Subaru Impreza STi MY 2008 [Archive] - Ultimatecarpage.com forums

lightweight

02-08-2007, 12:03 PM

New images of the upcoming Subaru STi have surfaced online, revealing the car’s new styling ahead of its debut at the New York Auto Show in April. Key changes for the new model are the introduction of the hatch body-style, and the new front-end styling that forgoes the unpopular airplane inspired grille treatment. All Impreza models, including the STi, will be roughly 130mm shorter than the current sedan, but will be 50mm wider overall.

The new STi will carry over the familiar 2.0L turbocharged boxer engine in most markets, however, the US will likely get a 2.5L version. An all-new 2.5L engine is currently being developed, which will deliver substantially more juice than the 300hp that’s expected from the 2.0L mill. Instead of increasing the top-end power, engineers have focused on improving the power delivery characteristics of the new range. Expect a much flatter torque curve and more oomph lower in the rev range.

Other mechanical changes include some major revisions so the symmetrical AWD system, including a modified Driver’s Control Centre Differential. The new Impreza is also expected to receive a new rear multi-link suspension set-up that should improve both the car’s handling and stability.

Source:
http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/subaru/preview-2008-subaru-impreza-sti/

The_Canuck

02-08-2007, 01:27 PM

Ugly as sin.

NSXType-R

02-08-2007, 02:17 PM

It's not that bad...

ferrarifreak013

02-08-2007, 02:20 PM

better than the evo x in my opinion

Imakuni

02-08-2007, 02:32 PM

Looks ok... lets hope the bumper/skirt arrangement changes around a bit.

Ferrer

02-08-2007, 02:37 PM

Considering it's a hatchback, the rear big wing makes it look stupid. Personally, I'm much more interested in the mainstream versions.

aNOBLEman

02-08-2007, 03:15 PM

The front looks much, much better in my opinion. I agree with Ferrer in that this hatchback model with the giant rear wing makes it look stupid. I would rather have the sedan version.

johnnyperl

02-08-2007, 03:46 PM

i don't think the front on this photoshop is accurate. The twin radiator intakes are not on the test cars and the upper grille is also different.

its nice to see that the Evo X will get DSG but its a shame that it will still only be available as a sedan, it would be nice to have that in the STi instead. For the STi, its nice to see a hatch, but its a shame to no longer have the proper wagon (or WRX at all for that matter).

MORE PHOTOSHOPS (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/205057/subaru_impreza.html)

NSXType-R

02-08-2007, 04:25 PM

The front looks much, much better in my opinion. I agree with Ferrer in that this hatchback model with the giant rear wing makes it look stupid. I would rather have the sedan version.

I think the chopper threw it in just for good measure. How would a wing as big as that actually help aerodynamically?

johnnyperl

02-08-2007, 04:45 PM

I think the chopper threw it in just for good measure. How would a wing as big as that actually help aerodynamically?
The wing doesnt look much bigger than the wing on the STi now. Many of the hatch-back style WRC cars have similar high mounted multi plane wings.

zeppelin

02-08-2007, 11:18 PM

The Skoda's wing would work nicely on a hatchback Evo STi. I personally love those big rally car wings.

NSXType-R

02-09-2007, 01:39 PM

The wing doesnt look much bigger than the wing on the STi now. Many of the hatch-back style WRC cars have similar high mounted multi plane wings.

Sure, but it looks like it was chopped directly from a current STI. I doubt the hatch STI will have such an ungainly wing, although I could be wrong.

PerfAdv

02-09-2007, 06:14 PM

Very many possibilities...

