and does 9,2l/100km combined.

You can a Ford Galaxy with 175bhp diesel engine and a manual for 35 grand. It weights 1840kg, does 0-100km/h in 9"6 seconds, has a 206km/h top speed and does 6,7l/100km combined.

So as a family car the Dicos makes no sense. And that's what they use them for, most of all.

[iwmakemh]

Precisely. I'm sure the Disco it's fine as a towing car and it does pretty well off-road, altough there are other better options if you are serious about going off-road.

But as a family car it fails. Yes, it can seat seven, but so can many MPVs. The base model, with a 190bhp diesel V6 and a manual costs almost 43.000 €, weights 2500kg, does 0-100km/h in almost 12 seconds, has a top speed of 180km/h and does 9,2l/100km combined.

You can a Ford Galaxy with 175bhp diesel engine and a manual for 35 grand. It weights 1840kg, does 0-100km/h in 9"6 seconds, has a 206km/h top speed and does 6,7l/100km combined.

So as a family car the Dicos makes no sense. And that's what they use them for, most of all.

Here the Discovery is not used for towing or anything related to off roading at all. People use it as a family car, here in America we don't even get offered a diesel on most cars like other countries do. A normal mpv is what most people should have, its the same concept without the big v8 or what not and they also don't have all the dead weight.

[wwgkd]

The Land Rover LR3 (Discovery) does the off roading quite well and it does seat a good bit of people. It does have a thirsty V8 and probably is crap at towing. They aren't that good to be on the road, I've heard of parents buying SUVs for their kids because they don't want them to be hurt in a crash. When I'm walking home from school I always see the kids with trucks and SUVs flooring it out of the parking lots and down the road, just imagine what would happen if they made one mistake and crashed into someone driving the opposite way, the road is extremely narrow too. Lets have all SUVs crushed immediately! XD

Sorry, but I have to interject here. People talk about how Land Rovers are good offroad, but they haven't been for many years. To get good offroadability you have to modify them to the extent that you may as well have bought something cheaper.

[iwmakemh]

Sorry, but I have to interject here. People talk about how Land Rovers are good offroad, but they haven't been for many years. To get good offroadability you have to modify them to the extent that you may as well have bought something cheaper.

Take any stock car that has off road capabilities as one of its perks, put on off road tires and put them to the test. All of the tests I've read and seen end up with the Land Rover as the best off roader. What cars would you say are better? The only thing I can think of isn't an SUV its a truck! Two trucks actually.

[wwgkd]

Just off the top of my head a stock (no tire swap or anything) Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, especially the TJ model but also the JK, a Hummer H1 (or even the H2 and H3,) if you want to count trucks the Ram Powerwagon or the SVT Raptor.

With a Land Rover LR3 if you want decent offroad tires you're probably going to be swapping suspension and wheels, too, so why not start with something less comfort oriented originally? God made asphault so yuppies have some place to go fourwheeling. ;)

[iwmakemh]

Just off the top of my head a stock (no tire swap or anything) Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, especially the TJ model but also the JK, a Hummer H1 (or even the H2 and H3,) if you want to count trucks the Ram Powerwagon or the SVT Raptor.

With a Land Rover LR3 if you want decent offroad tires you're probably going to be swapping suspension and wheels, too, so why not start with something less comfort oriented originally? God made asphault so yuppies have some place to go fourwheeling. ;)

I thought hummers sucked at off roading, I had a Toyota Tacoma and a Ford F150 in mind for trucks that would be good at off roading.

[wwgkd]

I thought hummers sucked at off roading, I had a Toyota Tacoma and a Ford F150 in mind for trucks that would be good at off roading.

The originals were pretty good all rounders, but hard to modify for rock crawling because of the suspension setup. The H2 and H3 tend to break if you put larger tires on and do anything serious, but so do 'rovers. Tacomas are another one, especially with the TRD offroad package, that's pretty good straight from the factory.

[iwmakemh]

The originals were pretty good all rounders, but hard to modify for rock crawling because of the suspension setup. The H2 and H3 tend to break if you put larger tires on and do anything serious, but so do 'rovers. Tacomas are another one, especially with the TRD offroad package, that's pretty good straight from the factory.

There are a lot of Tacoma rock crawlers out there, they run forever! I can go out right now and buy an early 90s one for a thousand dollars and I'll be able to abuse it on and on again and I'll still be able to drive it back home. Did Toyota ever go through with dropping a V8 in it?
We are so off topic haha

[4wheelsonline]

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that cars. It's all nice and neat to look at no offense. :D

[kingofthering]

Did Toyota ever go through with dropping a V8 in it?


