HELP!!! Which car should i get, buying it in less than 24 hours!!

[bmwpower]

Well here's how it goes. My dad is in a real hurry to buy a new car and he wants to go down tmr and put a down payment. I need your help deciding people. The one's were looking at is 2007 323i vs. 2007 G35 (design was encahnced from 2006)

Here are the pros/cons for each car tell me what you guys think

BMW 323i
http://bmw.ca/com/en/index_highend.html
pros
-It's a BMW =)
-It has a really refined ride, test drove it at 120 km felt like we were doing 50.
-Less maintainance, oil change is every 25000 km vs 5-6000 for infinity, brakes also need less work
-Run-flats although not too big of a deal

Cons
-The car looks cheap
-The interior is leatherette, not even real leather
-plastics on the inside are again cheap

Infinity G35
http://infiniti.ca/en/models/g35_sedan/overview.html
Pros
-306 hp engine
-Gorgeous dual exhaust
-17' rims
-great interior space
- real leather and more functional instrument panel
-nice engine note

Cons
-5 speed auto vs. 6 speed tiptronic in BMW
-2 grand more
-Suspension has less give, you feel more bumps in the road

We did consider other cars in this class but really it came down to these two..I realise i may have been biased, but you guys probably know plenty more about the cars then i do anyway, this was just the impression i got from a test drive and some time spent looking them both up. As always feel free to add any experiences or other info on the cars to help me make my decision.

[johnnynumfiv]

I'd go with the G35, 300hp, 100 more than the bmw. The extra power and the interior would do it for me.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Tiptronic is the Devil. Do not go there.

The Infiniti looks much sassier, and will always be a damn sight rarer.

[The_Canuck]

G35, new one for sure. Get it in red or black :D

[The_Canuck]

, and will always be a damn sight rarer.
Not here, they are fairly common.

[NSXType-R]

Wow, it's the new G35 huh?

I'd go for it, just because it's more powerful, better interior room, and while it's new, be rarer than the 3 series.

Edit- I just noticed that it's a 323, not a 325. Wow, that must be really lacking in power.

Go for the G35.

[rhsxc]

The Infiniti is just plain gorgeous

[blingbling]

what do you need in a car?

[digitalcraft]

The Nissan isn't bad, but you should go with a Mazda RX8 instead of either :P

[Juggs]

g35! my dream car right now....

[Rockefella]

BMW 335i \m/

Well, G35 is your best bet, even though everyone and their dog has one.

[carsnut]

infiniti all the way

[Vindesh17]

G35, you won't be disappointed :)


btw, its Infiniti.

[Ingolstadt]

Lexus IS350

[coolieman1220]

G35 is sexy as hell and great car. a 2003 sits in my garage, great car

[Spastik_Roach]

pros
-It's a BMW =)

Here is the reason why you should not buy a BMW.

[clutch-monkey]

Here is the reason why you should not buy a BMW.
yes... for the last couple years that has been a con, not a pro

[drakkie]

Definately not the BMW,just because it is a BMW :D

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Definately not the BMW,just because it is a BMW :D
God has spoken.

'And on the 6th day, God said: "Let there be Infiniti!"'

[adrenaline]

2007 G35.

[hec16]

G35 no doubt

[Ferrer]

Buy the Nissan. Sorry, Infinity... :p

[Waugh-terfall]

What about an Audi A4 3.2?

I'd take the Infiniti.

[Ferrer]

What about an Audi A4 3.2?

I'd take the Infiniti.
Since he has mentioned a 323i instead of a 330i I suppose that his budget doesn't really strech to an A4 3.2...

[Waugh-terfall]

This is true, I just looked up the BMW engine sizes...
Same they don't still do the A4 2.4...

G35 is such a good looking car, can't wait until we get them here next year.
Over here, every man and his dog and cat and hamster have bought BMW's

[6'bore]

Infinity.

Miles ahead of the BMW in many ways.

[Mr.Tiv]

Am I the only one that finds the Infiniti nauseatingly hideous?

[6'bore]

Am I the only one that finds the Infiniti nauseatingly hideous?
You sure are.

