Name the badges - new Matra et Alpine challenge

[Matra et Alpine]

OK, new quiz for you all...

I'm going to post a car badge - some easy , some hard :)

You have to guess the car company.

As soon as someone has it right I'll post the next badge.

Ready .....

GO !!

[Need4Speed]

I thinks its the old, oldsmobile badge.

Im not sure but i hink GM owns the company now.

[Need4Speed]

And oldsmobile is american.

[henk4]

Overland?

[Spastik_Roach]

Can't you just do something easy like a blue oval or a Type-R Badge?

[fpv_gtho]

I thinks its the old, oldsmobile badge.

Im not sure but i hink GM owns the company now.


Oldsmobile have officially shut down. As far as i know, GM have owned them for all or near-all of their productive life and were widely known for being GM's test subjects, being the first to recieve things like auto transmissions and other things that GM tried on Oldsmobile before the risk of applying it across their range

[Wouter Melissen]

Oldsmobile have officially shut down. As far as i know, GM have owned them for all or near-all of their productive life and were widely known for being GM's test subjects, being the first to recieve things like auto transmissions and other things that GM tried on Oldsmobile before the risk of applying it across their range

Yep and stuff like Front Wheel Drive (Toronado) and quad cam technology (Aurora).

[Matra et Alpine]

I thinks its the old, oldsmobile badge.

Well done N4S.

It's the oldsmobile.

Here's the original badge and the next one.
( They're in random order, so easier ones will come later S_R :) )

[henk4]

Nardi?

[Matra et Alpine]

Nardi?
Yes.
Hmmm this may not work out with timsezones and stuff.
Anyway unless someone complains I'll keep going.
So henk gets it with Nardi.
Here's the complete badge and the next one ....

[henk4]

Just guessing: Cadillac?
(PS: I never saw the Nardi badge before and I wonder how many people from other time zone's might) :)

[Wouter Melissen]

Koenigsegg.

[Matra et Alpine]

Just guessing: Cadillac?
(PS: I never saw the Nardi badge before and I wonder how many people from other time zone's might) :)
NOT Cadillac :)
My concern over timezones was in case you were able to answer a few hours before anyone else even gets to see it.
The badges are globally diverse :) I'd thought it would have taken an 'mericun to guess that first one.
This one is different :)

[SPN:DOC]

ahhh is it a Koenigsegg badge..... :)

[Matra et Alpine]

ahhh is it a Koenigsegg badge..... :)
Well done ...
and here's the next one :)

[henk4]

austro-daimler

[Matra et Alpine]

austro-daimlerNo, it's not :)

C'mon folks, are these too difficult ? Folks only want to guess blue ovals, three-pointed stars ?? I thought this would be a challenge you could rise to.

[Ferrari Tifosi]

Seat Leon?

[UK CARS]

Well done ...
and here's the next one :)

can we have a clue please? :o :D

[Batmobile_Turbo]

peugot?

[Spastik_Roach]

Healey? (If this is right, I am officially the luckiest person in the world)

[Matra et Alpine]

OK, toughies like this are going to keep popping up.
This would be no fun if they were all easy.

So the car company was formed in 1907 and listed on the stock market in 1992. Now mainly trucks and components and special vehicles. One factory provides the gearboxes for a mainline battle tank :)
It's NOT American :) :)
[ It's great what you can find on the internet :) ]

[carlover]

Thank god for google. ;)

Oakland Motor Car Co. badge? :confused: Still might not be right.

[Matra et Alpine]

Thank god for google. ;)

Oakland Motor Car Co. badge? :confused: Still might not be right.

OK, even the hints aren't helping.
Well maybe help locate the comapny if I add that one of the factories assembles Skoda trucks :)

[MrVette83]

Peugot?

[Matra et Alpine]

Peugot?
Nope, more hints then ...
the mainline battle tank is/was the T72

They also do an Enduro bike - the xxxxx ED 250.

[MrVette83]

Praga?

[Matra et Alpine]

Praga?
Well done, that WAS a hard one - and there's worse to come :)

Anyway, here's the complete badge and the next 'challenge' :)

[Need4Speed]

Im not sure, but it looks like an American company.

[MrVette83]

AMC(American Motors Compnay)?

[fpv_gtho]

yeah it looks like it could be AMC, with the flag and all

[Matra et Alpine]

yeah it looks like it could be AMC, with the flag and all
nope.

It was an American company :)
WRONG>>>>>>>>Became part of GM many years ago<<<<WRONG

[fpv_gtho]

saturn?

