Gt500

[rev440]

What do you think of the Car? I think the engine has a lot of potential. There are a couple boost only FGT's producing close to if not 800rwhp with a little work. The downside of the car is that it weighs 3800lbs. Theres already a company that has gotten one in the low 10's and soon to be 9's.

http://www.motore.com.au/images/2007ShelbyGT500.jpg]

[coolieman1220]

FORD, Fix Or Repair Daily
FORD, Found On Road Dead

thats all i must say. sorry, ur love mustangs i just don't. i amm anti ford

[baddabang]

I think its completly badass, and I'm personally a chevy guy. It is the only mustang I like though :D

[The_Canuck]

Too heavy...Mabye if you reduced the weight/rip half the car off. thats really the only way.

[2ndclasscitizen]

The reviews I've read said the weight really works against it, isn't that stable on rough roads and the brakes were a bit off, but on a nice bit of road, it's bloody quick. 500hp will solve a lot of problems :D

[rev440]

The brakes from what ive heard are pretty good. Its got 13 inch brembos in the front. But yes the weight is not good.

[Schmallz]

I saw one in person the other day, it sounded awesome, of coarse it was red, just like all the ones in the commercials.
Too bad most of my attention was on the masserati right behind it.:eek:

It seems like a good car, but it certainly needs improvement here and there.
I'd rather have an 08 cts-v coupe thank you.

[2ndclasscitizen]

The brakes from what ive heard are pretty good. Its got 13 inch brembos in the front. But yes the weight is not good.
It wasn't an ability issue, it was feel issue IIRC, though with a little fade as well. I'll have to dig up the mag and have a look.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

If it wasn't so fat, it wiould be much more appealing- same rule applies to women :p

[clutch-monkey]

If it wasn't so fat, it wiould be much more appealing- same rule applies to women :p
heh.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1011/whynocallsw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

I just threw up in my mouth a bit. Don't post your girlfriends on here, dude :D

[2ndclasscitizen]

^ Is that a bannable offence?

[clutch-monkey]

I just threw up in my mouth a bit. Don't post your girlfriends on here, dude :D
hey, it was you who recommended her :p
wondered why i had to pay quarantine.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

hey, it was you who recommended her :p
wondered why i had to pay quarantine.
Well, when she said she had more to love, and that she had love handles, I didn't expect handles from a cathedral door :p

[clutch-monkey]

Well, when she said she had more to love, and that she had love handles, I didn't expect handles from a cathedral door :p
i'm never trusting anything you ship over ever again.
took 5 strong men and 2 dozen harpoons kill it.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

i'm never trusting anything you ship over ever again.
took 5 strong men and 2 dozen harpoons kill it.
*cancels Silvestedt*

[SlickHolden]

heh.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1011/whynocallsw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Can i have her number??:P

[Quiggs]

I need to gouge out my eyes now, thanks.

[mclaren_crazy]

FORD, Fix Or Repair Daily
FORD, Found On Road Dead



First On Race Day

[mehrshadvr4]

i think it's ugly.the dash is full of cheap plastic and it's really heavy.it's close to 3900lbs.i'll take diffrent car for sure.

[Slicks]

i think it's ugly.the dash is full of cheap plastic and it's really heavy.it's close to 3900lbs.i'll take diffrent car for sure.
youve obveously never been in a post 04 mustang.

[Rockefella]

youve obveously never been in a post 04 mustang.
Yeah, like Slicks said.. the post '04 / FoxBody Mustangs have pretty nice interiors for the money. However, everything from '04 back to [insert 1900's] is horrid.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

youve obveously never been in a post 04 mustang.
The dash is still chock-a-block with cheap plastic, dude... :rolleyes:

And I should know. People do get them imported here. I sat in one which was yellow and had black stripes. Looked the bizz.

[Rockefella]

The dash is still chock-a-block with cheap plastic, dude... :rolleyes:

And I should know. People do get them imported here. I sat in one which was yellow and had black stripes. Looked the bizz.
Which is true, but it doesn't look TERRIBLE. They have to keep the car affordable, so the interior materials probably had to be kept to low prices.

[Quiggs]

I always made fun of my 2 friends with Mustangs. One of them was a 98, and the other was a 03. They both had exactly the same dashboard that was in the 94. And it was a hollow sounding piece of crap.