'08 Impreza (http://www.scoobyblog.com/2008-impreza/)

I'd like to have a better look at this one. Looks like a boisterous version of the Legacy. Would make for a good family resemblance.

johnnyperl

02-10-2007, 04:38 PM

PerfAdv

02-11-2007, 12:13 AM

I don't get MotorTrend and they didn't have it here:
http://www.motortrend.com/future/04/2008/index.html

Can scan? :)

johnnyperl

02-12-2007, 10:45 AM

I don't get MotorTrend and they didn't have it here:
http://www.motortrend.com/future/04/2008/index.html

Can scan? :)
I recycled it right after that post, sorry. But HERE (http://ozz.ru/index.php?PHPSESSID=cb5880b65b7c78c64a86a725083796 56&topic=17492.new) are some more, totally theoretical, photoshops.

NSXType-R

02-12-2007, 02:21 PM

Jeez, visibility back there is virtually nil. What's the point if that wing on that hatch?

Waugh-terfall

02-12-2007, 02:39 PM

I could strangle the people at Scoob. How can they make a hatchback Imprezza, it's fugly and just doesn't seem right in the slightest. SHUN Subaru, SHUUUUUUUN!

h00t_h00t

02-12-2007, 03:12 PM

A hatchback makes for a more sucessful road car.

NSXType-R

02-12-2007, 03:49 PM

I wish they would only keep the wing size sensible. There's absolutely no way to see out the rear window and it looks out of place. Also, it'd be nice if they brought back the coupe.

Ferrer

02-12-2007, 04:29 PM

A hatchback makes for a more sucessful road car.
In terms of sales, especially in Europe and concerning the mainstream versions this is true. The Lancer Evo might be very well known but I doubt the regular Lancer saloon sells at all in Europe...

PerfAdv

02-12-2007, 08:29 PM

I recycled it right after that post, sorry. But HERE (http://ozz.ru/index.php?PHPSESSID=cb5880b65b7c78c64a86a725083796 56&topic=17492.new) are some more, totally theoretical, photoshops.
Wow, you recycle car mags? I still have some from the 80s...

Overall it looks OK, but the front doesn't seem to go with the new look of Subaru, with the Tribeca-like snout.

NSXType-R

02-13-2007, 02:26 PM

Wow, you recycle car mags? I still have some from the 80s...

Overall it looks OK, but the front doesn't seem to go with the new look of Subaru, with the Tribeca-like snout.

That's ok, the Tribeca snout never worked anyway. :D

Waugh-terfall

02-13-2007, 02:44 PM

Tribeccas make my s**t look gorgeous...

jcp123

02-13-2007, 02:56 PM

Eh, it's okay. the front looks like a Toyota Sienna though, or maybe one of those new Mercedes roadsters with the big schnozz. Not attractive.

Anyone else think the Tribecas look an awful lot like Alfa-Romeos?

Waugh-terfall

02-13-2007, 02:57 PM

jcp123

02-13-2007, 03:01 PM

Which part, bout the Tribeca or the STi? Or both? :)

cmcpokey

02-13-2007, 03:01 PM

Anyone else think the Tribecas look an awful lot like Alfa-Romeos?

I can think of an aweful lot of people who'll kill you for saying that, lol:p

to be fair.. the tail lights look very Alfaish. And while I don't think jcp shoudl be killed, I think someone shoudl pay for that travesty.

Waugh-terfall

02-13-2007, 03:12 PM

Which part, bout the Tribeca or the STi? Or both? :)

The Tribecca, now go wash your mouth out with soap!:p

jcp123

02-13-2007, 03:35 PM

The Tribecca, now go wash your mouth out with soap!:p

Can't help the truth! :D Matter of fact, the first time I saw an ad for it, I seriously thought it was an Alfa, and that they were making a bid for the US market I hadn't heard of with this semi-SUV!

Ferrer

02-13-2007, 04:01 PM

Anyone else think the Tribecas look an awful lot like Alfa-Romeos?
If I'm not mistaken Andreas Zapatinas worked for Alfa Romeo before switching to Suabru. Apparently all his talent was lost in the transition. A bit like Chris Bangle then, who before making BMW's look like shit drew cars as beautiful as the Fiat Coupe.

aNOBLEman

02-13-2007, 07:18 PM

If I'm not mistaken Andreas Zapatinas worked for Alfa Romeo before switching to Suabru. Apparently all his talent was lost in the transition. A bit like Chris Bangle then, who before making BMW's look like shit drew cars as beautiful as the Fiat Coupe.