[Matra et Alpine]

Became part of GM many years ago
This is just plain WRONG. I should check things more closely when trying to give hints ...

So this should make it easier ....

In 1925 this company becomes Chrysler Corporation with Walter Chrysler as president

[EvilPaladin]

That's a VERY big hint.

Maxwell Motor Company ?

[henk4]

This is just plain WRONG. I should check things more closely when trying to give hints ...

So this should make it easier ....

In 1925 this company becomes Chrysler Corporation with Walter Chrysler as president

Buick.

(I assume that your source is a book titled: Automobile Encyclopedia, of which I have a Dutch translation. If that's the case I will abstain from further participation) :) :)

Actually this answer this wrong, and very wrong too. Chrysler worked until 1920 for Buick, and then left in a row. According to my source there are two options of what the logo really is, either Chalmers or Maxwell. Furthermore my book does not give all the badges so I will continue :)

[NoOne]

DeSoto

[Matra et Alpine]

Maxwell Motor Company ?

Well done!!

Here's the full badge and the next anonymous one :)

[Matra et Alpine]

Actually this answer this wrong, and very wrong too. Chrysler worked until 1920 for Buick, and then left in a row. According to my source there are two options of what the logo really is, either Chalmers or Maxwell. Furthermore my book does not give all the badges so I will continue :)
Couple of sources, the text I posted was trimmed from http://www.ozmopars.50megs.com/chryslerhistory.htm
And confirmed in http://www.chryslerclub.org/histry.htm

After leaving Buick, Chrysler joined Maxwell to restore it to healthy condition and went on to be renamed Chryserl Corp.

[henk4]

Couple of sources, the text I posted was trimmed from http://www.ozmopars.50megs.com/chryslerhistory.htm
And confirmed in http://www.chryslerclub.org/histry.htm

After leaving Buick, Chrysler joined Maxwell to restore it to healthy condition and went on to be renamed Chryserl Corp.

According to my "source" Chrysler, after he fell out with Buick, hired three engineers in 1920 to develop a car along his ideas. For this purpose he made available an old Chalmers factory. (could it be that the translators gave a free interpretation of the Maxwell-Chambers company or was there really a company called Chalmers. At least that name lives in the Allis-Chalmers tractor factory). In 1923 the result of the effort was the Chrysler Six, of which in the first year a 50 mln US$ orderbook could be registered. In 1925 the old Maxwell car was replaced by the Chrysler Four.
Anyway, I' ll continue to play. :)

just checked your source, and it appears that "Chambers" is an invention of the translators.

[baddabang]

is it from chrysler :)

[Misho]

thats not Aston Martin, is it ?!!

[Matra et Alpine]

is it from chrysler :)
NO, but it is American - and one of the few which didn't become part of Chrysler, GM or Ford :)
In checking history I found that early cars had the slogan Guaranteed for Life on the car nameplate. Maybe that's why they went bust :)

[MrVette83]

Auburn?

[MrVette83]

Cord? Hudson?

[Matra et Alpine]

Cord? Hudson?
no.no.

[MrVette83]

no.no.

dang it

[MrVette83]

Packard?

[Matra et Alpine]

Packard?
nope !!

[MrVette83]

nope !!

I'll give it to ya man, these are pretty tricky.

[henk4]

Graham Paige

[Batmobile_Turbo]

cord?
pakard?
oakland?
studebaker?

[MrVette83]

cord?
pakard?
oakland?
studebaker?

Well, he's already said no to Cord and Packard, but it could be one of the other two.

[baddabang]

austin
esperante

[Matra et Alpine]

One BIG NO to ever guess so far.

Some more hints .....

Through the years ********** participated in all types of competition. Noteworthy events included: around-the-world endurance trials (1910-1912), visit to all the state capitols (1916), 1932 Indianapolis 500 race (finished 5th) and many local endurance-type competitions.
The first police car for Detroit was a 1910 *********. The US Army used **********in WW I as General staff cars to visit the front lines, and as ambulances. Train/car race from Capetown to Johannesburg, South Africa in 1924 (Train won the race). Train/car rematch race in 1990, (Car won this time).

I love the last part. It raises the question if this was because the roads were better or the rails and trains worse :)

[MrVette83]

Wyllis? or willys however it's spelled.

[Matra et Alpine]

Wyllis? or willys however it's spelled.
nope :)
This company was originally based in Detroit, Mi

[henk4]

detroit electric?

