BMW E60 M5 Touring?????

[Biggie]

Im sorry is it just me or does anyone else on this forum think that the e60 Touring is a very pointless Wagon and kind of a pathetic way to make profit from the "M" name

[Rockefella]

Im sorry is it just me or does anyone else on this forum think that the e60 Touring is a very pointless Wagon and kind of a pathetic way to make profit from the "M" name
I think it's awesome.

[cmcpokey]

definitely think you are in the minority there

i do think its silly, but i would prefer one over the saloon

[TVR IS KING]

It's a great looking wagon, it's got a V10. What's your problem boy?
If it isn't exciting (which it is, you're just wrong), how is it pointless? I'm sure plenty of people want the premium 5-series and the space of a wagon. M5 buyers aren't all sports car drivers. They need the size and space, which is what deterred them from a 6-series.

[LandQuail]

I think the "cool factor" of a super-quick station wagon is through the roof. But, then again, it is heavier, so you picks' your poison there.

If it came down to it, I'd take the saloon (sedan, whatever), but the wagon does have its allure.

[TVRs4eva]

yea i think it has the same cool draw to it as the audi wagons too, sporty, fast, practical, and fun. i don't see anything wrong with it, and i'd certainly take it over my subaru legacy

[IWantAnAudiRS6]

RS6 Plus > M5 Touring for cool factor.

Also, the new M5 is far too techy. So, I wouldn't want one.

[LandQuail]

You know, it is a little too techy. I'll stick to my old Subaru, a lumbering dinosaur of a thing compared to the latest voonvervagvenv, which don't bother their drivers with the awful task of switching their own gears; a task quickly becoming viewed with the same disdain as churning your own butter.

[clutch-monkey]

RS6 Plus > M5 Touring for cool factor.

Also, the new M5 is far too techy. So, I wouldn't want one.
it's also slow. especially when corners are involved. i am curious how the RS6 compares to the M5 on anything resembling a race track, for comparison's sake.

[NSXType-R]

Well if the M5 sedan now has a manual, it wouldn't take long for the wagon version for a manual as well. I find it to be pretty cool. I'd only take it if there was a manual version though, so it's still the sedan for me still.

[F1_Master]

Then you think the E63 Wagon and RS4 Avant are pointless as well.

Good logic. :rolleyes:

[zeppelin]

I have nothing against high performance wagons, but I do think the 5 Series and its variants (M included) are unattractive.

The RS 4 Avant though, yes please.

[Vindesh17]

Don't really see your point. The wagon is great, although personally I'd take the sedan.

[SPHFerrari]

Well if the M5 sedan now has a manual, it wouldn't take long for the wagon version for a manual as well. I find it to be pretty cool. I'd only take it if there was a manual version though, so it's still the sedan for me still.
you cannot disable traction and stability control fully in the manual, making it significantly slower.

[Ingolstadt]

I'd get crazy wagons over anything else, they're the perfect blend of speed, space, ride height. PERFECT CARS.

[Ferrer]

RS6 Plus > M5 Touring for cool factor.

Also, the new M5 is far too techy. So, I wouldn't want one.
Objectively I'm with you.

Subjectively I can't help thinking it's ultra cool.

[Merrill]

I'd rather take the saloon. The tail of the wagon is just aweful. Audi on the other hand is the better choice.

[jediali]

I'd rather take the saloon. The tail of the wagon is just aweful. Audi on the other hand is the better choice.
the whole estate thing is apparently a UK thing. I agree that the M5 touring is a biy ugly but it will still sell

[Ferrer]

the whole estate thing is apparently a UK thing. I agree that the M5 touring is a biy ugly but it will still sell
You're mainly right. In south Europe saloons have the upper hand on estates, altough that trend is slowly reversing. I personally think that some estates are a better looking than their saloon counterparts, like the Audi A6 for instance.

[McReis]

If the concept behind the M5 is to have a family car with the performance and handling levels of a very special sports car, than the Touring makes total sense. That same family might welcome the extra space.