That's for the Tundra, son.
http://www.pickuptrucks.com/trucks/IMAGES/stories/2008baja500/inbaja/tundraprerunner.jpg

:cool:

[iwmakemh]

That's for the Tundra, son.
http://www.pickuptrucks.com/trucks/IMAGES/stories/2008baja500/inbaja/tundraprerunner.jpg

:cool:

I think the Tundra is a good looking car I wouldn't mind owning one, I love pickups and japanese cars so i would love the tundra even though its built in america and had a v8 and is intended to be sold mainly in america. haha I love toyota they never cease to amaze me.

[andycoates]

Guyson E12. Re-bodied E-Type Series 3 after owner binned it one night. How could anybody do this to an E-Type?! :confused:

[cargirl1990]

Chrysler Sebring. Nuff said.

[iwmakemh]

Chrysler Sebring. Nuff said.

Not a good looker indeed. The convertable looks fine to me though.

[cargirl1990]

Dude... Convertible is horrible. XD

[iwmakemh]

Dude... Convertible is horrible. XD

Its not terrible.
Think of it this way, it could look like this...

[cargirl1990]

Its not terrible.
Think of it this way, it could look like this...

LOL. I may be a girl but that and the Chyrsler are incredibly girly. One of those cars where women don't realize they got ripped off in purchasing that kind of car at the dealership.

[iwmakemh]

LOL. I may be a girl but that and the Chyrsler are incredibly girly. One of those cars where women don't realize they got ripped off in purchasing that kind of car at the dealership.

The sebring loses value so fast! I hear they give problems non stop lol.
The ironic thing, is in my city some of the gang bangers will drop a few thousand dollars worth of wheels paint and stereo on this car. They don't seem to mind it being girly! lol

[cargirl1990]

The sebring loses value so fast! I hear they give problems non stop lol.
The ironic thing, is in my city some of the gang bangers will drop a few thousand dollars worth of wheels paint and stereo on this car. They don't seem to mind it being girly! lol

LOL. I've seen men drive 'em. Makes me wonder... Anyways, the new one is not a car I'd recommend on anyone buying.
- engine is unrefined (inline 4)
- V6 is kinda mediocre
- interior is GARBAGE
- low scores in just about everything else.
I found the new Sebring had a forced design on the exterior. Nothing seemed to go together on that car...

[franfran]

I'm not so sure about the Sebring being the worst looking production road car. It's not one of the best looking ones, but I think that there are a lot out there that are worse looking.

And I can't say that it ever struck me as being "girly" - if anything I would say it looks rather sexless...........

[iwmakemh]

I'm not so sure about the Sebring being the worst looking production road car. It's not one of the best looking ones, but I think that there are a lot out there that are worse looking.

And I can't say that it ever struck me as being "girly" - if anything I would say it looks rather sexless...........

I think that Pontiac Sunfire Convertible could be one of the worst looking cars out there. There are other pictures of it that are simply hideous!

[PRC777]

Seriously, guys. Aston Martin Lagonda.

[franfran]

Maybe it isn't eligible for inclusion in the list as, strictly speaking it's not really a car, but has anyone mentioned the SsangYong Odious?

[ScionDriver]

I'm sure it's been said but the Isuzu Vehicross is just awful. So was the Chevy Cavalier.

[MoW]

I'm a bit worried about the Ssangyong designers. :D

[MoW]

Seriously, guys. Aston Martin Lagonda.

You're right ... and have you seen any of the Bristol cars? Blenheim: Total UK Price Ł163,294.25 ... no joke :eek:

Apparently when you want to have a test drive they refuse you. You either buy it because you really want it or you don't deserve it.

[Ferrer]

The Bristol Blenheim is a great car.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

That doesn't make it any less ugly.

[Ferrer]

It's not ugly. Just old.

[MoW]

I believe they still make them. It's the feeling of exclusivity what people buy. Can't be the looks.

http://www.bristolcars.co.uk/pics/Blenheim3_SideShot.jpg

[Kitdy]

The Bristol Blenheim is a great car.

Read (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bristol-blenheim/).

[TheScrutineer]

The Bristol Blenheim is a great car.

Its got a cool image, but its a heavily outdated chassis bolted to Chysler V8 and sold 'as new'.

[clutch-monkey]

Read (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/bristol-blenheim/).

par for the course for UK build quality. i don't know why the author acts suprised?


"What are the two things that can be seen from outer space?" the owner asked rhetorically. "The Great Wall of China and the panel gaps of a Bristol." True enough, despite the fact that this particular Blenheim had recently enjoyed a body-off restoration– to eliminate rot. Which was discovered after the car's paint had cracked (necessitating a total re-spray). Whereupon the owner's mechanics addressed a veritable laundry list of mechanical ailments: inoperative air conditioning, "inappropriate" shock absorbers, a failed exhaust system, two blown window motors, axle whine, insufficient engine cooling and more.