You are correct there (that Andreas Zapatinas worked for Alfa before coming to Subaru). The Tribeca snout is basically a flipped and slightly widened version of the trademark Alfa Romeo snout (and it makes it much uglier).

woodstock827

02-16-2007, 10:25 AM

looks alot better than the current Sti, but still prefer the EVO. The new EVO looks great imho.

jcp123

02-22-2007, 09:07 AM

You are correct there (that Andreas Zapatinas worked for Alfa before coming to Subaru). The Tribeca snout is basically a flipped and slightly widened version of the trademark Alfa Romeo snout (and it makes it much uglier).

Well that'd make sense then!!

mmm_aapls

04-02-2007, 04:26 AM

Well it look like subaru have lost their minds. 3 Days out from the release of new WRX, and some pictures of what appear to be a production model car appear on the net. It is horrible. And I thought it was going to be a hard choice between EVO X and new STi. Subaru just made my decision a whole lot easier.

http://home.arcor.de/goep3/indexStudien07.htm

http://mitglied.lycos.de/sondermodelle/5.jpg
http://mitglied.lycos.de/sondermodelle/6.jpg
http://mitglied.lycos.de/sondermodelle/7.jpg
http://mitglied.lycos.de/sondermodelle/4.jpg
http://mitglied.lycos.de/sondermodelle/8.jpg
http://mitglied.lycos.de/sondermodelle/9.jpg

IWantAnAudiRS6

04-02-2007, 04:37 AM

Awwww f**k. Why? Just why?

2ndclasscitizen

04-02-2007, 04:43 AM

Oh no, someone really fat sat on a 3!

I don't mind that first pic, the headlight/grille/chrome bits work really well together. But good the rest sucks badly. I can understand the need for a proper 5dr hatch, but it's no good if it's hideous.

At least the with the new generation engines WRX and STi will be quick. Assuming it hasn't added on some pork.

IBrake4Rainbows

04-02-2007, 04:49 AM

What the hell is that?

that is so. unbelievably. terrible.

Ferrer

04-02-2007, 07:59 AM

Very very ugly. I guess that the value of late current gen Imprezas has just gone up...

NSXType-R

04-02-2007, 08:13 AM

That's not so bad. It hasn't even come out yet. Is it even official?

Zytek_Fan

04-02-2007, 11:10 AM

Noooooooooooooooooo!

twinspark

04-02-2007, 11:46 AM

Equinox

04-02-2007, 01:42 PM

Well, maybe Subaru knows something we don't. Oh wait a minute, they do... How to take a nice car and turn it into S**T.

Have to go along with twinspark on this. I wonder how long it will take before someone does a facelift. I give it a few months.

scottie300z

04-02-2007, 04:02 PM

I dont like it.
oh well, i didnt have high hopes in it to begin with.

The_Canuck

04-02-2007, 05:58 PM

Subaru, you're ruining your brand.

IBrake4Rainbows

04-02-2007, 08:51 PM

Anyone Else thinks it sits Waaaaay to high?

Quiggs

04-03-2007, 06:59 AM

Anyone Else thinks it sits Waaaaay to high?

I think most cars sit way too high.

Fuglier than the last version, which was definitely fugly. Bring back the bug eye.

JRodrigues

04-03-2007, 08:48 AM

Back of the sedan:

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/2007/Q2/040220071519399294.jpg

Ferrer

04-03-2007, 11:02 AM

I don't know yet, the front seems somewhat old and reminds me of some of the Korean cars. Some parts of the back that I like, but there's something wrong with the rear bumper. I'm interested to see how long it takes before the first facelift this time.
Before the official presentation?

By the way apart from the general ugliness I also don't like the fact that it has lost Subaru's pillarless doors trademark.