[Matra et Alpine]

detroit electric?
ONLY this once, coz it was easier to find another logo for the same company than come up with more facts to help :) ....

[MrVette83]

Hupmobile?

[henk4]

ONLY this once, coz it was easier to find another logo for the same company than come up with more facts to help :) ....


Is it :confused: :confused: a Hupmobile???

[Matra et Alpine]

Hupmobile?
MrVette gets it first.

Wow, that was a hard one.
Mind you the original surrounding DOES look like many that others listed as guesses ( hints for someof the later ones :) )

As usual, here's the Hupmobile badge and the next one to guess.
( OK, I've taken them out of order to give an easier one this time - I hope !!!! )

[MrVette83]

from you my initial guess is Alpine, but we shall soon see i guess.

[henk4]

from you my initial guess is Alpine, but we shall soon see i guess.

No sweat, you win again! It's just a matter of timing and time zones, for the next one you'r on your own because I'm going to sleep.

[MrVette83]

No sweat, you win again! It's just a matter of timing and time zones, for the next one you'r on your own because I'm going to sleep.

that's cool man, I'm not neccasarily trying to race or nuttin, just doin this for the fun of it.

[Matra et Alpine]

from you my initial guess is Alpine, but we shall soon see i guess.
Sweet dreams Henk !!!!
Well done, that was a wee bit too easy, huh, given my avatar :)
Here's the next one ....

[Egg Nog]

Sweet dreams Henk !!!!
Well done, that was a wee bit too easy, huh, given my avatar :)
Here's the next one ....

Alpine and Bertone.

[Matra et Alpine]

Alpine and Bertone.
Yep. Bertone. ( Alpine was the original logo for the previosu guess :) )

So here's the complete Bertone logo and the next one to guess.

[Spastik_Roach]

I'll take a shot at it and guess Jenson?

[IBrake4Rainbows]

It looks reliatively modern, but i'll guess that it's either Jiottoor Jimenez.

[Matra et Alpine]

ooooh, another good one :)
all wrong so far :)

Hint - that is NOT a "J" :) :)

[Batmobile_Turbo]

Imperial?
Innocenti?
International Charette?
International Harvester?
Invicta?
Isdera?
Iso?
Isotta-Fraschini?

[Matra et Alpine]

Imperial?
Innocenti?
International Charette?
International Harvester?
Invicta?
Isdera?
Iso?
Isotta-Fraschini?
Gotta give you that one.
But it looked like you did a google search on cars starting with I :) :)

Anyway, answer and bext one .....

[cls12vg30]

Hmm looks French...

Renault?
Peugot?

[MrVette83]

Citroen?
Early Alfa?

[Batmobile_Turbo]

renult?
alpine?
matra?
venturi?
peugot?
buggati?
citroen?

[Matra et Alpine]

renult?
alpine?
matra?
venturi?
peugot?
buggati?
citroen?

Sorry bat' , your google search fro French cara manufacturers wasn't complete :)

None of those, but it IS French ( the flag is a giveaway )
Think older !!!!!

[Batmobile_Turbo]

Facel Vega

[Matra et Alpine]

Facel Vega
nope.

As it's an older one you get one more hint ....

The name was derived from surnames of its founders: Lamy and Akar.

[carlover]

Possibly Amilcar?

[MrVette83]

Possibly Amilcar?

I believe you are correct carlover, let's just wait for the official word.

[Egg Nog]

Wow, that was a tough one. I must say, for the sake of honesty, that I had to do a google search to find the answer. :) Amilcar is correct.

[Matra et Alpine]

Possibly Amilcar?
well done carlover, you were first.

Here's the logo and the next .....

[Need4Speed]

is it Studebaker?

[Matra et Alpine]

is it Studebaker?
no.

Nice piece of history on this make....

It may have been the true winner of the first Indy 500 :)

[Spastik_Roach]

I'll take a shot and say Plymouth?

I don't have much of a clue about Indy racing, so I don't know.

[henk4]

Marmon

[Matra et Alpine]

Marmon
Ray Harroun in his Marmon is the credited winner of the 1911 Indy 500.
But it was challenged on the day.
The story behind what went on next is astonishing.
( I'll post the link after the answer is guessed for car history freaks like me :) )
So who else was involved????