[Slicks]

Yeah, like Slicks said.. the post '04 / FoxBody Mustangs have pretty nice interiors for the money. However, everything from '04 back to [insert 1900's] is horrid.
I completely agree.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

I always made fun of my 2 friends with Mustangs. One of them was a 98, and the other was a 03. They both had exactly the same dashboard that was in the 94. And it was a hollow sounding piece of crap.
[kigango response]Fill it with concrete, duh.[/response]

[Mr.Tiv]

It's borderline bland. I think the main turn off is that solid rear axle. I'd like to see a lightweight current-gen Mustang with irs.

[Quiggs]

But then it wouldn't be a drag-oriented pony car.

[Slicks]

The dash is still chock-a-block with cheap plastic, dude... :rolleyes:

And I should know. People do get them imported here. I sat in one which was yellow and had black stripes. Looked the bizz.
No worse than any other car in the GTs segment.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

No worse than any other car in the GTs segment.
... If it's made in the US, maybe :rolleyes:

Take a look at a Ford Focus ST, or an Audi S3. Similar (just about) performance, cheaper/same prices here... and they both sport much nicer interiors.

[Slicks]

It's borderline bland. I think the main turn off is that solid rear axle. I'd like to see a lightweight current-gen Mustang with irs.
A solid axle really isnt that bad, its nothing like it used to be. Have you driven any recent (within the last 10 years) solid axle performance cars?

[Mr.Tiv]

But then it wouldn't be a drag-oriented pony car.
My point exactly. Ford needs something light that handles well. I assumed that the cheapest route to that is to make it out of the Mustang, but after realising just how heavy it is, it's probably easier to just make a proper car to begin with. or bring the Focus St2 here.

[Mr.Tiv]

A solid axle really isnt that bad, its nothing like it used to be. Have you driven any recent (within the last 10 years) solid axle performance cars?
I honestly can't say I have.

[kingofthering]

mmm... beggs for even larger brakes, racing seats, weight reduction, and larger exhaust. Or i could buy a used Z06.....

[Slicks]

... If it's made in the US, maybe :rolleyes:

How predictable, yeah lets just compare the price after its imported and taxed by your govornment, thats fair. :rolleyes:


Take a look at a Ford Focus ST, or an Audi S3. Similar (just about) performance, cheaper/same prices here... and they both sport much nicer interiors.
...and neither are sold here...

[Slicks]

I honestly can't say I have.
Didnt think so.
Go take a test drive in a new Mustang GT, older GT, or Camaro/Transam, you will be surprised I promise. :cool:

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

How predictable, yeah lets just compare the price after its imported and taxed by your govornment, thats fair. :rolleyes:

...and neither are sold here...
LOL@U :p

You obviously didn't check the pricing of an imported one. They go for as low as £17,995 here, which isn't bad. They go all the way up to £25,995, which is Audi S3 territory.

And you're ignoring my point about Euro interiors being fundamentally more ergonomic and aesthetically appealing.

[Quiggs]

And you're ignoring my point about the rest of the world's interiors being fundamentally more ergonomic and aesthetically appealing.
Fixed.

[Mr.Tiv]

Didnt think so.
Go take a test drive in a new Mustang GT, older GT, or Camaro/Transam, you will be surprised I promise. :cool:
Can anyone vouch for this? I suspect Slicks may be slightly biased, not that you're wrong, I like a second opinion before I go out of my way.

[Slicks]

And you're ignoring my point about Euro interiors being fundamentally more ergonomic and aesthetically appealing.
Yes, and at a price.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Yes, and at a price.
... As I have already pointed out, not really!!

Mustang price range: £17,995 - £25,995 + VAT (17.5%).

That makes the cheapest £21,144. And the most expensive £30,544.

Let me make this very clear.

Focus ST: Similar performance, £18,500 list (give or take a few beans...) 0-60 in 6.4 seconds, top speed of around 152mph, quite spacious.

Audi S3: Limited to 155mph, 0-60 in 5.9 seconds, around £26,000.

Both mentioned may not be the same price or size, but the S3 in my books qualifies as a contender with sharper handling, a nicer interior, faster, the same price as a (slower, nastier, dumber) fully tricked-out Mustang GT.

If you really want a true like-for-like, then go to an MG ZT V8. Same engine as your beloved Mustang. Beautiful interior- nicely executed, pretty classical touches. You can buy these brand new (still) for £15,995. And even when they were full price, they were £27,995.