Waugh-terfall

04-03-2007, 02:03 PM

twinspark

04-03-2007, 02:19 PM

Before the official presentation? If you were commenting my interest on when the first facelift comes, that was more of a throw at the current model being facelifted quite a few times during it's lifespan, than me wanting Subaru to fix the upcoming car asap.

Ferrer

04-03-2007, 02:22 PM

If you were commenting my interest on when the first facelift comes, that was more of a throw at the current model being facelifted quite a few times during it's lifespan, than me wanting Subaru to fix the upcoming car asap.
Mine was sarcasm too. ;)

h22a

04-03-2007, 11:57 PM

god damn that is an ugly pile of trash. They've slowly ruined the design from its incarnation back in 94(aus). I thought the bugeye and the existing model were fugly but this just takes it to another level. I really hope the evo destroys it in sales and subi go back to a more aggresive design.

2ndclasscitizen

04-04-2007, 01:06 AM

Anyone know when we'll get to the see the base models?

Ferrer

04-04-2007, 01:07 AM

Anyone know when we'll get to the see the base models?
You can see them here (http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32027).

Blitz_

04-04-2007, 03:48 AM

They've stolen a Mazda 3 and rammed it into a few walls, given a 5yr old a bulldozer to play with, swallowed it and crapped it out, this is the end product. I give you the new Subaru Impreza.
Richard Burns will be turning in his grave RIP

The lucky individuals with the sleek black RB rexes will be laughing, I'll put a fiver that their value will increase..

Spastik_Roach

04-05-2007, 03:33 PM

OH MY DEAR GOD!

the sedan looks like a suzuki liana crossed with a new 3 series. look.

http://www.coconutcarrentals.com/images/liana-sedanbig.jpg

http://news.bmwboard.com/news/images/2005/3series_0009.jpg

honestly Subaru, what in gods name were you smoking when you designed that pile of shit!

heres a site about it. http://www.autotrader.co.nz/car-review/2472516.aspx

scottie300z

04-06-2007, 08:24 AM

they should of just took the propeller nose of the last one and let it be.

TVR IS KING

04-12-2007, 02:57 AM

Back of the sedan:

http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/2007/Q2/040220071519399294.jpg
Saw that pic just now, which is why I'm here. It looks like a Huyandai! South Korean! And that's the WRX...

Falcon500

05-06-2007, 01:28 AM

I can think of an aweful lot of people who'll kill you for saying that, lol:p
old i know but funny you mentioned that according to a magazine i read today the designer (some greek guy) was ex alfa and he went back there in 06 and apprently they have been working on this body style since 04?

Falcon500

05-06-2007, 01:52 AM

Awww come on you guys are overeacting itsw the current trend in all auto motive desings to err towards conservative designs better off being innofensive rather then agressive and off putting to the mainstream.

While not the best looking vehicle I was thinking of buying a new subaru and id defintly own one (especially if it mainatians its udner au 40k price tag). The car has gone bland to try and to appeal to more of the market but i do agree there is a large number of changes on the car i dont like eg wagon only (excluding american market who will get the sedan) and haveing an actoual frame around the window is werid for subaru its a feature i like on my liberty.

Also they are getting a new rear suspension a twin wish bone set up this time and apprently they have removed the front sub frame (apprently an improvment but i some how doubt it) and also according to the info i got the new wrx is getting the quicker stearing ratio of the current sti also its going to start of life with a 5 speed man or 4 speed auto (still)

And in other bad new its going to be some 23 kilos heavier then a current wagon wrx also all the engine are getting minor changes and most are seeing similar peak torque and hp figures at lower rpms.

Is the wrx a winner probably not is the base model a winner could be cheap conservative and copying alot of currently succsesfull cars well have to wait and see on this one.

Ferrer

05-06-2007, 04:42 AM

old i know but funny you mentioned that according to a magazine i read today the designer (some greek guy) was ex alfa and he went back there in 06 and apprently they have been working on this body style since 04?
Andreas Zapatinas.