[henk4]

Lozier, driver Mulford,
further a Fiat and a Mercedes, but those are not the badges. BTW You are starting this thing very early in the morning, do you have internet in your commuter car? :)

[Matra et Alpine]

Lozier, driver Mulford,
further a Fiat and a Mercedes, but those are not the badges. BTW You are starting this thing very early in the morning, do you have internet in your commuter car? :)
Youngest is goign in to school for "study support" over the Easter break - major exams in 2 months - so I'm up getting breakfast and been told she doesn't need to be in for another hour.... so just wasting some time :)

Anyway, yep, Lazier.
Here's the promised link - http://www.na-motorsports.com/Journal/1997/1/RussellJ.html - and interesting timing method and a great story which paints a totally disorganised picture of the first Indy :)

I think everyone knows the script, Here's the complete badge and the new one to go for :)

[henk4]

Anyway, yep, Lazier.
Here's the promised link - http://www.na-motorsports.com/Journal/1997/1/RussellJ.html - and interesting timing method and a great story which paints a totally disorganised picture of the first Indy :)

Very interesting story, this makes the alleged FIA manipulations look like child play!!

new badge: DB (Deutsch & Bonnet) ??

[Matra et Alpine]

Very interesting story, this makes the alleged FIA manipulations look like child play!! I also hadn;t realised their was collusion to block Clark winning Indy - need to go read more on that one :)

new badge: DB (Deutsch & Bonnet) ??
nope :) Closer to home (mine)

[henk4]

Dellow?

[Matra et Alpine]

Dellow?
Nope.
But intersting read on the company, hadn't heard of them before :)

This one is a MUCH bigger concern :)

An earlier hint could be misleading ....
I *think* this is the badge from the English company but the main company is German and VERY multinational !!
So maybe the badge is the German firm. .... sorry.
( I'll go try to find out in the meantime ...... )

[henk4]

Nope.
But intersting read on the company, hadn't heard of them before :)

This one is a MUCH bigger concern :)

An earlier hint could be misleading ....
I *think* this is the badge from the English company but the main company is German and VERY multinational !!
So maybe the badge is the German firm. .... sorry.
( I'll go try to find out in the meantime ...... )

This is very confusing. It's certainly not the VW badge, and I can't think of any other German company that would have a factory in the UK since BMW withdrew.

[Matra et Alpine]

This is very confusing. It's certainly not the VW badge, and I can't think of any other German company that would have a factory in the UK since BMW withdrew.
Go back over a 110 years !!
UK company set up to own the UK patent rights and use an engine in their own designed bodies .....

[henk4]

Daimler

[Matra et Alpine]

Daimler
Yep.
Sorry about the early confusion re nationality.
If I'd said German the first time I think a few would have got it.
( But still not sure if THIS badge is German or UK :) )

Next ....

[EvilPaladin]

Easy one, Matra.

[Matra et Alpine]

Easy one, Matra.

Well done.

Next one - another easy one and then back to the original order :)

[Niko_Fx]

Well done.

Next one - another easy one and then back to the original order :)

Land Rover

[Matra et Alpine]

Land Rover
Congrats Niko.

next ..... :)

[henk4]

Pfft, Adler.

[Matra et Alpine]

Pfft, Adler.
Another one to henk :)

Next ........
............ are we all still having fun ?
Is this worth going on with ??

[cls12vg30]

Don't have a clue on the latest one, but this is very interesting. I think you should continue as long as you can keep dredging up obscure logos.

[henk4]

Yes please continue, the Adler I knew because my father had a type writer (a post war product of the same firm). The new one I have no clue.

[Matra et Alpine]

This one is an obscure British one so a big help is in order ....

The manufacturer was a supplier to Jaguar. Production of the xxxxxxx was halted when Jaguar gave the company an ultimatum; if they continued to market a rival sportscar to the XK 120, Jaguar would go elsewhere for the many components they supplied.

They originally built scooters. When their first car was exhibited at the 1954 Motor Show it was called the most beautiful car on display and the designer described as a genius.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Is it Harington?

[Wouter Melissen]

Swallow
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=1017

[Matra et Alpine]

Swallow
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=1017
Didn't realise you had the Doretti on UCP :)
Congrats.

Here it is and the next one .....

[Suka]

I have no idea, i could only get it if you started posting Kits badges.

[Matra et Alpine]

I have no idea, i could only get it if you started posting Kits badges.
Just for you , I checked :)

There are 5 UK kit badges in the series.