[Ferrer]

This is true, I just looked up the BMW engine sizes...
Same they don't still do the A4 2.4...

G35 is such a good looking car, can't wait until we get them here next year.
Over here, every man and his dog and cat and hamster have bought BMW's
There's the A4 2.0T which is a good choice, don't know if they sell it in the US nor it's price there if they do, though.

Am I the only one that finds the Infiniti nauseatingly hideous?
Anyway the 3-series isn't what we'd call beautiful either...

[Mr.Tiv]

Anyway the 3-series isn't what we'd call beautiful either...
No, but it isn't nearly as bad as the G35, at least to my eyes.

[Waugh-terfall]

There's the A4 2.0T which is a good choice, don't know if they sell it in the US nor it's price there if they do, though.

They do, and it starts at $28,240

[Rockefella]

Anyway the 3-series isn't what we'd call beautiful either...
I beg to differ Shooter. </Happy Gilmore>

The 335i coupe is pretty damn sexy in black with some tint. :)

[Ferrer]

I beg to differ Shooter. </Happy Gilmore>

The 335i coupe is pretty damn sexy in black with some tint. :)
I agree on the 3-series Coupe. However we were talking about the saloon, weren't we?

[Quiggs]

If you're looking at sedans of both, then I'd take neither, as there are way better looking cars out there.

Coupe makes it a lot more interesting, with the BMW nudging it out for me. I saw the aforementioned 335i coupe in black last week, and I had to slow down so he would pass me. Amazing car.

[Ferrer]

If you're looking at sedans of both, then I'd take neither, as there are way better looking cars out there.

Coupe makes it a lot more interesting, with the BMW nudging it out for me. I saw the aforementioned 335i coupe in black last week, and I had to slow down so he would pass me. Amazing car.
I agree with you when it comes to 4-door saloons the Alfa Romeo 159 and even the Audi A4 (despite that grille) are more beautiful, and definitely my choice in the segment. However if we are talking about coupes then yes the BMW is ahead of the Infinity, especially if the BMW has one of those sweet straight six engines...

[Waugh-terfall]

I agree with you when it comes to 4-door saloons the Alfa Romeo 159 and even the Audi A4 (despite that grille) are more beautiful, and definitely my choice in the segment. However if we are talking about coupes then yes the BMW is ahead of the Infinity, especially if the BMW has one of those sweet straight six engines...

And apparently Audi do the best V8 in the business. But unfortunately you cann't have an A4 bodystyle with a 4.2FSI V8 unless you buy an S4 or RS4...
Goddamnit

[Ferrer]

And apparently Audi do the best V8 in the business. But unfortunately you cann't have an A4 bodystyle with a 4.2FSI V8 unless you buy an S4 or RS4...
Goddamnit
The S4's engine doesn't have direct fuel injection. And anyway when it comes to "normal" engines (I mean not S/RS), BMW's powerplants are a lot better in my opinion.

EDIT And I have driven both, Audi's 3.2-litre FSI V6 and BMW's 3-litre straight six.

[Waugh-terfall]

The S4's engine doesn't have direct fuel injection. And anyway when it comes to "normal" engines (I mean not S/RS), BMW's powerplants are a lot better in my opinion.

EDIT And I have driven both, Audi's 3.2-litre FSI V6 and BMW's 3-litre straight six.

S4's doesn't?
Hmm, learn something new everyday

[h00t_h00t]

So, what did he buy?

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

S4's doesn't?
Hmm, learn something new everyday
No, it's just a regular 4.2 V8- not the FSI.

It's a more compact version of the one fitted to the previous generation's S6, and the same as the RS6's engine minus the blowers- so yeah, quite an old engine design minus Fuel Stratified Injection :)

[Waugh-terfall]

Aaah, so the engine fitted to my 28yr old cousins husband's 05 Audi A6 4.2V8 is an un-FSI unit?

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Aaah, so the engine fitted to my 28yr old cousins husband's 05 Audi A6 4.2V8 is an un-FSI unit?
Put simply...

No.