Falcon500

05-06-2007, 06:27 AM

Andreas Zapatinas.
if that isnt a greek name i dont know what is :)

He did mention he didnt deign the grille he said subaru wanted to put the corprate face on it. I think a new grille could improve this car quite alot good thing the aftermarket jumps on these things quickly.

Ferrer

05-06-2007, 06:38 AM

He did mention he didnt deign the grille he said subaru wanted to put the corprate face on it. I think a new grille could improve this car quite alot good thing the aftermarket jumps on these things quickly.
One thing that disappointed me was the lack of pillarless doors.

Falcon500

05-06-2007, 08:38 AM

One thing that disappointed me was the lack of pillarless doors.
yeah I mentioned that earlier and its a triat i really liked about my libery :( its a shame to see it go but it reduces alot of wind noise that develops over the years (mines a 97 and traveling fast gets pretty noisy even with all the windows up) and its apprently more ridgid and safer.

These facts better ring true other wise im not going to be a happy camper;)

derekthetree

05-06-2007, 10:48 AM

who thinks this doesn't look so bad now... (i thought it looked OK in the first place :) )

http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2005/11/30/30subIm_leadimage.jpg

Waugh-terfall

05-06-2007, 11:18 AM

Hampshire Police FTW!

Ferrer

05-06-2007, 11:24 AM

Derek, I'm sorry but that still looks like a dog turd... ;)

derekthetree

05-06-2007, 01:02 PM

Derek, I'm sorry but that still looks like a dog turd... ;)

some talented dogs they have there in barcelona :p

DesmoRob

05-06-2007, 02:26 PM

I wish they'd go back to two doors.

LandQuail

05-06-2007, 11:11 PM

Some of the chops I've seen point to the next-gen STi having the same sense of blunt purpose as the Renault Clio V6. If they can go in that direction, they can't go wrong.

The chops showing a Focus WRC-style wing poking out of the rear hatch along with a rooftop spoiler are clearly the product of someone without even a schoolboy's understanding of aerodymamics.

Falcon500

05-07-2007, 12:10 AM

who thinks this doesn't look so bad now... (i thought it looked OK in the first place :) )

http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2005/11/30/30subIm_leadimage.jpg
I didnt think it looked that bad in the first place frist WRX i drove was a bug eyes model it wasnt so ugly when I was buzzing around in it :cool:

JRodrigues

05-07-2007, 10:49 AM

And in other bad new its going to be some 23 kilos heavier then a current wagon wrx also all the engine are getting minor changes and most are seeing similar peak torque and hp figures at lower rpms.

The official info is that it is lighter than previous model.

Falcon500

05-08-2007, 05:14 AM

The official info is that it is lighter than previous model.
Do a bit of scratching at the time of my writing this the quoted (wheels magazine may 07)weight was 1455kgs which they CLAIMED was 23 kgs lighter however the previous WAGON model weighed 1430 kgs.

:rolleyes: unless my infos wrong or they fudged their own weight figures its heavier.

Waugh-terfall

05-09-2007, 09:23 AM

I loved the bugeyed model, I have a remote controlled one, my food tech teacher drove a WRX-STI version but then they brought out the next and I fell in love with them again, Mr. Sang at school has one, STI. THEN, They brought the propeller nosed versions which, guess what. I love, but, I'm impartial to the MY05 and Propeller nose. I'd love an MY05 STI sedan, but I think I'd prefer a WRX Wagon in propeller nose...
I just can't understand why people find the Bugeye and Propeller nose so ugly.

Ferrer

05-09-2007, 02:50 PM

I just can't understand why people find the Bugeye and Propeller nose so ugly.
Because they just damn are, and you are one of the most tasteless people I have ever come across. Go and do some research about proper cars.