The question is, do you stay tuned, guess and learn on the others till those pop up.
( No, I'm not going to post them all next, it's too much hassle to post them out of order :) )
The problem with kits, is there are SO many of them and most of them don't survive long or don't produce many cars. And they definately struggle coming up with badges - most are boring :)
And so many are hard to anonimise. Take the letters GTM out and what have you got - a circle !!! I think that would be unfair :) At least with the badges I've got here, even though anonimised there is still a HINT as to what the vehicle is !!!

[Suka]

Which ones are kit badges?

[Matra et Alpine]

Which ones are kit badges?
None of the ones so far ( sore point, EVERYONE asks if the matra bagheera is a kit at every show and track day it's been at - grrrrrrrr )

If you're asking me to tell you which ones are coming ... you don't really expect me to tell you that do you ? That would take away the challenge :)

[Suka]

No i thought you meant that 5 that have been posted so far are kits, carry on with the comp its great!

[henk4]

before the Americans wake up, DeSoto

[Matra et Alpine]

before the Americans wake up, DeSoto
Another one to henk.

Here goes .....

[henk4]

Singer?

[Matra et Alpine]

Singer?
Nope.

Wow, over 1000 views on this thread already.

Doesn't time fly when you're having fun :)

Anyway, this could be a hard one.

So an early hint ....is a world leader in the design and production of high-performance custom chassis for Class-A motorhomes and fire trucks in the US.
( I never said they were only cars :) )

[MrVette83]

Prevost is my guess at the moment, altho it's incorrect.

[Matra et Alpine]

Prevost is my guess at the moment, altho it's incorrect.
Starts with S

[MrVette83]

I assumed it did, was merely putting my 2-cents worth in.

Southwind?

[Spastik_Roach]

You are henktastic Henk4! I don't have a clue with this one. Is it Caravan and co?

[Matra et Alpine]

You are henktastic Henk4! I don't have a clue with this one. Is it Caravan and co?He has been pretty good with these.
But struggling with this one too.
Not Caravan.
Starts with an S was a hint already given.
This is a modern company, headquarters are in Charlotte, MI.

[carlover]

I know this because I live in Michigan, it's Spartan. :cool:

[Matra et Alpine]

I know this because I live in Michigan, it's Spartan. :cool:
OK, so that hint was WAY to easy for you :)

Well done.

Next ......

[henk4]

Thanks for the praise I'm getting, but this one, like the previous, no clue at all. I thought it was a Skoda badge, but it isn't.

[Spastik_Roach]

It isn't Dacia is it?

[Suka]

RKC? Long shot but worth a guess.

[Matra et Alpine]

RKC? Long shot but worth a guess.
no. Come on Suka, I'm looking to you for this one -noe THERE is the biggest hint :)

Anyway, some more ...

Company started by a SCOT :) - James Alistair McIntyre - in 1973.
Company closed in 1995 after approx 3000 xxxxxxxs were sold.
Oddly over 10% of all production went to Holland - so come on Wouter/henk get the thinking caps on :)

[Wouter Melissen]

That's obviously a Spartan.

[Suka]

I honestly have no idea!? Some thing inside me says that i know but i dont think i do.

[Suka]

Yeah thats Spartan Kit cars. I knew i recognised it.

[Matra et Alpine]

That's obviously a Spartan.
Hah, I thought the same name might have put some folks off and triggered for others :)

Well done Spartan Kit Cars......

[Matra et Alpine]

Wow, is this one jsut too hard or has everyone lost interest ??

No point in me posting the rest if it's not "flavour of the week" :(

Anyway, this is another British company.
A picture help this time.
This model was built from 57-73 and 700 were made.....

It's the blue badge with the flying figure. Guesses ????

[henk4]

turner?

[Matra et Alpine]

turner?
No, but the cars are similar - the problem with the many small manufacturers in the UK in the 50s and 60s - they all look alike :)
( and you've jsut given me another badge for later :) )

[Matra et Alpine]

was the vision of Air Vice Marshal Donald Bennett, a personality of the war years who headed the legendary Pathfinder Squadron.
( The logo starts to make sense now :) )

[EvilPaladin]

I think I got a book with this,
*looks for the book*
Fairthorpe ?

[henk4]

I think I got a book with this,
*looks for the book*
Fairthorpe ?

you are right, the car pictured is a Fairthorpe Electron Minor (how humble can one be).

[Matra et Alpine]

I think I got a book with this,
*looks for the book*
Fairthorpe ?
Congrats to EP !!!!

Here we go again :)

[EvilPaladin]

Hudson

[Matra et Alpine]

Hudson
Well done EvilPaladin.