Vauxhall Monaro- the cheapest version, which comes with a 5.7 V8, was £29,965. Nicer interior, but only just.

Read that twice. Then post back. Thank you. :)

[gtface]

Can anyone vouch for this? I suspect Slicks may be slightly biased, not that you're wrong, I like a second opinion before I go out of my way.
I drive an '02 Camaro SS, which has a solid rear axle. Mine also has the bilstein suspension upgrade (an SLP option). I would say for a 3800 pound pony car it handles pretty well. It definitely has a tendency to oversteer, but part of that is because I have kind of a lead foot and tend to hammer the throttle at every opporunity. With the TC turned off it's very easy to lose traction, but that's what you'd expect from a car with 345 horsepower. It certainly doesn't handle as well as my dad's 2002 corvette, but the vette is about 400 pounds lighter and has an independent rear suspension. Honestly though, even when I was driving my dad's car it was really easy to oversteer. For what it is the handling of the Camaro is good. The real joy of this car, though, comes from the acceleration you experience coming out of a turn. If handling is very important to you and you want a real sports car, a corvette is a better choice. I got the SS because it has more room for what I need and has more seats.

[Mr.Tiv]

I drive an '02 Camaro SS, which has a solid rear axle. Mine also has the bilstein suspension upgrade (an SLP option). I would say for a 3800 pound pony car it handles pretty well. It definitely has a tendency to oversteer, but part of that is because I have kind of a lead foot and tend to hammer the throttle at every opporunity. With the TC turned off it's very easy to lose traction, but that's what you'd expect from a car with 345 horsepower. It certainly doesn't handle as well as my dad's 2002 corvette, but the vette is about 400 pounds lighter and has an independent rear suspension. Honestly though, even when I was driving my dad's car it was really easy to oversteer. For what it is the handling of the Camaro is good. The real joy of this car, though, comes from the acceleration you experience coming out of a turn. If handling is very important to you and you want a real sports car, a corvette is a better choice. I got the SS because it has more room for what I need and has more seats.
Handling is very important to me. I prefer it to speed, for example wish I still had the 87 3 series BMW, even though the Crown Vic I was driving yesterday was faster.

[Slicks]

... As I have already pointed out, not really!!

Mustang price range: £17,995 - £25,995 + VAT (17.5%).

That makes the cheapest £21,144. And the most expensive £30,544.

Let me make this very clear.

Focus ST: Similar performance, £18,500 list (give or take a few beans...) 0-60 in 6.4 seconds, top speed of around 152mph, quite spacious.

Audi S3: Limited to 155mph, 0-60 in 5.9 seconds, around £26,000.

Both mentioned may not be the same price or size, but the S3 in my books qualifies as a contender with sharper handling, a nicer interior, faster, the same price as a (slower, nastier, dumber) fully tricked-out Mustang GT.

If you really want a true like-for-like, then go to an MG ZT V8. Same engine as your beloved Mustang. Beautiful interior- nicely executed, pretty classical touches. You can buy these brand new (still) for £15,995. And even when they were full price, they were £27,995.

Vauxhall Monaro- the cheapest version, which comes with a 5.7 V8, was £29,965. Nicer interior, but only just.

Read that twice. Then post back. Thank you. :)
I guess I wasnt clear the first time, the GT is an order import and limited no? That would certainly raise the price. Its really not supposed to be a big seller on the euro market. Doesnt the UK tax displacement and or car weight as well?
In the US market, its up to par with anything in its price range.*

[Slicks]

Handling is very important to me. I prefer it to speed, for example wish I still had the 87 3 series BMW, even though the Crown Vic I was driving yesterday was faster.
What year 'vic was it?
edit: Camaro holds its own on the track:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=155
"Out on the open road, the SS proves it's more than just a straight-line performer. Thanks to wider 275/40ZR-17 Goodyear F1 tires, a stiffer shock/spring package and a larger front anti-roll bar than the standard Camaro, the SS handles exceedingly well for a car considered by many as "low-tech." Overall grip and predictability are good, and after getting over the rather high ride height, you can push the car with an increased degree of confidence.

At the racetrack, the SS raised more than a few eyebrows. Everyone expected it to rocket down the straights, but it ended up cornering well too — proof that high tech isn't necessarily the only show in town. While it certainly could work better over bumps and through quick transitions, the SS is generally stable, predictable and as such, surprisingly fast. Grip doesn't measure up to the sticks-like-glue adhesion of the Z06, but with less power, it's not as big an issue."