[Vaigra]

Aaah, so the engine fitted to my 28yr old cousins husband's 05 Audi A6 4.2V8 is an un-FSI unit?
No
Is my fathers brothers daughters husbands brothers uncle's 2005 S4 un-FSI'd too?

[Waugh-terfall]

Put simply...

No.

Ooooh, Ok.

'Surely romanticism outways smart' - Isn't that what I said the other day, and as I did, you spelt 'outweighs' wrong..:D


No
Is my fathers brothers daughters husbands brothers uncle's 2005 S4 un-FSI'd too?

Get out

[Waugh-terfall]

AHA!

My cousin does have a 4.2 V8 FSI in their A6

[Vaigra]

Get outThat's just rude. My question hasn't even been answered yet.

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Ooooh, Ok.

'Surely romanticism outways smart' - Isn't that what I said the other day, and as I did, you spelt 'outweighs' wrong..:D

No, you spelt 'outweighs' wrong, therefore making it ironic :p

And I don't think so- as the 4.2 FSI was only introduced in summer 2006.

[Waugh-terfall]

No, you spelt 'outweighs' wrong, therefore making it ironic :p

And I don't think so- as the 4.2 FSI was only introduced in summer 2006.

DAMN AND BOLLOCKS! I thought I was onto a winner there!

But hangon... The RS4 was released at the beginning of 2006! And I believe the new VW Golf GTI came out in 2005...

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

DAMN AND BOLLOCKS! I thought I was onto a winner there!

But hangon... The RS4 was released at the beginning of 2006! And I believe the new VW Golf GTI came out in 2005...
So? They need to spend money and time plumbing it for the A6- detuning it, too. It's got slightly less bhp, you see...

What difference does the GTi coming out in '05 make? The A2 1.6 FSI was around in 2002.

[Waugh-terfall]

So? They need to spend money and time plumbing it for the A6- detuning it, too. It's got slightly less bhp, you see...

What difference does the GTi coming out in '05 make? The A2 1.6 FSI was around in 2002.

Oooh..
Really? The A2 1.6FSI wasn't in my General Knowledge, I did not think to LOOK IT UP

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Oooh..
Really? The A2 1.6FSI wasn't in my General Knowledge, I did not think to LOOK IT UP
For someone who likes cars, I am genuinely surprised you missed the entire A2 fiasco. The windscreen wipers would rock the car from side to side. The 1.6 FSI was deemed the, erm, 'halo' model of the range. It also had a huge song and dance for the FSI inclusion.

[Waugh-terfall]

For someone who likes cars, I am genuinely surprised you missed the entire A2 fiasco. The windscreen wipers would rock the car from side to side. The 1.6 FSI was deemed the, erm, 'halo' model of the range. It also had a huge song and dance for the FSI inclusion.

Oooh, I knew the what the wipers did. My Dad told me when he borrowed one. I like A2's...

[Ingolstadt]

Very helpful discussion. lol ~

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

Very helpful discussion. lol ~
I hope you enjoyed reading it as much as I did writing it!

(Although I'm not sure how we got onto FSI from BMW vs. Infiniti...)

[Ingolstadt]

I do enjoy reading all this info.... its just funny when i suddenly thought :" hey, arent' we comparing BMW and Infiniti?"

So i guess it shows what really is, in the minds of people here. . . . :p

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

I do enjoy reading all this info.... its just funny when i suddenly thought :" hey, arent' we comparing BMW and Infiniti?"

So i guess it shows what really is, in the minds of people here. . . . :p
It goes something like this...

"BMW vs Infiniti... hmm... OK... yeah... Audi... Audi... Audi... Audi..."

[clutch-monkey]

It goes something like this...

"BMW vs Infiniti... hmm... OK... yeah... Audi... Audi... Audi... Audi..."
your mind usually proceeds to "audi audi audi..mmm boobs."

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

your mind usually proceeds to "audi audi audi..mmm boobs."
Great Sams think alike :D

[Waugh-terfall]

I was almost a Sam... And a James...

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

I was almost a Sam... And a James...
Now, that's just greedy.

[h00t_h00t]

So, what did he buy?
Still no answer?

[Waugh-terfall]

Now, that's just greedy.

Maybe I should say OR a James...