Everyone knows the score by now ........

[henk4]

I think the first one is Hudson :)
The second does not ring a bell at all.

[Matra et Alpine]

Portugese manufacturer

[Egg Nog]

Uniao Metalo-Mecanica :D - UMM

[Matra et Alpine]

Uniao Metalo-Mecanica :D - UMM
Congrats Egg-Nog.

[carlover]

Looks like it's from the UK but other then that I've no clue.

[Matra et Alpine]

Looks like it's from the UK but other then that I've no clue.
But the name is not British :)

I had to go check.
The addition of the flag was later in the company history.
Original badge didn't have it.
Another hint .... that flag is BEHIND the bull too.
It reflects when the company moved from it's original base to this location.
( It is no United Kingdom )

[Suka]

Would that be from UK to Argentina?

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Could be from Britain to spain?????

[Matra et Alpine]

The orignal badge had NO flag.
The flag was added (I presume) when it moved to a region ( there's a hint there ) with this as their flag.
Don't know why it's not in the car badge, but the flag for that region I can find has a crown in the middle of the Union Flag. The bottom part of the flag is like waves.
So it didn't come from or go to UK.
A more exotic starting point.

[Matra et Alpine]

OK, the flag in the badge is a Canadian Territory ( state ? )

[junaman]

dus it hav nething to do with Kiribati?

[Matra et Alpine]

dus it hav nething to do with Kiribati?
Hey. thanks for the Geography lesson.
VERY similar ....
Kirbati flag ...
http://www.theflagshopcompany.com/products/flags/kiribatflag.gif
British Columbia flag ....
http://www.theodora.com/flags/new9/british_columbia-s.gif

[henk4]

Intermeccanica??

[Matra et Alpine]

Intermeccanica??
Phew, at last :)
Well don henk.

That was a hard one, the flag threw me, interesting history on the company if you go to their web site.

here is the complete badge and the new challenge.
Come on all you guys playing the "junior" version, get in here and start guessing :)

Equally give me some feedback please, is this a waste of my time ? Just trying my best to make UCP a bit more interesting and informative :(

[henk4]

Phew, at last :)
Well don henk.


Equally give me some feedback please, is this a waste of my time ? Just trying my best to make UCP a bit more interesting and informative :(

This was a very long shot, I googled for Canadian car makers and to my own surprise found Intermeccanica there, and located in BC. I thought they had died a long time ago in Italy.
Whether this is a waste of time is a philosophical issue. Are we on earth to guess badges? To look at carwebsites while the bathroom needs major refurbishment? Not necessarily but it increases the fun factor of life.

[Egg Nog]

OK, the flag in the badge is a Canadian Territory ( state ? )

Province. I live in British Columbia :)

By the way, this thread kicks serious amounts of ass. It's one of my favorites, keep up the good work.

[Matra et Alpine]

Province. I live in British Columbia :)
Sorry about that.

TWICE.

First for calling it a territory ....

second for you living there :)

[Spastik_Roach]

I say make a seperate forum for it, like with Egg Nogs What Is It Series, you are onto a winner here Matra!

[Egg Nog]

Sorry about that.

TWICE.

First for calling it a territory ....

second for you living there :)

Ouch. In truth though, BC is great. Vancouver is always voted among the best cities in the world to live in :)

It's well-known that BC has some of the world's best...uh..stuff...

[Spastik_Roach]

Like...LOOK! A TWO HEAD LLAMA! *points* *Runs*

[Mustang]

this is a great thread and i too think that it should have its own part of the fourm. well done keep it up.

+1

[Mustang]

Panhard et Levassor

[Matra et Alpine]

Panhard et Levassor
I'd have accepted Panhard.

A well done and first win for Mustang 123.

Next ......

[MrVette83]

Pierce Arrow?

[Mustang]

ok so i know that this is kinda cheating but MAZDA.

i am really struggking to try and figure this one out. :confused:

[MrVette83]

ok so i know that this is kinda cheating but MAZDA.

i am really struggking to try and figure this one out. :confused:

I understand. Some of these badges are quite dificult.

[Spastik_Roach]

since someone said Pierce Arrow i'm gunna take a shot and say Pace Arrow.

[MrVette83]

since someone said Pierce Arrow i'm gunna take a shot and say Pace Arrow.

Dang it, i think Pace Arrow was what I was thinking of. oops, well, congrats if you're correct.

