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bk4uyeah
04-09-2004, 07:25 AM
I am aware there has been a thread for the smallest V8 (a 3.8L ford Taurus, I believe) But what is the smallest V12? The first that came to mind to me is the 4.4L Ferrari Daytona

Matra et Alpine
04-09-2004, 07:52 AM
I am aware there has been a thread for the smallest V8 (a 3.8L ford Taurus, I believe) But what is the smallest V12? The first that came to mind to me is the 4.4L Ferrari Daytona
Do you mean only in current production ?
Do bike engines count ??

bk4uyeah
04-09-2004, 08:00 AM
Sorry not to clarify, but current or not, but preferably modern, and not race car or bike.

henk4
04-09-2004, 08:16 AM
The 166 Ferrari engine (2 litres) springs to mind (from the late forties, early fifties, which was not designed as a racing engine, but that did not stop people racing with it. Probably there are smaller examples

Italianspeed
04-09-2004, 09:43 AM
The first car I thought of was the 63' Ferrari 250 Testarossa, which displaces just under 3 liters. But after careful investigation, I read about an old Maserati, the Tipo S 150 that has V12 displacing only 1.5 liters. Most modern inline 4's displace another half liter over that. Crazy.

henk4
04-09-2004, 09:59 AM
I doubt the story about the Maserati, Tipo 150S is a simple four pot, while 200, 250 and 300 version were six cylinders.

Ferrari Tifosi
04-10-2004, 06:34 PM
Ferrari's first Grand Prix car, the 125 F1, used a 1.5 liter supercharged V12.

henk4
04-10-2004, 11:48 PM
Ferrari's first Grand Prix car, the 125 F1, used a 1.5 liter supercharged V12.

I knew that but the original question specified not to mention racing engines. :)

Ferrari Tifosi
04-11-2004, 08:15 AM
I knew that but the original question specified not to mention racing engines. :)

oh, my mistake. But now thinking about it, the first production Ferrari, the 125 S, had a 1.5 liter V12 as well (non-supercharged).

henk4
04-11-2004, 01:38 PM
oh, my mistake. But now thinking about it, the first production Ferrari, the 125 S, had a 1.5 liter V12 as well (non-supercharged).
true, but it had a very limited production run and changed to the 166 version quite rapidly.

thinker
04-11-2004, 02:13 PM
do u guys know what the cheapest v12 car is currently? (for purchase in america)

cls12vg30
04-14-2004, 08:54 AM
You could probably get a used late-'80s Jaguar XJS for pretty cheap if you can find one....but you'd have to buy a dog to go with it......so you don't have to walk alone.

Coventrysucks
04-14-2004, 04:57 PM
You could probably get a used late-'80s Jaguar XJS for pretty cheap if you can find one....but you'd have to buy a dog to go with it......so you don't have to walk alone.

I saw a 5.3 XJS convertible for £5000 ($9000US). You could probably get cheaper though, as it was in quite good condition.