IWantAnAudiRS6

05-09-2007, 02:56 PM

Post of the year. I'm sorry, but that did really make me laugh! I have to say Tom, your answer is actually in your statement.

The_Canuck

05-09-2007, 03:24 PM

I agree. However I also think Ferrer is narrowminded in his taste :p

NSXType-R

05-09-2007, 03:59 PM

Because they just damn are, and you are one of the most tasteless people I have ever come across. Go and do some research about proper cars.

You know that it is only his opinion right? :D

NSXType-R

05-09-2007, 04:00 PM

I agree. However I also think Ferrer is narrowminded in his taste :p

Yeah, I agree with you too.

Not everyone likes all Italian cars from the 70's. ;)

Ferrer

05-09-2007, 11:02 PM

Yeah, I agree with you too.

Not everyone likes all Italian cars from the 70's. ;)
I also like italian cars from the 60's... :rolleyes:

:D

IWantAnAudiRS6

05-09-2007, 11:52 PM

I agree. However I also think Ferrer is narrowminded in his taste :p

There is a difference between being narrow-minded in taste and having taste.

Chelo_Spectra

05-10-2007, 04:49 AM

This new design makes me think more in the new Evo X than this Impreza... i love it as a Sedan but this hatchback look make it a lil bit commercial :S

The Evo X looks more modifiable and agressive than this new STi

im dissapointed... im a STi Fan but i think this year i'll be an Evo fan... :D

Waugh-terfall

05-10-2007, 10:07 AM

Oooh, look what I found..:D

My bedroom door...
My RC Car...

NSXType-R

05-10-2007, 04:44 PM

Is that a 1/10 scale Tamiya model?

cmcpokey

05-10-2007, 06:07 PM

Oooh, look what I found..:D

My bedroom door...
My RC Car...

the stack of minis is awesome. and the fact that you have the dark silver on top is even better.

Ferrer

05-10-2007, 11:49 PM

the stack of minis is awesome. and the fact that you have the dark silver on top is even better.
If there's no BRG it's useless... ;)

IWantAnAudiRS6

05-10-2007, 11:55 PM

If there's no BRG it's useless... ;)

Now, you're just jealous! :D

Ferrer

05-11-2007, 12:17 AM

Now, you're just jealous! :D
Oh no... you have discovered me... :rolleyes:

Waugh-terfall

05-11-2007, 07:33 AM

The top two Mini's are my favourite colours.
and no, It's a Nikko RC Car.
I did have a Mini GP and JCW Edition but my little cousin ripped them hence theres noting lower than the handle...

adamfraser

05-12-2007, 05:17 PM

I think the Bugeye is nice. Especially on the Uk300.

Still think the nicest Impreza is the RB320... bloody lovely car.

(That RB320 is a picture taken at Knockhill, of a car we sold at the Dealership.)

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=243273&d=1179015461

Falcon500

05-12-2007, 08:22 PM

I personally dont dislike the styleing of any of the wrxs some could of been better but they have always been a fine performing car and I never truely though them as ugly (well not ugly enough to avoid completly)

LandQuail

05-13-2007, 12:46 AM

I've found no reason to trade my angry-looking 2004 STi for a new one. They just smack of the increasing, newfangled trend towards the 'shit! It's been two years and sales aren't meeting expectations! FACELIFT!' school of automotive design.

The Peter Stevens-penned facelift for 2004 with the subtle hint of Ferrari 166 mustache remains a high point, ITQHO, in Subaru design (see attached pictures. The dirty black one is mine, and that's me making the stupid face).

Falcon500

05-13-2007, 01:44 AM

Your a more patient man then am id never own a black car....far to lazy. And I disagree I think the current models better looking imo :) still a great looking car.

LandQuail

05-13-2007, 02:08 AM

STis look better dirty.

Falcon500

05-13-2007, 02:11 AM

STis look better dirty.