[Matra et Alpine]

ooh, another hard one for you all to struggle over :)

OK, hint .... this company makes 4x4 whose capability is reportedly ONLY beaten by Land Rover :)
Established in 1941 to build trucks, military a main marketfor the 4x4s.

[dashers]

stab in the dark,hummer?

[junaman]

I was thinking about hummer

[Matra et Alpine]

I was thinking about hummer
Doesn't match the off-road capability of the LR, sorry :)

[NoOne]

I'll take a stab in the dark .... Willys?

[Spastik_Roach]

surely it will be Willys.

If its not, I guess Jeep

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Unimog?

I know this is a Mercedes, but does it have it's own brandname?

[Matra et Alpine]

Unimog?

I know this is a Mercedes, but does it have it's own brandname?
No, not jeep or Willys either.
Hmm, Unimog, I think it may have better off-road capability, I don't think the quote I used included special articulated chassis vehicles.
The quote was comparing 'passenger vehicles'.

They formed a new company in May 1999 with an Italian firm with a famous name for the distribution and sale of an off-road vehicle in Europe.
The army of a once major nation (BIG HINT!) used their vehicles for transport and off-road.

[Spastik_Roach]

I'm thinking Soviet Union?

[henk4]

GAZ probably

[Spastik_Roach]

YES! Its all coming together!

Is it Uaz?

[henk4]

YES! Its all coming together!

Is it Uaz?


Well, AZ stands for automobilni zavod (car factory) so it can be any letter in front. I thought it was G for Gorki, but it can also be U for Ural. I have been in those when in mongolia and they really stand out for a lack of confort but probably their off-road capabilities are quite good.

[Matra et Alpine]

YES! Its all coming together!

Is it Uaz?
Congrats to spastik_roach.
Lucky that henk went for the other factory in Russia :)
next ...........

[henk4]

goggomobil
or if you prefer Glas

[EvilPaladin]

henk4, you were faster than me(well, in fact I wasn't even on the Internet).

[byronleehk]

UAZ = Ulyanovsk Car Company :confused:, I always thought it was Ulyanovsak

[Matra et Alpine]

well done henk, getting in before the EvilPaladin can even log on - so he's only MildPaladin :)
Thanks also to byron - I wasn't even going to try typing the full name :) :)

So Goggomobil gets it and onto the next .....

[carlover]

Crown Victoria? (definetley wrong)

[Matra et Alpine]

Crown Victoria? (definetley wrong)
Correct !!!

.... DEFINATELY WRONG :)

[byronleehk]

Maserati :confused:

[Matra et Alpine]

Maserati :confused:
nope.

[Matra et Alpine]

Company is named after the founder and owner. He had a heavy accident with his own F1 car which let to his decision to stop car racing.

There, that should help ( but it's still a bit obscure - hey if you don't like it, go play the "Junior" version :) )

[henk4]

surtees??

[Suka]

Bonnier
Amon

[Ferrari Tifosi]

Brabbam?

[Matra et Alpine]

No.
None of the badges are race car manufacturers only.

Built great "supercars" and then later on 4x4s before ceasing production

The factory closed in 1982 but they did make an attempted comeback in F1 in 1990. And in 1992 they launched their last vehicle at the Geneva Motor Show.

[henk4]

costin-nathan?

[byronleehk]

Zagato :confused: :confused:

[Matra et Alpine]

No.

Would reading this help ?? http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ft00057.html

[byronleehk]

Dallara??

[henk4]

Monteverdi, I didn't know that he actually raced F1,

[Matra et Alpine]

Monteverdi, I didn't know that he actually raced F1,
Congrats, I have to admit I didn't realise either. I vaguely remembered the 1990 failed F1 team and was surprised when checking that to get all the company history.

Anyway, next one ....

[dashers]

It looks like the bentley logo perhaps??
and is the cross a reference to st georges flag,ie british car?

[Matra et Alpine]

It looks like the bentley logo perhaps??
and is the cross a reference to st georges flag,ie british car?
It is a British company - probably THE most traditional :)

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Invicta?

[Matra et Alpine]

Invicta?
Good guess .... but NO - but thanks for another logo for later on :)
This company is renowned for continuing to making one of it's models in the traditional way.

[IBrake4Rainbows]

Bristol?

[Matra et Alpine]

Bristol?
nope, another good guess though.
OK, this manufacturer still competes in sportscar and Le Mans races.
( Not Bentley )

[IBrake4Rainbows]

I'm not sure even if they are british but Lola?