[Mr.Tiv]

It was a 2003

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

I guess I wasnt clear the first time, the GT is an order import and limited no? That would certainly raise the price. Its really not supposed to be a big seller on the euro market. Doesnt the UK tax displacement and or car weight as well?
In the US market, its up to par with anything in its price range.*
It doesn't make that much of a difference, to be honest. You can just change the '£' sign for a '$' sign and you have the American price... a Nissan 350Z (its closest competitor here) is $48,000 here. Not really cheap. If you want the dollaridoos for a 'Stang, it's $33k-$48k.

However, all prices here are relative... in a way. A McDonalds is $10, a bottle of Coke at college (half a litre) is $1.80... you get the picture.

[clutch-monkey]

^ yeah, they brought in an '05 saleen mustang and it cost the owner $125,000 AUD. So yeah, you can see why most people find soemthing else to do with their money..

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

^ yeah, they brought in an '05 saleen mustang and it cost the owner $125,000 AUD. So yeah, you can see why most people find soemthing else to do with their money..
ROFLCOPTER :D

£50,000?!

How much is an HSV GTO over there in $AU?!

[clutch-monkey]

ROFLCOPTER :D

£50,000?!

How much is an HSV GTO over there in $AU?!
about $30,000 less than that saleen - and it's faster, more comfortable, better built etc etc.. a mustang at that price just doesn't make sense. (you could buy a HSV GTO and a renault clio sport for the price of the saleen..)
But American auto companies seem disinterested in exporting their cars which is why it costs so much..no RHD, no supporting dealerships blah blah

[mehrshadvr4]

youve obveously never been in a post 04 mustang.

this thread is about gt500 and i said inside looks cheap.i don't know about othere years.

[092326001]

the gt500 is great
now they shoould get replace roof,hood and trunk lid with carbon parts to reduce weight and drop center of gravity
it could do with more power though to put it in viper/z06 territory
wonder hoe aerodynamic it is, it looks menacing and mean and really aggressive but also looks kind of like a brick

oh and ceramic brakes from brembo would complete the package

[2ndclasscitizen]

about $30,000 less than that saleen - and it's faster, more comfortable, better built etc etc.. a mustang at that price just doesn't make sense. (you could buy a HSV GTO and a renault clio sport for the price of the saleen..)
But American auto companies seem disinterested in exporting their cars which is why it costs so much..no RHD, no supporting dealerships blah blah
Or you could buy a new SS...0-100kmh in 5.2 and a low 13s pass...for $45k...:D

[SlickHolden]

Ad some biggies on that and speak to tom:D

[Slicks]

this thread is about gt500 and i said inside looks cheap.i don't know about othere years.
Post 04 Mustangs means after 2004, i.e. 2005 and newer.
Youve never sat in one have you? Pictures do very little

[2ndclasscitizen]

Ad some biggies on that and speak to tom:D
:D :D :D Mmm, superchargers

[mehrshadvr4]

Post 04 Mustangs means after 2004, i.e. 2005 and newer.
Youve never sat in one have you? Pictures do very little

i haven't ,but i was checking out one in parking lot.the dash looks like cheap plastic that has been painted.lol

[ezekielrage123]

I would personally take the GT500E http://www.uniqueperformance.com, over the new GT500. I loved the movie Gone in Sixty Seconds. This new GT500 seems bulky, and heavy, and what happened to the classic fog lights?

[Slicks]

i haven't ,but i was checking out one in parking lot.the dash looks like cheap plastic that has been painted.lol
Its really not, its no worse than a 350Z.

[Rockefella]

Its really not, its no worse than a 350Z.
Idk, I think the 350z has an advantage over the Mustang interior-wise, but not by much.

[SlickHolden]

:D :D :D Mmm, superchargers
You read my mind:D sub 4 here we come:D

[rev440]

Idk, I think the 350z has an advantage over the Mustang interior-wise, but not by much.

The 03/04 cobra has pretty cool interior. Other then the plastic it has leather seats with seude inserts. When getting after it the seats keep you in your place and are pretty dam nice. I can only imagine the GT500 has a cooler interior.

[092326001]

350Z is awesome can't wait for GT-S version to come out, hopefully
i think it's much better than the mustang