[henk4]

par for the course for UK build quality. i don't know why the author acts suprised?

the mechanical failures there point heavily at neglected maintenance...also a Bristol needs servicing.

and for what it is worth, it looks so much better than a current 6-series BMW.

[Kitdy]

par for the course for UK build quality. i don't know why the author acts suprised?

I think the author acts surprised because this is a car that costs over 150k pounds.

Par for the course UK build quality - sure, maybe when you'd consider Rovers and BL products, but for boutique luxury manufacturers? You'd figure you know, that they'd have shit down or they wouldn't sell.

If you were the hardestcore Britophile, why would you buy this over the XJ? Is it one of those veblen goods?

[TheScrutineer]

If you were the hardestcore Britophile, why would you buy this over the XJ? Is it one of those veblen goods?

Further exclusivity and badge snobbery I suppose.

[clutch-monkey]

Par for the course UK build quality - sure, maybe when you'd consider Rovers and BL products, but for boutique luxury manufacturers? You'd figure you know, that they'd have shit down or they wouldn't sell.

i think it's just something in the water though. i notice when the germans get involved things seem to work a little better (MG debacle aside)

[Ferrer]

If they made LHD versions and I had the money I'd love to have a Blenheim.

It doesn't matter that it's a bad car or that it is outdated. That's completely missing the point. Judging this car for its objective abilities is like judging a porn film for its plot. There isn't any a no one cares.

What the Blenheim is, like the old Morgans, the Arnage or the Murcielago, is a representative of the old way of doing cars. It's particularly great when the journalists speaks with Bristol's owner and says what does the S have over the standard car? "Bigger canshafts and things like that", he says. Brilliant. No ECU reflash, no electronics, just old-school tuning for an old-school car.

Of course, if you are the one who things that all that matters with cars is go fast it can go, how does it turn and stop and this sort of things, the Blelnheim isn't for you. It'll be a complete disappointment, as it would any 50 year old car. But if you judge a car by how it makes you feel, then Blenheim might just do the trick for you.

[TheScrutineer]

What the Blenheim is, like the old Morgans, the Arnage or the Murcielago, is a representative of the old way of doing cars. It's particularly great when the journalists speaks with Bristol's owner and says what does the S have over the standard car? "Bigger canshafts and things like that", he says. Brilliant. No ECU reflash, no electronics, just old-school tuning for an old-school car.


The S actually does have a remapped ECU, but I understand your point about 'ruggedness'. The Blenheim is solid well understood engineering which means super-long lifespan if looked after. But because of that it certainly is not cutting edge.

[MoW]

i think it's just something in the water though. i notice when the germans get involved things seem to work a little better (MG debacle aside)

Not so sure about that. I used to have a Range Rover, the one with the BMW 4.4, thinking at least the germans parts should work but the opposite was true. Engine oil, cooling system, aircon everything was leaking, not mentioning the electrics, steering and suspension.

[Commodore GS/E]

The '99 Hyundai Coupe looks just awful. I can't imagine what they were thinking of when they designed it. Maybe a monkey's ass.
http://www.autoplenum.de/Bilder/P/p0006058/HYUNDAI/HYUNDAI-Coupe-2-0-FX--1999-2001-.jpg

[franfran]

The '99 Hyundai Coupe looks just awful. I can't imagine what they were thinking of when they designed it. Maybe a monkey's ass.

It sort of bears a passing resemblance to a wombat............

http://archive.wongawillicolonialdance.org.au/thewombats/wombat2%5B1%5D.jpeg

[iwmakemh]

The '99 Hyundai Coupe looks just awful. I can't imagine what they were thinking of when they designed it. Maybe a monkey's ass.
http://www.autoplenum.de/Bilder/P/p0006058/HYUNDAI/HYUNDAI-Coupe-2-0-FX--1999-2001-.jpg

The Hyundai Tiburon (Coupe) that you guys in europe got is awful the one I think because of the headlights. We got a better one in the states it looks a great deal better. I think this car was targeted at the states anyways.

[TheScrutineer]

One of the ugliest front ends I have seen in a long time...

http://www.yosax.com/car_images/aston-martin-one-77.jpg

[Commodore GS/E]

One of the ugliest front ends I have seen in a long time...

I actually like it very much :eek:

[group c n b man]

I actually like it very much :eek:

He was being sarcastic... At least, I hope he was.:D

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I vote the Mark1 version of the Citroen Visa