Lol then black perfect for it then its near impossible to keep clean ;)

PerfAdv

05-17-2007, 06:10 PM

Ugly? Yes, imo it's part of Subaru's plan to make these little hooligans a little less immediately recognizable. Having replaced the Civic as the most ticketable import, this new generic looking profile will help the new scooby blend... then again, maybe they just screwed up.

Luxurioux

05-18-2007, 02:04 AM

Its losing the Subaru'ish look. http://www.performance-car.co.nz/img/chop_comp_big.jpg << I thought its a Mazda at the first glance.

KFA-R

05-28-2007, 12:12 AM

not sure if you have seen this but what the heck...... this is the front cover off my favourite mag...... this is what they think the my2008 STi will look like

it is a shame still but it better than the standard REX

(sorry about the quality of the pic but i have had a bit of trouble with it and thats th best i can do)

Falcon500

05-29-2007, 05:01 AM

i wouldent take anything either motor or wheels says seriously. This is just my opion but i think they are both some of the worst motoring publications avialable on our market.

KFA-R

05-30-2007, 12:37 AM

i wouldent take anything either motor or wheels says seriously. This is just my opion but i think they are both some of the worst motoring publications avialable on our market.

hmmmm.....not all that bad i dont think...... at least they aussie and kind of home grown........ as i said their oppinon of what it could be like...... just putting ideas out there:rolleyes:

Falcon500

05-30-2007, 02:28 AM

hmmmm.....not all that bad i didnt think...... at least they aussie and kind of home grown........ as i said their oppinon of what it could be like...... just putting ideas out there:rolleyes:

Their stats are worth while and so is the news but they winge and moan about the most mundane things like falcons rear seat apparently being small? Ive been in plenty the rear seats are not small.

I just don't think their opinons are valid most of the time their a motoring mag that reviews cars they are supposed to bitch but i don't care if the cup holders wont hold a McDonald's cup i can figure that pout myself i want to know how it handles and how much its costs as opposed to paragraphs writing about useless crap. thats all :)

KFA-R

05-30-2007, 02:52 AM

Their stats are worth while and so is the news but they winge and moan about the most mundane things like falcons rear seat apparently being small? Ive been in plenty the rear seats are not small.

I just don't think their opinons are valid most of the time their a motoring mag that reviews cars they are supposed to bitch but i don't care if the cup holders wont hold a McDonald's cup i can figure that pout myself i want to know how it handles and how much its costs as opposed to paragraphs writing about useless crap. thats all :)

fair nuff.....i dont buy it lol......only this copy because i wanted to read about the R10 and the 908......i normally visit my local library!!!:D i cant imagine sudscribing to $8-$9 a month for somthing i can read free....... i see your point but..... bitching about something small like that

also the fact that they dont like the arial on the VE commedores because when you go over 220km/h (or whatever the rediculous amount was....cant remember sorry) it hits the back window!! its nice to know that happens but still i dont need half a page of it.....:p

Kazman50

05-30-2007, 06:47 AM

I was hoping Subaru would at least try to make the WRX radical looking but, looks do not really matter, Performance is the most important. Well for me at least. The battle between the EVO and the WRX as been one of my favourite battles in the whole Auto Industry. I can not wait to see them face each other. I favour the EVO.

Fritz

08-10-2007, 01:30 AM

here is some more pics of the car that Petter Solberg will unweil

http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2007/08/10/1186730676800_705.jpg

http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2007/08/10/1186730995867_507.jpg

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08-12-2007, 01:52 PM

I am really liking the new STI. :)

DesmoRob

08-14-2007, 06:15 AM

Subaru had such a nice thing going with what I thought was their established trademark grill.http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2005/10/18/18sub_leadimage.jpg

The first thing this new car reminded me of was something cheap, like a hyundai.

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08-16-2007, 01:30 AM

Yeah, I figured that Subaru would stick with the new trademark grille, but I guess they think a lot of people thought it was copying off of Alfa Romeo or not very well liked?