You know, it is a little too techy. I'll stick to my old Subaru, a lumbering dinosaur of a thing compared to the latest voonvervagvenv, which don't bother their drivers with the awful task of switching their own gears; a task quickly becoming viewed with the same disdain as churning your own butter.
With all respect for your great car, there's no possible comparison. They are different concepts and offer different kinds of pleasure.

[NSXType-R]

you cannot disable traction and stability control fully in the manual, making it significantly slower.

That's what you think... :D

It's true though, but I'm sure you can disable it... and your warrantee while you're at it. :D

That really does take the fun out of it. As I said, I'm stuck between this and the A6 wagon.

[Ingolstadt]

I saw the pics.... it's .... not..... very ..... nice.... thou

[john14]

I love the idea of the BMW E60 M5 Touring wagon. I would love a wagon with great power and performance since I had to drive my Dad's former '97 Korean Hyundai Lantra "Sports Wagon" :rolleyes: which only had enough power to tow 5 or 6 lemmings. :D

Lemming
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g157/mash569/Lemming.jpg

[MRR]

I love the idea of the BMW E60 M5 Touring wagon. I would love a wagon with great power and performance since I had to drive my Dad's former '97 Korean Hyundai Lantra "Sports Wagon" :rolleyes: which only had enough power to tow 5 or 6 lemmings. :D

Lemming
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g157/mash569/Lemming.jpg

Ok...

Anyway seems there is a new segment of super touring/estate cars with the M5 touring, the E63 AMG touring, the S6 (and soon RS6) Avant, and the RS4 avant. 5 years ago this was almost unheard of.

[Ferrer]

Ok...

Anyway seems there is a new segment of super touring/estate cars with the M5 touring, the E63 AMG touring, the S6 (and soon RS6) Avant, and the RS4 avant. 5 years ago this was almost unheard of.
Not so. The original superestate (BMW M5 Touring) came out in 1992, which beat the Audi RS2 by 2 years, that's 15 years ago.

[Pando]

I would take the Touring over the saloon any day. But it's still second to the RS4/S6/RS6 Avant's in my book.

[MRR]

Not so. The original superestate (BMW M5 Touring) came out in 1992, which beat the Audi RS2 by 2 years, that's 15 years ago.

Interesting. I mean I knew there was powerful estate cars but I had no idea BMW made one so long ago.

[NSXType-R]

Not so. The original superestate (BMW M5 Touring) came out in 1992, which beat the Audi RS2 by 2 years, that's 15 years ago.

Yeah, do you have any pictures of it?

(Or is it in the hideout?)

I'd love to see it.

[Ferrer]

Yeah, do you have any pictures of it?

(Or is it in the hideout?)

I'd love to see it.
I don't know if it's in the hideout, but here are a pair of pics.

[Piacki_117]

I think the M5 Touring is cool. Although I'd prefer own a RS4 Avant.

[NSXType-R]

I don't know if it's in the hideout, but here are a pair of pics.

Wow, that's sweet. Too bad wagons aren't that popular here in the states.

[Ferrer]

Actually I have found something interesting that predates the BMW M5 Toruing by 6 years. It's this, specially built for Giovanni Agnelli, Lancia Thema 8.32 SW. This could be considered the original super estate, and the first Ferrari 5-door Estate, sort of...

[NSXType-R]

That's really weird. Quirky Lancia's are cool, I guess. ;)

The only Ferrari four door wagon is with the Sultan of Brunei. :D

[McReis]

The only Ferrari four door wagon is with the Sultan of Brunei. :D
Sure, but the 8.32 is Ferrari engined too.

[MrKipling]

Can't believe it took two pages for someone to point out that BMW have been making them for years!

This will be the first to be available in RHD, though.

[Ferrer]

Can't believe it took two pages for someone to point out that BMW have been making them for years!

This will be the first to be available in RHD, though.
Well that's not exactly true. So far they have only make 2, the E34 and this E60. In fact it took them 12 years since they stopped making the first M5 Touring, to actually make another one.

[Lordblood]

It is an ugly little thing, yes. But hey, it's one of the better station wagons. If I were to have a station wagon, it would probably be that one.