[lfb666]

Congrats, I have to admit I didn't realise either. I vaguely remembered the 1990 failed F1 team and was surprised when checking that to get all the company history.

Anyway, next one ....


Morgan

[Matra et Alpine]

I'm not sure even if they are british but Lola?
No.
Again, none of the badges are from pure racing cars.
THey are/were ALL road cars, including this one.

[lfb666]

Morgan Motor Company

H.F.S. Morgan, the founder, in 1913.

[Spastik_Roach]

Damn I knew its Morgan! I wish I had got in earlier!

[Matra et Alpine]

Morgan
Sorry lfb, I was posting my 'no' reply as you were posting your correct guess :)
Well done - spastik_roach beaten out at the last minute :)

OK, here's the badge and the new one .....

[junaman]

Pininfarina

[Matra et Alpine]

Pininfarina

Well done Junaman......... see there are easy ones in this thread too.
( BTW, you should check over in the http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3116 Junior thread, they're struggling on one :) )

Next .....

[lfb666]

Well done Junaman......... see there are easy ones in this thread too.
( BTW, you should check over in the http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3116 Junior thread, they're struggling on one :) )

Next .....

Mercury

[Matra et Alpine]

Mercury
ON A ROLL !! Well done.

Next .....

[EvilPaladin]

What country ?

[Matra et Alpine]

What country ?
Italy.

[stratos]

Innocenti ?

i'm not sure .... :confused: :confused:

[Mustang]

intermecciania??

ISO??

isotta fraschini??

[Matra et Alpine]

Innocenti ?

i'm not sure .... :confused: :confused:

Don't know if I shoudl awards winning rights if you're not sure :)

Oh, hell, I'm in a good mood .....

[Mustang]

well done stratos :)

[EvilPaladin]

I didn't say Innocenti 'cause you've already posted another Innocenti badge.

[stratos]

thanks Mustang123 :)

[Matra et Alpine]

I didn't say Innocenti 'cause you've already posted another Innocenti badge.

and where in the rules did I say I wouldn't post more than one version of a company badge :evil laugh: ?

Sorry, EP, it was as I posted it I realised I'd 2 copies of Innocenti in the collection. Of course, now I'm going to add more 'historic' badges of the same company to make it even more difficult for the future :)

[Suka]

AutoBianci :D

[Matra et Alpine]

AutoBianci :D
To show that I'm really a nice guy ( though EvilPaladin probably thinks otherwise ), I'll give you that one Suka

AutoBianchi

[Suka]

Oh yeah! Typo. Rubbish proof reading.

[EvilPaladin]

And to prove you that French cars rules,
Venturi !

And, for those who read French, the signification of the Venturi logo (http://xavier.laville.free.fr/HISTOIRES/HISTLOGO/HISTLOGO.HTM).

[Matra et Alpine]

And to prove you that French cars rules,
Venturi !

And, for those who read French, the signification of the Venturi logo (http://xavier.laville.free.fr/HISTOIRES/HISTLOGO/HISTLOGO.HTM).

Only the French would put all that effort into a log and THEN tell us all about it :)

Well done EP.

Next ...........

[stratos]

volvo ?? :confused:

[lfb666]

Chrysler

[Matra et Alpine]

Chrysler
Well done lfb :)
BTW, no need to post the badge again. There is only ever one unknown badge and each one ends with the full badge shown along with the new one.
Just saving you time/space in the future :)

Congrats again.......

[MrVette83]

Jeep.

[Matra et Alpine]

Jeep.
yep, too easy that one :)
next .....

[MrVette83]

yep, too easy that one :)
next .....

Yep, esp. for an American :D

[henk4]

Abarth

[Egg Nog]

Beat me to it by five minutes :mad: ;)

Abarth.

[henk4]

Beat me to it by five minutes :mad: ;)

Abarth.

This is making me particularly happy. :)

[Matra et Alpine]

This is making me particularly happy. :)

Sounding a bit too "desperately competitive" there henk :)

Congrats.

Next ...........

[UK CARS]

??????
buggati

[DarkPhenix]

Bugatti?

[GT500]

Arf!

A little late, but yes Bugatti, you can see the backwards E, EB. ;)

[EvilPaladin]

Molsheim Car Company :D

[Matra et Alpine]

Well done to all.

I'll excuse EP :) no extra points as he didn't say whether it was Molsheim in Germany or France :)

[EvilPaladin]

In France obviously !

Ford ? ;)

[DarkPhenix]

Ford?? :)