Ferrer

08-16-2007, 07:17 AM

Yeah, I figured that Subaru would stick with the new trademark grille, but I guess they think a lot of people thought it was copying off of Alfa Romeo or not very well liked?
The problem is, people saw the Tribeca and were scared off Subaru's showrooms...

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08-17-2007, 03:51 AM

The problem is, people saw the Tribeca and were scared off Subaru's showrooms...

That's really too bad because that vehicle was supposed to generate a lot more sales, wasn't it?

IBrake4Rainbows

08-17-2007, 03:54 AM

yeah. the problem is that it looked like over-sculpted ass.

The best design, IMHO, is simple shapes, done beautifully.

it just looked garish. if you look at the facelift model of the Tribeca they've normaled it up.

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08-17-2007, 04:20 AM

Also, who's genius idea was it to leave the B9 in before Tribeca in the first place? I'm glad they finally changed it to just Tribeca.

NSXType-R

08-17-2007, 09:50 AM

Will the new STI be hatchback only? :confused:

Fritz

09-02-2007, 01:30 AM

Just thought i show som pic's of the new Impreza, the driver is Petter Solberg of the WRC Subaru team, he has gotten it delivered.

http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2007/08/31/1188571661780_542.gif

http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2007/08/31/1188571875013_536.gif

http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2007/08/31/1188571966390_752.gif

http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2007/08/31/1188572059952_501.gif

And this is what the new WRX STI will look like:

http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2007/08/10/1186730676800_705.jpg

http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2007/08/10/1186730995867_507.jpg

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09-02-2007, 03:16 PM

Fritz, was it really necessary to post the same post in two different threads?

I'm going to say no.

fordman6

09-02-2007, 11:41 PM

Just thought i show som pic's of the new Impreza, the driver is Petter Solberg of the WRC Subaru team, he has gotten it delivered.

Looks the goods!

Fritz, was it really necessary to post the same post in two different threads?

I'm going to say no.

FRITZ! :mad: :p

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09-05-2007, 09:47 PM

I wonder if Petter is going to stay with the team though, I keep hearing rumors he might leave?

Ferrer

09-06-2007, 12:15 AM

I wonder if Petter is going to stay with the team though, I keep hearing rumors he might leave?
Well they seem to be a distant third to Ford a Citroen, so it isn't surprising that a top driver might consider switching teams.

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09-06-2007, 08:11 AM

What is up with the Japanese teams? Subaru is underperforming and Mitsubishi picked up and left and just recently announced they are done for good. :(

Ferrer

09-06-2007, 08:55 AM

What is up with the Japanese teams? Subaru is underperforming and Mitsubishi picked up and left and just recently announced they are done for good. :(
My uneducated guess is that probably Subaru's budget is significantly lower that tha of Citroen and lower than that of Ford.

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09-06-2007, 12:15 PM

Also, Sebastien Loeb is an incredible driver. I am willing to say the best Rally has ever seen and maybe ever will see.

Ferrer

09-06-2007, 12:35 PM

Also, Sebastien Loeb is an incredible driver. I am willing to say the best Rally has ever seen and maybe ever will see.
With virtually no opposition on rallyes that last for about 10 minutes which let you restart if you crash into a tree?

Maybe...

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09-06-2007, 06:25 PM

He's an excellent driver still. I'm not sure of the incident you're talking about (barely get to watch WRC anymore since Speed decided to be lame).

kigango123

09-06-2007, 06:27 PM

doesnt look that nice, but the boxer still lives,
can it compete with double clutch sequential though

Ferrer

09-06-2007, 11:53 PM

He's an excellent driver still. I'm not sure of the incident you're talking about (barely get to watch WRC anymore since Speed decided to be lame).
It was an exageration for the shortening of rallies that has taken over the years and the stupid superally system (which I don't know if they use anymore). He is a good driver, but then it's difficult to compare to the all time greats like Vatanen, Kankkunen, Sainz, Blomqvist, Mikkola, Rohrl and the likes when the conditions are so different.